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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Unit791 on August 17, 2009, 11:47:28 AM
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What is most likely gunna be the newest edition to AH? I Wish it was the JS-2.
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B-29 ofc.
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Yak 3!!!
(http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/yak-3m.jpg)
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Beaufighter of course :D
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I really hate to burst all of your guys' dreams but none of the planes listed will be added any time soon. The Consortium of 12 has met and given HTC the list of the next planes to be added in the upcoming year. HTC knowing that it is their best interest not to go against the wishes of the Grand Exhalted Leader and the almighty and powerful Consortium of 12 has given their enthusiastic approval.
Planes to be added.
1) P-38F
2) P-38H
3) P-38M
After these three planes have been added to the plane list, we informed HTC that no further planes will need to be added to the game since the inclusion of these three Lightnings will complete the plane set. In fact, with the other P-38s already in the game, with these three additions it will make all the other planes obsolete.
ack-ack
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I really hate to burst all of your guys' dreams but none of the planes listed will be added any time soon. The Consortium of 12 has met and given HTC the list of the next planes to be added in the upcoming year. HTC knowing that it is their best interest not to go against the wishes of the Grand Exhalted Leader and the almighty and powerful Consortium of 12 has given their enthusiastic approval.
Planes to be added.
1) P-38F
2) P-38H
3) P-38M
After these three planes have been added to the plane list, we informed HTC that no further planes will need to be added to the game since the inclusion of these three Lightnings will complete the plane set. In fact, with the other P-38s already in the game, with these three additions it will make all the other planes obsolete.
ack-ack
:rofl
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waystin is obsessed with that Yak.
I personally would like to see the Oscar and the Beau in game next.
Along with that....the Ki-61, Zeros, and Mossie updated.
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The Ki-43 and G4M are the two most glaring holes in the plane set, followed very closely by the He-111.
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waystin is obsessed with that Yak.
LOL, schedule an intervention if you must Buster. She is sexy tho! :D
:salute
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I'm glad its official, we need those 38s bad. Thanks akak.
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I'm glad its official, we need those 38s bad. Thanks akak.
Don't thank me, thank SAPP. After all, our motto is, "SAPP, doing things for you because you're not smart enough..."
ack-ack
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I really hate to burst all of your guys' dreams but none of the planes listed will be added any time soon. The Consortium of 12 has met and given HTC the list of the next planes to be added in the upcoming year. HTC knowing that it is their best interest not to go against the wishes of the Grand Exhalted Leader and the almighty and powerful Consortium of 12 has given their enthusiastic approval.
Planes to be added.
1) P-38F
2) P-38H
3) P-38M
After these three planes have been added to the plane list, we informed HTC that no further planes will need to be added to the game since the inclusion of these three Lightnings will complete the plane set. In fact, with the other P-38s already in the game, with these three additions it will make all the other planes obsolete.
ack-ack
You forgot to add that they were going to take away all the P-51s, so even those masochists who choose to fly an inferior plane will have to settle for the P-40.
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You forgot to add that they were going to take away all the P-51s, so even those masochists who choose to fly an inferior plane will have to settle for the P-40.
We decided to not remove the P-51 or any other plane from the planeset for a couple of very good reasons. 1) By removing the 'inferior' planes, we rid things to shoot down in our Lightnings and 2) to remind others while they fly their inferior planes that they just aren't 'cool' enough to fly P-38s.
ack-ack
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Although I would love to see the Beaufighter :aok Going to have to say the He111 is next.
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I really hate to burst all of your guys' dreams but none of the planes listed will be added any time soon. The Consortium of 12 has met and given HTC the list of the next planes to be added in the upcoming year. HTC knowing that it is their best interest not to go against the wishes of the Grand Exhalted Leader and the almighty and powerful Consortium of 12 has given their enthusiastic approval.
Planes to be added.
1) P-38F
2) P-38H
3) P-38M
After these three planes have been added to the plane list, we informed HTC that no further planes will need to be added to the game since the inclusion of these three Lightnings will complete the plane set. In fact, with the other P-38s already in the game, with these three additions it will make all the other planes obsolete.
ack-ack
I am calling a move to pull your SAPP license.
Any self respecting P-38 pilot would include the ultra rare, ultra uber P-38K-1-LO (perked of course) in that list.
Shame on you!!!
:furious
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/P-61C-1NO_43-8353.jpg)
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(http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/BeaufighterX_cartoon.gif)
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Is that a Team Rocket reject with a light saber? Ewww
Called HTC Tuesday to check on reinstating my account and was told
by a source who insists I do not being reveal thier name that the next
update will only include the O1 "Bird dog" in wheeled and pontoon
versions. It's purpose is to give the wish list denizens who can't figure
out the very basics of air combat or who find milk runs just a bit too
cerebral to figure out something to do.
