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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: maddafinga on August 19, 2009, 10:12:12 PM
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This is a crappy scan of a drawing that took a very long time but came out excellently. The original burned up in my apartment fire a couple of years ago. I'll post some more drawings later on, until then, here ya go. Sorry for the crappy scan, it's a few years old now and just copies of copies. Maybe if I find the disc of the original scan one of these days I'll post the better quality original scan of it.
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/surabachi.jpg)
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:O Very nice work
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No kidding...wow. That is talent you have there. Just look at the shirts..the folds etc...detail is incredible. Well done.
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This is a crappy scan of a drawing that took a very long time but came out excellently. The original burned up in my apartment fire a couple of years ago. I'll post some more drawings later on, until then, here ya go. Sorry for the crappy scan, it's a few years old now and just copies of copies. Maybe if I find the disc of the original scan one of these days I'll post the better quality original scan of it.
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/surabachi.jpg)
It looks like you drew over the original, or copied it somehow, changing a few details like the flag position. Its "copies of copies" alright. :huh
All that detail and yet you missed the flag position. :lol
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/iwo-flag.jpg)
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Nice work Madda... don't worry about the critics, I too enjoy drawing. More of a "Pen and Inker" myself... but I can appreciate the time it took you to do this.
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I like it, but....the flag is going the wrong way.
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Yes, the flag is going the wrong way... but this is probably why. It appears he drew the picture on a piece of paper turned sideways (landscape). It looks like he started drawing the troops first... then ran out of room for the flagpole. The flagpole in his picture is shorter than the one in the photo, and in order to be able to see more of the flag, he made it fly the opposite way. If he had made it fly the same direction as the one in the photo, you would only see a few stripes at the bottom.
Again... great job, and awesome detail. I know it took you a lot of time... no criticism on my end :aok
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Golly-gee, that's some amazing talent!
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #2
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Very nice indeed.
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See Rules #2, #4
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See Rules #2, #4
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It looks like you drew over the original, or copied it somehow, changing a few details like the flag position. Its "copies of copies" alright. :huh
All that detail and yet you missed the flag position. :lol
I started to be a little angry about that, but then I realised that it was something of a compliment. No, I didn't trace it or use a grid or a projection or anything like that at all. I used only my eyes and my hands. I've had people ask me if I traced it, but never accuse me like you somwhat rudely did there. I feel about as good at that accusation as I would about someone accusing me of cheating in the MA. So, Thank You!
The flag is in that position because I ran out of room on the paper. I initially got fascinated by all the textures and shades in the folds of the clothes and so set out to draw the guys on their own. As it progressed, and seemed to be taking shape well it just seemed wrong not to have the flag in the picture. Since on an 8.5x11 page is only so tall when it's turned long ways, I improvised. I didn't want to leave the flag out so that was my solution.
If you think about it, if I were tracing the pic, I'd have noticed that would be a problem right from the start and just used a bigger sheet of paper, and it never would have been an issue at all.
I do appreciate the compliment though, thanks.
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Nice work Madda... don't worry about the critics, I too enjoy drawing. More of a "Pen and Inker" myself... but I can appreciate the time it took you to do this.
Thanks AKP! It did take a long time and a good bit of effort to get things just right. I get obsessed on detail easily and can tend to go overboard. The only pen and ink that I have is this drawing of a panda I did using plain old bic ballpoint pen. It's a quick and dirty job, took maybe a half an hour (and it shows IMO)
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/panda.jpg)
Edited to add: Thanks for all the kind words everyone, it makes me feel good when people enjoy my obsessive compulsions.
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It looks like you drew over the original, or copied it somehow, changing a few details like the flag position. Its "copies of copies" alright. :huh
All that detail and yet you missed the flag position. :lol
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/iwo-flag.jpg)
Quite a statement, considering if you actually superimpose the original over his drawing they don't actually line up (The individual details line up almost perfectly and you can actually lose track of where the original is locally, but as a whole the drawing doesn't line up with the original photo... which you would expect from something that isn't traced).
