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Special Events Forums => Scenario General => Topic started by: Brooke on August 18, 2009, 01:52:27 AM
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It's time for folks to submit patch designs for Coral Sea 2009.
I know I'm late on Tunisia, but I'm starting the production process on that now. I'll get back on a more-timely basis with Coral Sea 2009.
For folks interested in what past designs looked like, they are here:
http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/patches/patchDesigns.html
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I'm thinking of taking the original idea and just changing it up a bit, like the difference between the BOB patches.
I'm thinking of a japanese CV, and inverting the 3-way split so the flags are at the bottom and the CV at the top. Minor color changes, etc, but sets it apart.
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http://www.aviationartstore.com/images/Zuikaku_profile.jpg
That might form a basis for an outline if you traced over it.
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Sweet! Thanks! :aok
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I'm thinking of taking the original idea and just changing it up a bit, like the difference between the BOB patches.
I'm thinking of a japanese CV, and inverting the 3-way split so the flags are at the bottom and the CV at the top. Minor color changes, etc, but sets it apart.
High Resolution Image Profiles IJN CV Shoho, Zuikaku, Shokaku suitable for non-commercial re-use:
Full listing of line drawings here from the source, including CA and DD: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Line_drawings_of_ships (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Line_drawings_of_ships)
Free user license here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Free_Documentation_License (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Free_Documentation_License)
(http://www.cadframers.com/ah/cs/images/Fig_of_IJN_CV_SHOHO_in_1942.gif)
(http://www.cadframers.com/ah/cs/images/Fig_of_IJN_CV_Zuikaku_in_1941.gif)
(http://www.cadframers.com/ah/cs/images/Fig_of_IJN_CV_Shokaku_in_1942.gif)
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Some might disagree but I would like the patch to have things that were actually in the game.
Without a doubt this game desperately needs a Japanese carrier to work in concert with these events tho.
Useless facts:
Shoho was originally laid down at the ship yard as a sub tender.
Both Shokaku and Zuikaku were from the same class as the Yamamoto.
Thought that was interesting....
Strip
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Both Shokaku and Zuikaku were from the same class as the Yamamoto.
Ahhh no, while the Admiral was big, he was not Aircraft Carrier sized. :rofl
You mean Yamato/Musashi, and they were not the same class as the two carriers. You are thinking of the Shinano.
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Ahh yes....I misread my book here.
The Shokaku and Zuikaku were from the same program as the Yamoto class battleship.
Upon farther reading both Ise and Hyūga were built on Yamoto class keels.
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Folks, I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on Tunisia patch production.
That means -- time to get a design for Coral Sea 2009 going.
What do you say? Anyone out there ready to post a suggested patch?
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Patch design? Anyone? Bueller?
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I've been busy... barely played AH 2x in 2 weeks... I still want to do something, but haven't done it.. Go figure.
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(http://www.51hangar.net/fencer/CSPatch.gif)
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That's a start. Can you make the right (RED) half of the circle into the Japanese Sunburst image?
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=Japanese+flag+sun&gbv=2
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:HTAhJLR9WZrQ8M:http://www.9thimperialmarines)
I can see it merged with the inner red circle on the left.
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Nope, those are air plane markings not flags.
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One thing to keep in mind is that we get 3" farthest point to farthest point. In making a patch design, you might want to scale it to see 3" on your screen, just to make sure it's looking how you want. For example, once you scale it like that, you can't get outlines on text, and vertical dimension of the above patch design would be perhaps 1".
With that in mind, you might want to increase vertical dimension, move the roundel down and increase its size.
I suppose we could go to 3.5", which would help some.
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I like it, by the way. Thanks, Fencer, for stepping up. :aok
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Nope, those are air plane markings not flags.
Was only a suggestion to make it more recognizable. Whatever. :huh
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Well I would then have to replace the left side with part of the American flag.. and having both "round" would look goofy. And again, they are not flags, they are the symbols which were on both side's aircraft during the battle.