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5PointOh, there is absolutley no need for a night fighter in AH 2 considering oh I don't know, IT NEVER GETTS REALLY DARK. fool
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Last night's snapshot was at night.
5PointOh, there is absolutley no need for a night fighter in AH 2 considering oh I don't know, IT NEVER GETTS REALLY DARK. fool
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He 111 and Ki-43.
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He 111 and Ki-43.
Toss in the G4M and you eliminate the biggest gaps in the plane set.
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I am calling a move to pull your SAPP license.
Any self respecting P-38 pilot would include the ultra rare, ultra uber P-38K-1-LO (perked of course) in that list.
:furious
Ultra rare in that one prototype was produced.....
wrongway
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Ultra rare in that one prototype was produced.....
wrongway
So rare that no known photos exist of the official scratch built prototype, only the highly modified P-38E.
Sad really....
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Something for the Russian or Japanese planeset. Otherwise, the Me 410A and B.
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5PointOh, there is absolutley no need for a night fighter in AH 2 considering oh I don't know, IT NEVER GETTS REALLY DARK. fool
Fool, the P-61 did fly combat missions during the day, add the fact it gets semi dark in AH or else the moon and stars would not come out. FOOL.
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As a matter of fact in some theaters at various points of the war it only did day light missions bombing & rocket attacks as there was nothing left to shoot at night time.
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HE-111 is essential. :aok
Beaufighter would be nice as a followup.
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Easy question, whats next? There is only one!!!
THIS ONE!!!
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/04310_JPG_l.jpg)
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(http://www.kitcutters.com/Nex/NexME410.jpg)
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Fool, the P-61 did fly combat missions during the day, add the fact it gets semi dark in AH or else the moon and stars would not come out. FOOL.
Fool, what good would a night-fighter bring into play?
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Fool, what good would a night-fighter bring into play?
In AH? Since the radar systems they used wouldn't be modeled and we don't have true night in AH, all they would bring is, in some cases, a variant of an existing plane but with cannons (F6F-5N is an example, it would have 20mm cannons).
However, in real life they brought a lot to the table. They were able to use their radar to search for surface targets. Night fighters were also typically more heavily gunned than regular fighters and carried cannons (at least for the United States). Often, night fighters would lead day light raids, aquire the target on their radar and lead the attack for the regular fighters.
(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g300000/g305244.jpg)
The above picture is a flight of Hellcats preparing to take off the Ticonderoga to hit targets in Manila Bay (Jan. 9, 1945). As you can see, the two lead planes are F6F-5Ns, the night fighter variant of the Hellcat. They would typically lead such flights as they could use their radar to aquire targets.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2171/2479096948_d67223150f.jpg?v=0)
Here is a flight of P-61C Blackwidows on a day time mission in the PTO. By this time, the Blackwidow didn't have any targets to intercept at night and were used in daylight interdiction missions.
ack-ack
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They were able to use their radar to search for surface targets. Night fighters were also typically more heavily gunned than regular fighters and carried cannons (at least for the United States). Often, night fighters would lead day light raids, aquire the target on their radar and lead the attack for the regular fighters.
ack-ack
Owned.
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Didn't the p61 carry 4 50s and 4 20mm?
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historical tactics and cool pics etc...
interesting, like having a Hawkeye along for the sortie.
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I am calling a move to pull your SAPP license.
Any self respecting P-38 pilot would include the ultra rare, ultra uber P-38K-1-LO (perked of course) in that list.
Shame on you!!!
:furious
What are you talking about? The K is already in game, just type .plane 92
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Would love to see the A6M get updated.
What will happen, who knows. Something else with 4x 20mm?
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Fool, what good would a night-fighter bring into play?
Really, is the fact that it was a night-fighter your only arguement? Please tell you me you have something more? I'm guessing you don't. So what good would a P-61 be in AH. For the "land grabbing guys" the armament and payload would be great for town killing, hanger busting, and deacking. For the furballers the described handling and armament may also allow it to be a nice choice.
Here's just a quick little comparison between other twin engines in AH (and the A-26B)
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z235/nathanyoung1980/Cpm.jpg)
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Really, is the fact that it was a night-fighter your only arguement? Please tell you me you have something more? I'm guessing you don't. So what good would a P-61 be in AH. For the "land grabbing guys" the armament and payload would be great for town killing, hanger busting, and deacking. For the furballers the described handling and armament may also allow it to be a nice choice.
Here's just a quick little comparison between other twin engines in AH (and the A-26B)
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z235/nathanyoung1980/Cpm.jpg)
OK, but you do realise this aircraft was purpose-built for night-fighting, adding a night-fighter to AH2 would be quite radical indeed. When, you add it, you say "OK, yeah well it did do daytime operations", however true this may be, it was PURPOSE BUILT for night fighting, and if you can't use it as a night fighter, there is no point in adding it.