Fantastic work madda. Really amazing.
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Hey thanks! I've never tried lining it up, but I'd imagine that it would hold up pretty well. I appreciate the compliment, and the defence!
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Madda, you should post your Einstein or your "Dustbowl" drawings as well. Those are terrific pieces too.
As for the seemingly derogatory comments made by the OP... you've taken the right approach to dealing with them, buddy. It's an unintended testament to your talent that someone would actually accuse you of it. Carry on! :rock
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Madda, you should post your Einstein or your "Dustbowl" drawings as well. Those are terrific pieces too.
As for the seemingly derogatory comments made by the OP... you've taken the right approach to dealing with them, buddy. It's an unintended testament to your talent that someone would actually accuse you of it. Carry on! :rock
I will probably post some of the others later. The dustbowl pic is at my Mom's house and next time I'm there I'll grab it and scan it now that it's complete.
Now if someone would only accuse me of cheating in the main arena...
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Madda,
That is some amazing work.
Pay no mind to the naysayers and know-it-alls. The world is full of stunninghunks, you just have to ignore them.
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Looks great madda! I thought I was looking at a photograph for nearly a minute. :confused: hehe :aok :aok
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Thanks AKP! It did take a long time and a good bit of effort to get things just right. I get obsessed on detail easily and can tend to go overboard. The only pen and ink that I have is this drawing of a panda I did using plain old bic ballpoint pen. It's a quick and dirty job, took maybe a half an hour (and it shows IMO)
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/panda.jpg)
Edited to add: Thanks for all the kind words everyone, it makes me feel good when people enjoy my obsessive compulsions.
For a quick and dirty drawing with only a ball point pen, it sure is an excellent job. Looks kind of sad being stuck in a tree like that.
I can't wait until you do one of a P-38J *hint* :pray
ack-ack
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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There are enough subtle differences to tell that it isnt a photoshop render of the original photo. Thank you for bringing up Photoshop though... as it is the PERECT tool to use to show that this wasnt traced, scanned, or rendered from a photo using photoshop or anything like it. It appears to be, in fact, a scanned original drawing.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l273/woosle_2006/NOTACOPY.jpg)
I used the helmet as indicated to scale the two images to the same scale. I then layered the drawing over the photo, reduced its opacity to 30%, and tinted it red to show just how much the drawing differs from the photo. You will notice, that while I can make certain parts of the two line up, I cannot make anywhere near all of it line up at any time. There are different angles, sizes, lengths, and none of them are consistent. While is is DARN CLOSE.... its not perfect... as one would expect from a faked image.
No... its IMPERFECT... just as one would expect a hand drawn picture to be. I am sure he looked at the original photo while drawing it, and he has a much better sense of scale than I do... but I have seen artists... WHILE THEY ARE DRAWING MIND YOU... that can do JUST THIS!
I would be willing to bet, that since the sense of scale gets more and more off the further from center that you go, that he started drawing the CENTER Marine first... then worked outwards. While the center Marine is almost dead on to scale, the rest gets further off the farther away from center you get. Keeping proper scale is DARN HARD when hand copying an actual photo or drawing.
Yeah... photoshop will do a lot. If you dont like the picture... fine. Thats your OPINION. If you think its a fake... thats your OPINION too. But if you are gonna trash the guy just because... and with no proof... then keep it to yourself.
Again... great job Madda...
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There are enough subtle differences to tell that it isnt a photoshop render of the original photo. Thank you for bring up Photoshop though... as it is the PERECT tool to use to show that this wasnt traced, scenned, or rendered from a photo using photoshop or anything like it. It appears to be, in fact, a scanned original drawing.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l273/woosle_2006/NOTACOPY.jpg)
I used the helmet as indicated to scale the two images to the same scale. I then layered the drawing over the photo, reduced its opacity to 30%, and tinted it red to show just how much the drawing differs from the photo. You will notice, that while I can make certain parts of the two line up, I cannot make anywhere near all of it line up at any time. There are different angles, sizes, lengths, and none of them are consistent. While is is DARN CLOSE.... its not perfect... as one would expect from a faked image.
