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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: humble on August 17, 2009, 07:44:39 AM
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But this one happened to get my attention....
I bought one of the new E6300 dual Pentium to replace my 6600 while its being RMA'd. Basically it was a what to you have thats cheap and decent type of thing. My thoughts (then and now) are to pass it on once I get the replacement from intel (whatever that might be). While it has a pretty cheesy CPU fan/heatsink the chip seems very nice. Popped it in and it fired right up on the old bios (do need to flash it still) and runs AH maxed out across the board + max AA pegged at 60FPS (max refresh on my LCD)....was browsing the net to find out more since its a pretty new release....'
(http://bbs.hwtest.cn/attachments/ext_jpg/09052416083015c79783bcc44a.jpg)
Sure got my attention. Think this is a very interesting possibility for a budget gaming rig....
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LN2 cooling is hardly budget.. :)
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Obviously not, but it certainly seems to be a very "OCable" CPU
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Never underestimate those low end Intel CPU's. I have an E5200 running at 3.2GHz, and it has been running that speed for over a year now.
My work computer has an E6300 in it running at 3.2GHz as well.
There is a lot of free performance in those low end Intel Core 2 CPU's.
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I have an E6850 that has been running at 3.6ghz on stock cooling for over a year now.. Although I've read of others reaching that magic 4.0ghz number quite often on the same processor..
While minutely out-dated, it still holds it's own among many of the top-end C2D's and even Q2Q's...
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I don't have the testicular fortitude or deep pockets to play with my cpu like that...maybe one day. :confused:
For me oc'ing a system is akin to riding a motorcycle...speed kills...too much speed kills faster...and when you lose respect for the hardware, something is going to die.
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Intel CPU's are pretty safe to overclock, as long as you do it in small steps. They will let you know when you are getting to close to the limits. As long as you have a good heat sink/fan combination and do not alter the voltage, it is very difficult to hurt them, even over the long haul.
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It's worth noting that the E6300 Wolfdale core clocks in at 2.8ghz and is a newer architechure. It's often confused with the E6300 Allendale/Conroe core, which is about 3 years old now and clocks at 1.86ghz. So you're old E6300 isn't really that old since its a Wolfdale.
My E6400 Conroe (stock 2.13ghz) was fairly easy to OC up to 3.2ghz with an aftermarket HSF. I had it at 2.66ghz with the stock HSF for about a year.
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Yes the 6300 is a great overclocker.... as well as the 5200........ Ive been recommending the 5200 to people trying to upgrade for the new AH version.......... even though its a 2.5 core... many people have OC as high as 4.1 with it......most like to hang around 3.8 on air and low voltage
and for the price of the 5200 which is around $60 its pretty hard to beat
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Never underestimate those low end Intel CPU's. I have an E5200 running at 3.2GHz, and it has been running that speed for over a year now.
My work computer has an E6300 in it running at 3.2GHz as well.
There is a lot of free performance in those low end Intel Core 2 CPU's.
I second it. I have an e5200 @ 3.8 with a 25 dollar Freezer 7 cooler. Hard to beat on a budget.
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humble, how does that compare to my AMD Athlon 64 bit dual core 4000+ 2.10ghz? If I can find one of those for cheap I'd get it...just a wonder if my mobo will support it and my crappy psu would run it...
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You can't run an intel chip on AMD architecture...
Athlons have been made in so many socket types I can't ever keep them straight...do you know what socket your MB is?
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I am good with computers but not their parts hehe.
My mobo is an MSI K9VGM-V if that helps...
It sas socket AM2
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I am good with computers but not their parts hehe.
My mobo is an MSI K9VGM-V if that helps...
It sas socket AM2
the AM2 sockets are become hard to come by Spikes, you be lucky to even find you an AMD athlon64 6000 x2 dual core cpu
newegg is only listing 3 of them with 2 of them out of stock at this time see link below:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010340343%201050717007&name=Athlon%2064%20X2
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most players here will advise you to go the Intel route, with the current Intel chips running cooler and pulling less power currently.....
although for those of us stuck with AMD ( AM2/AM2+ Motherboards......the AM2 version of the Athlon64 6000+ x2 dual core processor comes in at a stock 3.0 ghz and some people have been able to OC them with some success.....