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Fencer,
That is not a bad looking, out of the box design. I could live happily ever after with it as is, but I just know someone will bring more ideas to the table.
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I like Fencers... but the colors seems a tad off... anyone else think so?
IMO(s):
-The orange on the lettering seems a bit faded.
-The meatball seems to be too dark of a red too... maybe because you're trying to find a middleground between the traditional meatball red-tone and the red-tone used on the US symbol?
-The grey used on ship silhouette seems too bright, I think it should be a bit more of a shadow-grey than a silver-grey, but then you'd probably have to toy around with making the grey in the explosion almost black.
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Patches are 3" from farthest corner to farthest corner. At 1024x768 resolution on your computer screen, here is the actual size:
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/misc/aces_high/CSPatch220.jpg)
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I like Fencers... but the colors seems a tad off... anyone else think so?
IMO(s):
-The orange on the lettering seems a bit faded.
-The meatball seems to be too dark of a red too... maybe because you're trying to find a middleground between the traditional meatball red-tone and the red-tone used on the US symbol?
-The grey used on ship silhouette seems too bright, I think it should be a bit more of a shadow-grey than a silver-grey, but then you'd probably have to toy around with making the grey in the explosion almost black.
Orange = Coral.. Coral Sea.. get it? ;)
Meatball color is what is recommended for RGB settings to match Japanese paint. Same with the US insignia.
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Patches are 3" from farthest corner to farthest corner. At 1024x768 resolution on your computer screen, here is the actual size:
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/misc/aces_high/CSPatch220.jpg)
Oops. Forgot to upload the image the first time I posted.
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Orange = Coral.. Coral Sea.. get it? ;)
Meatball color is what is recommended for RGB settings to match Japanese paint. Same with the US insignia.
Understood... I still say it looks like faded DOT-Orange. :D
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Version 2. I did this over the weekend, and forgot all about it!
(http://www.51hangar.net/fencer/CSPatchV2.gif)
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Fencer, I like your designs -- just checking thought that you are keeping in mind patches are 3" farthest corner to farthest corner, and so details that look big and well defined in a large graphic can be tiny little things when you scale it to actual size. Also, this aspect ratio will come out as a patch about 1" high.
Have you looked at this design in actual size to see if any of the features you desire are too small perhaps to render in thread once we are at 3" farthest to farthest?
I just am looking at the large graphic, the stars, font outlining (which will almost always go away unless the text is a lot larger).
It is a great-looking graphic :aok -- just checking on scale items.
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Looks like a 4 inch patch to me. :aok
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Looks like a 4 inch patch to me. :aok
It gets more expensive -- I'd rather keep patches to 3" or (if they are not at all circular, maybe 3.5").
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Well circular is the most economical to make. This I understand, but then you get complaints (ala DoB) that people want something other than circular...
Circular will not work for this patch with the CV being required. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.. its not like Heidi is going to say "Fencer, you are out! Auf widersehen!". (uh did I just reference that show)
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I personaly like Fencer's version 2.0 more than 1.0... though on the subject of costs, wouldn't a round patch actualy be less efficient on source material? Last I checked most raw materials were sold in square X amounts. But the stitching over the increased area I'd imagine isn't too cheap, especialy with the interestign variety there in Fencer's design. Pending community aproval, maybe if we make this order along with Krupp Steel's (assuming it's more of a standard sized patch) the shop could give us a deal? I'm not a patch maker though, just a drafter.
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Actually, I just checked, and the place I use is not using farthest corner to farthest corner anymore but (length+width)/2 as their size metric. So, that's a help. I still wouldn't recommend wider than about 3.5", though, or it won't fit into an assortment of other patches, which are all 3" diameter.
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If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.. its not like Heidi is going to say "Fencer, you are out! Auf widersehen!". (uh did I just reference that show)
:lol I sometimes get to watch that with my better half as well.
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Coral Sea 2009 patches are in. Details are here:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,283562.0.html