No... its IMPERFECT... just as one would expect a hand drawn picture to be. I am sure he looked at the original photo while drawing it, and he has a much better sense of scale than I do... but I have seen artists... WHILE THEY ARE DRAWING MIND YOU... that can do JUST THIS!
I would be willing to bet, that since the sense of scale gets more and more off the further from center that you go, that he started drawing the CENTER Marine first... then worked outwards. While the center Marine is almost dead on to scale, the rest gets further off the farther away from center you get. Keeping proper scale is DARN HARD when hand copying an actual photo or drawing.
Yeah... photoshop will do a lot. If you dont like the picture... fine. Thats your OPINION. If you think its a fake... thats your OPINION too. But if you are gonna trash the guy just because... and with no proof... then keep it to yourself.
Again... great job Madda...
Genius AKP, pure genius :aok :aok :aok
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And here is another way to look at it... with the two images alternating:
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l273/woosle_2006/notacopy-1.gif)
You can see that there are MANY things that do not line up, are drawn differently, in different shapes, and in different sizes.
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Even more excellent since most of my scratchings come out more like this....
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q96/Shuff_photos/img007.jpg)
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And here is another way to look at it... with the two images alternating:
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l273/woosle_2006/notacopy-1.gif)
You can see that there are MANY things that do not line up, are drawn differently, in different shapes, and in different sizes.
This image shows it much better. The wrinkles are not exactly replicated. They are extremely close but not exact, only in general shape and shading.
The thing to remember is someone who draws things like this generally pay extreme attention to details. Which is the reason that I am not able to draw like this but I know of many that can.
So I say Rich just because you can't draw to this caliber and you have trouble trusting others does not mean that everyone is a liar or cheat. Actually my grandfather had a saying for this, most men who have trouble trusting others are like that because they themselves are not trust worthy.
BTW madda you are a haxxor, CHEATER :rofl
excellent drawings I can't wait to see more. Bring it on.
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This is ridiculous.
But sitting there, drawing freehand? I dont think so.
Just because you can't do something, doesn't mean there isn't someone else who can.
This is a perfect parallel to the 'you out turned me you must be cheating!!111!!!' scenario... it's almost comical.
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None of which is difficult.
Just changing the length and width of the photo explains a lot of it. Everything else? Have any of you used a program like photoshop before?
Look I didnt want this to turn into a flame...but freehand drawing while looking at the picture?? :lol Oh, and BTW, "the housefire". :rofl
Hey, believe what you want. Most people do anyways. This is the internet and we can be whoever we want to be. The thing I dont understand is why so many think we have to .
Heres what 45 seconds in PS can do.
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/iwo-jima-flag-fromblog-1.jpg)
to this
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/iwo-jima-flag-fromblogclonestamp.jpg)
Originals were lost in a flood. All I have are digital copies.
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As usual, you pick what you want to believe and ignore the facts. I AM an artist... I can recognize a drawing. Sure... you stretched the photo. The point is that none of the differences are symmetrical, or consistent.
I think everyone but you here can see the drawing for what it is. A hand drawn picture, done while looking at a photo, with more detail in it than the photo ever had.
Have I ever used Photoshop? Everyday for the last 10 years.
Once again, I would rather go and beat my head against a rock than argue with someone who will never get it.
Color me out on this one too... and again, GREAT JOB MADDA!!! :aok
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None of which is difficult.
Just changing the length and width of the photo explains a lot of it. Everything else? Have any of you used a program like photoshop before?
Look I didnt want this to turn into a flame...but freehand drawing while looking at the picture?? :lol Oh, and BTW, "the housefire". :rofl
Hey, believe what you want. Most people do anyways. This is the internet and we can be whoever we want to be. The thing I dont understand is why so many think we have to .
Heres what 45 seconds in PS can do.