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Since the addition of the 38E, F and H is already locked in, I would suggest the Ki-43, Beaufighter and Me 410 so the Beaufighter guys have something to shoot at :)
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OK, but you do realise this aircraft was purpose-built for night-fighting, adding a night-fighter to AH2 would be quite radical indeed. When, you add it, you say "OK, yeah well it did do daytime operations", however true this may be, it was PURPOSE BUILT for night fighting, and if you can't use it as a night fighter, there is no point in adding it.
Again with the "night fighter". Yes I know the original design of the P-61 series was for a night fighting role, And actually it does get dark in AH, the moon and stars come out. Is it pitch black. No, and thats the result of to many complaints from players. I guess you only want planes and tanks you want, vs hearing what others may like to have in AH.
So ALL of the AH planes do the exact role the were designed for in the second world war?
This is your original post:
What is most likely gunna be the newest edition to AH? I Wish it was the JS-2.
OK, you asked a question, followed by a wish. Yet you offer no supporting facts or statements to go with your wish.
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if you can't use it as a night fighter, there is no point in adding it.
why cant you use it as a night fighter? Ive flown Mossies as nightfighters in AH. Its not all about the LW MA you know...
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Again with the "night fighter". Yes I know the original design of the P-61 series was for a night fighting role, And actually it does get dark in AH, the moon and stars come out. Is it pitch black. No, and thats the result of to many complaints from players. I guess you only want planes and tanks you want, vs hearing what others may like to have in AH.
So ALL of the AH planes do the exact role the were designed for in the second world war?
This is your original post: OK, you asked a question, followed by a wish. Yet you offer no supporting facts or statements to go with your wish.
I love to hear what they say, so long as it reasonable, which is why I disagree with you. Not dark enough to use a night fighter. Supporting reasons to have a JS-2:
1. Few tanks in AH2 can challenge a Tiger head on, they must try to literally swing around it and hit from behind. The JS-2 would eclearly not have to.
2. It would be the ultimate ambush weapon :)
3. Base camping would be...quicker.
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why cant you use it as a night fighter? Ive flown Mossies as nightfighters in AH. Its not all about the LW MA you know...
Becaue for it to BE a night fighter, its gotta be, uh DARK, like realistic dark. I know I know, theres stars, theres the moon, but when I look up at the night sky, it just does not look that way in AH2.
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Unit791 the real difference would be radar, as night fighters had, and as all fighters have in the game. The real critical thing will be whether the night fighting equipment kills a given model's chances to be any fun in the game, or wether a given night fighter model flew often enough without significant handicaps like radar antennas or radar domes e.g. during day light ops, and if not, whether it could be fun/competitive (i.e. worthwhile) with them.
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Not dark enough to use a night fighter.
you've never flown at night in AH have you? trust me its pretty dam dark.
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1. Few tanks in AH2 can challenge a Tiger head on, they must try to literally swing around it and hit from behind. The JS-2 would eclearly not have to.
Its obvious you didn't fly in Dawn of Battle. Sherman Firefly is more than capable against the Tiger.
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SUBZ!!!!111!1!!
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7941/bearsonasubmarineviamoofc3.jpg)
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I love to hear what they say, so long as it reasonable, which is why I disagree with you. Not dark enough to use a night fighter. Supporting reasons to have a JS-2:
1. Few tanks in AH2 can challenge a Tiger head on, they must try to literally swing around it and hit from behind. The JS-2 would eclearly not have to.
I guess you haven't taken a Firefly up against a Tiger? Even in a lesser GV, tactics always win. The Tigers slower reload and turret speed make an easy kill for the much faster T-34s and Panzers
2. It would be the ultimate ambush weapon :)
how often do you ambush? From your stats, this tour you've only killed in gvs twice, one ostie and one kill in the T-34/85.
3. Base camping would be...quicker.
Base camping, quicker?
How is a request for a P-61 unreasonable? Because its not pitch black in the MA? What about scenarios, snapshots? Does everything have to be attributed to the MA?
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Hands these two fine gentelmen there purses. . . . .
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P-51C
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"...you've never flown at night in AH have you? trust me its pretty dam dark."
and everyone has awacs radar and the night sky filled with nice, bright icons
scream "yoo hoo, here I am!" Icons for you, icons for everyone.
Want a night fighter? Take up an A-20 or, as was noted already, the Mossie.
They were used as night fighter in WWII. Perhaps try out a P-38"M" by going
up with a ctr line bomb on it or F6F with a wing bomb hanging (imo the bombs
would mimic the weight and drag of the radar equip) and see how you do in
an AH arena - even at "night."