I have had a few here throw my AMD athlon64 6400+ 3.2gig dual core CPU under the bus.......but then again I have had no problems with Aces High and the CPU performs without fault as far as I am concerned and all my game settings.video resolution have been maxed out using the hires 1024 texture pack , using the 1024 tetures & 1280 x 1024 screen rez
in Windows XP Pro SP3 my frame rate is pegged to my Dell Monitor max refresh rate of 70 hz.........while in windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit OS, I gain an additional 5 hz ( total max is 75 mhz frame rate with the currnet ati 9.7 cat display drivers for my EAH3870 *TOP ( factory over clocked ) ASUS 512meg DDR4 Pci-E videocard.....
most ( and its true ) say this CPU uses more power, and even say it runs HOT...but my Antec 900 case with (3) 120 mm fans, (1) 240/250 mm fan on top, and (1) side panel fan of 220mm seem to keep everything nice and cool, keeping the full load temps under 40/39 degrees C and idles around 23 +/- degrees C...... btw....cheese cloth is your friend when wanting to put a prefilter over the fan inlets to keep dust to a minimal out of the PC case and fans/heatsinks...
I have played around with my particular CPU and OC'ed it using the factory heatsink & fan ( which is actually made by Foxconn for the Black Edition retail version of this CPU ) and had it stable for roughly 3 to 4 hrs at 3.8+ ghz...before saying to myself, that was all I needed to see and turned back down to factory settings.... a handful of people have pushed the same processor I have above 4.1 ghz OC'ing it.... but I personally have never got into the OC'ing habit because for me, my lil old " 3.2 gig dual core " cpu has been nothing but fantastic for myself.....YMMV........some like Intel while some like AMD......same goes for Nividia vs ATI owners......my factory OC'ed 3870 has been seriously ramped up near 1280 on the memory and 1025 IIRC, on the clock speed without crashing, before I turned it back to factory settings and removing the Overdrive and CCC / Ati Tray Tools....
got a CPU-Z printout & picture somewhere among the 3 hard drives and 4 OS's I have booted up on it...... I have used and prefer Hitachi SATA II Hd's for a goodlong while after having a (1) WD HD fail on me, (1) Maxtor HD fail and (2) Seagate HD's fail....of course all of them were inthe past and were the IDE type....... love these Hitachis because they are all hot swappable.....
I use 4 gigs of Corsair XMS2 DDR3 800mhz ( either pro or extreme HP ( best recollection without searching for the details ) gaming memory running is dual Channel mode )
I been having serious thoughts, whether I want to build me a new Intel dual or quad core PC come next tax season...... or if I want to build another AMD system.....will research and figure out what is best for my budget when that time comes.....
sorry for the long post.....just happy with my setup, and I take it down and clean it out thoroughly about every 3 to 4 months.......since I bult it last July of last year..
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To Spikes,
here is alink to what your MB will support, and if you upgrade your CPU you may have to ubgrade your bios.
http://www.msicomputer.com/index.php?func=prodcpusupport&maincat_no=1&prod_no=260#
if this does not work goto manufacter websight look up your MB, look up CPU.
Tim O/ Cattb
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It's worth noting that the E6300 Wolfdale core clocks in at 2.8ghz and is a newer architechure. It's often confused with the E6300 Allendale/Conroe core, which is about 3 years old now and clocks at 1.86ghz. So you're old E6300 isn't really that old since its a Wolfdale.
My E6400 Conroe (stock 2.13ghz) was fairly easy to OC up to 3.2ghz with an aftermarket HSF. I had it at 2.66ghz with the stock HSF for about a year.
Actually I have the old Allendale. I should have clarified that.
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I haven't messed with overclocking for a while. I have my e8500 set at 3.5 ghz and it's been running superbly even with that bogging ATI Control stuff. I stay pegged at 59 to 60 fps. In fact after the updates the system seems to be running smoother than ever.
However, I am getting ready to move everything to a new tempest case, do some cable management, and may get back into it. Not sure though. While I am at it I may reset my HSF. If so then I will study up on my components, download Ray Adams Tool tray, and bump up my processor a hair.
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To Spikes,
here is alink to what your MB will support, and if you upgrade your CPU you may have to ubgrade your bios.
http://www.msicomputer.com/index.php?func=prodcpusupport&maincat_no=1&prod_no=260#
if this does not work goto manufacter websight look up your MB, look up CPU.
Tim O/ Cattb
Thanks for the link, ill have to check it out tomorroe.