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/iwo-jima-flag-fromblog-1.jpg)
to this
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/iwo-jima-flag-fromblogclonestamp.jpg)
Originals were lost in a flood. All I have are digital copies.
Sorry if I missed the point to this picture here. It looks nothing like a drawing and everything like a photoshopped image. You managed to blur the image instead of making look like anything but a blurred image and you shaded out the flag, which even my obsolete computer and even worse eyes was able to detect.
Congradulations on showing us that you know how to manipulate and image, now show us how you can make it look like and hand drawing too.
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Look I didnt want this to turn into a flame...but freehand drawing while looking at the picture?? :lol Oh, and BTW, "the housefire". :rofl
You're coming off very poorly here, Rich. If your accusations are incorrect (which many, including myself, think is the case), then not only are you being a jerk about a drawing, but far more importantly, you're dismissing the guy's house burning down...
Why don't you just bow out while you can?
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Madda excellent work.
This is the internet and we can be whoever we want to be.
And this is your choice? I'm inclined to believe that you can't help yourself.
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Wow, what a bunch of craziness! First off, AKP, thanks a lot for making a much better rebuttal than I would ever have been able to do. I've never really messed with Photoshop so I can't really use it for beans. I appreciate the work you put into that pretty obvious slam. It brought a smile to my face. The fact that he doesn't want to believe that it's a drawing that I made is really fairly insignifigant to me. My friends and family and everyone that I know and care about know the truth because they all saw it being done, my squaddies know, because they saw in progress shots and then the finished work too. That alone is good enough for me. You guys all coming out to back me up and even doing work to prove my point, that's just a sweet icing on the cake. I appreciate it, thanks all.
ace pilot, thanks for calling me a cheater! WooHoo!!
The order that I drew it in was basically the same as I work on any actual drawing that is more than just a quick sketch. I draw a good and only slightly sketchy outline and I make sure all my proportions are right before I go any further. I make sure everything lines up relative to every landmark that I can see. I draw upside down and right side up and sideways and at all angles, I move the paper any which way as I go. Once that is done I start blocking in the areas that are going to be darker and working the detail and shading into those areas and then I follow up withe the lighter areas. I usually start on whatever area looks the most interesting to draw first, failing that I work left to right, since I'm right handed. I actually think I started from the left and worked my way right on that one. I know all the detail work was done that way for sure, but I think I sketched it out in that order also, to the best of my recollection. The basic line drawing was done in an hour or two, the rest of it took months.
Here's another pic that kind of shows my methodology, it was juuuust about finished when the fire took it too. I was drawing this for a friend of mine who also happens to be an AH player. I met him back in aw days, his father was a Naval aviator during the war, and this is a portrait of him that I was making. I never got to send him the finished product because of the fire, and I've always regretted that.
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/knopf.jpg)
Another note on the apartment fire, it not only destroyed all my artwork, but also all my supplies, all my paints, pencils and erasers and paper, my airbrush and good silent compressor, all my model building equipment and kits, furniture clothes and everything else. I got out with my dog and my girlfriend and the clothes that I put on when the dog woke us up. I'm only just now beginning to restock stuff. I can't understand what anyone would think that I stand to gain by lying about all of that just out of the blue.
Thank you all.
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Madda, I'm absolutely amazed at your patience.
Rich, I very, very seldom expend any effort to try and help anyone as absolute and resolutely benighted as you so obviously are, and I'm not going to break my streak for your sake. :lol
I've never seen anyone so obviously wrong try to so pathetically pretend otherwise. You must be a hoot at parties, people must ask your opinion for the entertainment value alone. I'm going to hazard a guess it doesn't happen often.
Note to self: Don't go on any expeditions that Rich leads. The guy couldn't find his backside if it were lit up in neon light. He'd probably insist it was just a illusion done in Photoshop and proceed to "prove" it.