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P-51C
We have the C model 51 already.
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We have the C model 51 already.
The B and C model are identical, except the B was built Inglewood, California and the C in Dallas, Texas.
Good bait...
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We have the C model 51 already.
Naww really I didnt know that. :rolleyes:
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The reason I barely ambush, or use GVs a lot for that matter is because we lack the JS-2.
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How is a request for a P-61 unreasonable? Because its not pitch black in the MA? What about scenarios, snapshots? Does everything have to be attributed to the MA?
Never heard of a plane being made strictly for weekly scenarios.
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Never heard of a plane being made strictly for weekly scenarios.
No plane is ever made JUST for the scenarios and FSO. And guaranteed on virtue of sheer firepower alone the P-61 will see usage on the Mains. The B-25H on paper is a hangar queen. She's slow, has poor rate of climb and altitude performance, not very maneuverable, only about average in defensive fire coverage, near the bottom of the multi-engine bomber pile when it comes to ordinance loadout. If you look at the balance of her stats, this is a plane that would gain very little use in the Mains and would seem relegated to scenario play.
And yet the B-25H has developed a VERY loyal following and sees a healthy amount of usage. Why? Because she packs one MASSIVE gun. The 75mm makes the B-25H one of the premier close air support aircraft in the game, second to only the 37mm on the Il-2. She can de-ack a field without subjecting herself to return fire--and if you're REALLY good with it you can do the same with Wirbleweasle turrets--and single-ping tanks if you know where to aim.
The P-61 may not have that much firepower, but you still have a LETHAL cone of fire from the 4 20mm and 4 .50cal. This would make her a strafer at LEAST on par with the 110G-2 for town busting, if not outright superior. Certainly, the G-2 will only surpass that strafing capability with the 4x20mm and 2x30mm package, but she sacrifices much of her ordinance to do so (with the full gun package she can only carry 400lbs of ordinance. Taking the two 1000lb bombs eliminates one pair of 20mm). The P-61 carries nearly TRIPLE that, without sacrificing her gun package. Then of course factor in that these are HISPANOS.
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You could sub He 219 for P-61 in that argument, Saxman.
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Never heard of a plane being made strictly for weekly scenarios.
P-39, B-25C? Filled holes in the planeset for events, hangar queens in the MAs. He111 and Do17 would be the same.
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What is most likely gunna be the newest edition to AH? I Wish it was the JS-2.
Since the OP didnt specify AIR or GROUND units... I would like to offer up a couple of GV options:
- A number of the M3 Variants fitted out as motorized gun, mortar, or howitzer carriages. (T12/M3 75 mm GMC, T30 75 mm HMC, T19/M21 81 mm MMC and others). While it is true that they dont have any real measurable defensive armor, they provide a heavy firepower to the battlefield in a hurry, and would also be capable of supporting the main armored units.
- The M3 Lee/Grant Medium Tank Series. Yeah, its ugly. Its got an awkward gun configuration. Yes, its slow... but it WOULD be a great addition to the EW tank set. Not to mention, it gives you the 37mm gun and the 75mm gun in the same platform.
Neither of these series of GV's would stand up to the Tigers and other LW killers toe to toe... but it would provide more variety across the board.
And for the LW folks... the M18 Hellcat would be a nice option. 60 mph, 76mm gun... it would also be a great add.
Now I know these are all US vehicles. There are several other GV's, from other nations that could just as easily fit into these roles as well. My point is... I think we have enough aircraft for the moment. Let's get more variety in the ground war.
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My point is... I think we have enough aircraft for the moment.
Yeah. We're only missing two of the most important Japanese aircraft of the war, anyway. What do we really need THEM for?
:rolleyes:
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Yeah. We're only missing two of the most important Japanese aircraft of the war, anyway. What do we really need THEM for?
:rolleyes:
Never said we dont NEED them... just would be nice to get some GV's first.
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(http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/VVS1/I-153-1.jpg)
I-153: You can't run a proper Eastern front event from '41 through '43 without it.
After that, the CR.42:
(http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2007/02/images/cr42_general_01.jpg)
Just to make all the late-war-only people cry. :devil
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(http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/VVS1/I-153-1.jpg)
I-153: You can't run a proper Eastern front event from '41 through '43 without it.
After that, the CR.42:
(http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2007/02/images/cr42_general_01.jpg)
Just to make all the late-war-only people cry. :devil
No Gladiators? Not even a single IAR 80? :frown:
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P-39, B-25C? Filled holes in the planeset for events, hangar queens in the MAs. He111 and Do17 would be the same.
Far more 39 flyers out there then you give them credit for. And I love the 25C when the FH's are down. all those 50s in the nose and no bomb load make it fun to try and fight in.
But yes they did fill holes for events too.