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Special Events Forums => Scenario General => Topic started by: fudgums on August 18, 2009, 09:32:20 AM
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:pray :pray :x :x :)
Possibly?
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People love the late war planeset. The funny thing is, in our effort to balance out the late war mania of the arenas, it's a period that seems under-represented in scenarios and FSO. Battle of the Bulge would be awesome. :aok
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Interesting...
So would this be the first Major AH GV scenario?
Let's see;
- Watch on the Rhine [Ground]
- Siege at Bastogne [Ground]
- Operation Bodenplatte [Air]
- Operation Northwind [Both]
All very cool. This should be a GVers treat. :aok
Cheers...
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Stalin's Fourth holds that claim.
However, a lot of folks weren't happy to sign up for planes to be shunted into GVs 2 of the 4 frames.
This is and always will be primarily a flight game. GVs don't work very well in most cases (they're shoe-horned into the game structure, bugs and flaws and all) and any scenario with primarily GV action is going to suffer on numbers, and on players that want to participate.
Bulge would include a LARGE air component, so it could be possible. However, I would strongly advise you put out of mind any scenario that is only ground-based.
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Battle of the Bulge would be great, but it would depend, in my opinion, on having the right map for it. Is there one?
I know we have the Rhine map, but that's too far east, and I haven't seen any other winterized Euro maps. Bulge map would also specifically need denser forests than we now have, and having the right road layout would be critical for immersion in things like the Bastogne siege and the heavy Jabo phase of the battle once the skies cleared.
I personally wouldn't mind an all-GV first two frames with the final two frames being both air and GV. But I may be in the minority on that.
But overall, pretty please on the next scenario being Late War, either Western Europe or Russian front.
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Actually, we HAVE (or at least, had) an ardennes terrain. It was very woody, with custom bases for St. Vith and Bastogne. I don't think it has been update, though.
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Relax guys, its designed (relatively), has a terrain custom made for it (the one you are talking about) and only is waiting on the right combination of items to allow it to be ran.
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Artillery could be used as well as most of the bases on the Ardennes08 map have shore batteries. Yes I know there shore batteries but it could be fun for the use of artillery.
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Ardennes needs snow.
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Kuban might be a good option. Although the battle of Kursk involved more planes the airwar over the Kuban bridgehead signaled a shift in fortunes that the germans never recovered from. Interesting read from a german aces perspective. I'm curious in the "operation neptune" and/or similiar operations would make a good scenario.
http://www.graf-grislawski.elknet.pl/kuban.htm (http://www.graf-grislawski.elknet.pl/kuban.htm)
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Ardennes needs snow.
Ya think? :rolleyes:
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All of the desert and snow maps will need some serious time invested in them I think.
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Fencer, you build it and SAPP will come.
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HMS staff is working on something, but we are a long ways off.
We are trying to learn from problems (and overcome) from previous GV based events.
Krusty is correct for the most part, this is meant to be primarily a flight sim, but GV based events do have merit, granted there any many hurdles to jump.
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Hey Fencer,
Maybe not for this scenario, but consider Anzio and the Fourth Battle of Cassino. Now that time
period was filled with awesome air battles as well as great ground action... :aok
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one of the main things will be picking a terrain that is in decent shape post patch.
with regard to gvs in scenarios stalins forth was an excellent one but in terms of number of gvs involved is high in that many people who otherwise prefer planes were put into them. it worked ok for that and we will likely run stalins again but the scenario where we tried a gv role filled solely with tankers was tunisia.
tunisia as an experiment in that regard showed that we can probably have scenarios with a dedicated section for takers but we need to have it be less than 60 players worth (probably more like 30 to 40) and have to be even more careful about aircraft tank interaction. we gave that a lot of thought for tunisia but might need even more separation.
other ideas for gvs could be one life in planes and one in tanks but tunisia was built in part to see what would happen with a dedicated gv section.
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I think Bulge would be an awesome scenario! :O
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one of the main things will be picking a terrain that is in decent shape post patch.
with regard to gvs in scenarios stalins forth was an excellent one but in terms of number of gvs involved is high in that many people who otherwise prefer planes were put into them. it worked ok for that and we will likely run stalins again but the scenario where we tried a gv role filled solely with tankers was tunisia.
tunisia as an experiment in that regard showed that we can probably have scenarios with a dedicated section for takers but we need to have it be less than 60 players worth (probably more like 30 to 40) and have to be even more careful about aircraft tank interaction. we gave that a lot of thought for tunisia but might need even more separation.
other ideas for gvs could be one life in planes and one in tanks but tunisia was built in part to see what would happen with a dedicated gv section.
I ran a Tiger squad in Tunisia and I can tell you a GV-based scenario was a blast for me and others I'm sure. Good stuff. :aok
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Artillery could be used as well as most of the bases on the Ardennes08 map have shore batteries. Yes I know there shore batteries but it could be fun for the use of artillery.
That's exactly why they were placed on the map--to simulate artillery. Thank Easyscor for that bit of foresight...
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Having a ground war is a nice way to keep the fights at historical levels without something artificial like rule settings and/or massive down drafts.
I've looked forward to DGSII for a long time, you better grease your ankle Fencer, I'm going to be all over it. :devil
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Dibs on the 474th FG :)
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Dibs on the 474th FG :)
Corkyjr is my ride home, so I have to fly with him :D
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I call dibs on a P-51 Mustang Squadron! :aok :rock :devil :x :D
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I call dibs on a P-51 Mustang Squadron! :aok :rock :devil :x :D
Better take a P-51 Bravo squadron, so even the G-14's can catch ya on the deck. DGS1 memories.
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Better take a P-51 Bravo squadron, so even the G-14's can catch ya on the deck. DGS1 memories.
I would love to fly the bravo in a scenario and don't knock it too much, the P-51B is faster than the P-51D over 25,000.
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Strip
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Better take a P-51 Bravo squadron, so even the G-14's can catch ya on the deck. DGS1 memories.
I heard that was a consequence of the 2nd life the axis pilots had. If they were shot down in a fight that had descended down low, simply reup and run down your antagonists who are now low on ammunition.
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Better take a P-51 Bravo squadron, so even the G-14's can catch ya on the deck. DGS1 memories.
Ill take any version of the Mustang, im deadly in both! :rock
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Ill take any version of the Mustang, im deadly in both! :rock
Spam Can drivers! What ya gonna do? :)
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<----Having his P47 checked out.
Found the can opener for you Pony gents.
Blakeslee when informed the 4th FG was going to fly Jugs instead of spitfires. "It dam well better dive! It sure won't climb!"
Sissy :lol (whataya spect from an easymode former spit Pilot) ;)
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Hajo my brotha from anotha motha!! Someday i want to DA you! My P-51B/D against your jug! :x