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Bombrich.....you, sir, are clueless to art. Matter of fact, if you think no one can look at that picture and free hand it, making it look just like the original, then let me call my art teacher and have him send me some of my artwork and his as well. It's a skill. One that you, apparently, do not have, and you are either jealous of the fact that Madda has this skill or you envy him. Either way, you are approaching this in the wrong fashion and making yourself look like a total feces-exit-way.
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See Rule #4
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Skuzzy has enough work...
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I think these just about say it all... yeah, I found you on Photobucket Madda... Hope you dont mind me posting these, but they need to be seen.
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/dustbowl.jpg)
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/leopard.jpg)
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/oldman.jpg)
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/Einstein.jpg)
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/chosin.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/maddafinga/andreascar.jpg)
Very consistent style, shading, detail, and technique. I think most of us understand that the "hawk" is a sketch, and what the difference between a sketch and a worked piece of art is.
Great work on all of these. :salute
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Not only did you capture the image Madda, but in looking at the pics AKP posted, i could almost tell you what all the persons in these drawings are thinking, amazing artwork sir.
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Maddafinga if you drew all those by hand then I retract what I said and ask to be forgiven.
Your word is good enough, tho I'd rather have done it away from the peanut gallery. Or was it peanut brained?
Unfortunatly Ive become very suspicious towards anything I hear on the Internet.
Good luck to you on your art endeavors.
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I sure do wish you had the original. I'm an Iwo Jima freak. Been there, climbed Suribachi, went in a few caves, and came home with some black sand....shhhhhh, don't tell anyone. I would definitely be contacting you to find out a price for that original. Great work. :salute
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Madda, yours is a true talent. My own abilities are humbled in your presence! I'd love to post some of my drawings but I don't think they deserve to share the same electrons as what you've created.
As for the other part of this thread, wow.... what a trainwreck. Sad.
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Maddafinga if you drew all those by hand then I retract what I said and ask to be forgiven.
Your word is good enough, tho I'd rather have done it away from the peanut gallery. Or was it peanut brained?
Unfortunatly Ive become very suspicious towards anything I hear on the Internet.
Good luck to you on your art endeavors.
Well, I can understand some cynicisim, but wow man. I really hate to be called a liar. I'll accept your apology and commend you for having the guts to publicly post an admission like that. I am not a professional artist, not by any stretch. I work as a dental technician making porcelain crowns and bridges and veneers and such. I work with a paintbrush half the day and with a set of dental drills the other half. It takes a great deal of patience and focus and artistic ability and nearly endless attention to small detail. I'm pretty well suited to it. I wouldn't have the first clue about how to become a professional artist. I've never sold a drawing.
AKP, I really can't believe all the work you've done here supporting me like that. I'm somewhat surprised about you finding my photobucket page, I didn't know that was publicly available, but that's cool, I don't have anything embarassing up there. I owe you all the check6 s I can get to you man! Thanks again.
The only one of those that I have access to anymore is the dustbowl pic of the woman with her kids. It's finished and I had given it to my parents some months before the fire. They're coming into town Tuesday so I'll see if I can get them to bring it and I'll make a good quality scan of the finished product. On that note, does anyone have any good tips for getting a good jpg out of a scan, I'm not good with that at all. I have Gimp, because it's free, but I don't really know what to do with it to get a good detailed high quality pic out of a scan. Any help at all there would be wonderful.
Thank you all for the work and the kind words.
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I sure do wish you had the original. I'm an Iwo Jima freak. Been there, climbed Suribachi, went in a few caves, and came home with some black sand....shhhhhh, don't tell anyone. I would definitely be contacting you to find out a price for that original. Great work. :salute
I wouldn't sell it anyway man, it took me so long to do and so much work....
That's awesome that you went to Iwo and climbed Suribachi, I'm jealous of you for that. Did you take any pics, I'd love to see them. Maybe when I get a little time I can knock something out for you though. It won't be that level of work, but I'm sure I can do something you'd enjoy.
Thanks!
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Madda, yours is a true talent. My own abilities are humbled in your presence! I'd love to post some of my drawings but I don't think they deserve to share the same electrons as what you've created.
As for the other part of this thread, wow.... what a trainwreck. Sad.
Trainwreck is right, but I think everything has cooled out now.
Man Reaper, post away with your stuff! I love seeing other people's work. I always feel inspired and appreciative when I get to see some things that other people do. Hell, I'm not the greatist, drawing is just basically a hobby for me, though truthfully it's something of a compulsion too. There are guys here that are fantastic though, GrayEagle is really great and I'm constantly in awe of him and his work in all sorts of media. Ink posted a pic in another thread too that looks really excellent. I haven't seen much of his portfolio, but I'm betting that it's fantastic. The way that I look at it is you can't go wrong making something for yourself and if you did it and like it then that's all that really matters. Post some of it up, I'd love to check it out!
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AKP, I really can't believe all the work you've done here supporting me like that. I'm somewhat surprised about you finding my photobucket page, I didn't know that was publicly available, but that's cool, I don't have anything embarassing up there. I owe you all the check6 s I can get to you man! Thanks again.
Dont mention it Madda. Spent the first 21 years of my life in Oklahoma... you had just better be a Sooner fan! :D Speaking of Oklahoma, I am sure you have heard of Greg Burns. The detail you put into your stuff reminds me of his work.
I will dig through some of my stuff and see if I have anything I can post here. Most of my latest stuff is cartoony. I did some more serious stuff a few years back, but I just havent had the drive to do any lately. I never pursued art professionally either. I tried, but it took all the fun out of it. I draw what I feel, when I feel it.
Take care! :salute
(http://www.herbanmedia.com/ifootball/ncaa-college-football/images/74/1189337658_1455458857_oklahoma_5.gif)
BOOMER SOONER!
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Madda,
I just found this thread. I really enjoyed the work posted, and wish you the greatest success in the future.
Awesome stuff :aok
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I meant to post this yesterday but I couldn't remember the artist's name.
A few years ago, my wife and I bought a coffee-table art book for my son that's germane to this thread (truthfully, I wanted the danged book for myself as well). It's a gorgeous book of prints by artist Simon Combes and the book is called Great Cats (pub. 1998) :aok. It's available at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Great-Cats-Stories-World-Traveller/dp/0867130482/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250885187&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Great-Cats-Stories-World-Traveller/dp/0867130482/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250885187&sr=8-1)
Anyway, my original point was that hyper-realistic drawing IS possible, as evidenced by Mr Combes, among others. Mr. Combes' work is utterly jaw-dropping :O. Bear in mind that he is a pencil artist and painter, not a photographer. I did a Google image search for some of his stuff so you can check it out:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=simon+combes&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=lP2OSsepNdPH-Qbf08nyDQ&gbv=2 (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=simon+combes&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=lP2OSsepNdPH-Qbf08nyDQ&gbv=2)
People like Madda and Mr. Combes, with that level of talent, ARE rare but they have a gift that should be praised and appreciated when they choose share it.
FWIW,
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Dont mention it Madda. Spent the first 21 years of my life in Oklahoma... you had just better be a Sooner fan! :D Speaking of Oklahoma, I am sure you have heard of Greg Burns. The detail you put into your stuff reminds me of his work.
I will dig through some of my stuff and see if I have anything I can post here. Most of my latest stuff is cartoony. I did some more serious stuff a few years back, but I just havent had the drive to do any lately. I never pursued art professionally either. I tried, but it took all the fun out of it. I draw what I feel, when I feel it.
Take care! :salute
BOOMER SOONER!
Hey I went to OU for a year. I was an art major there until I began to lose focus and party a lot more. I didn't really want to be a teacher (though my mother and stepdad are) and the only things I was interested in were Art and History and Philosophy, basically stuff you can only use to teach. So I kind of just went my own way.
I do know Greg Burns, well, not personally; he did either three or four paintings of the inside of my grandparent's house when it was finished, really excellent work. I was out of town at the time and didn't get to meet him, but they hung the little watercolors up around the house and I looked at them all the time. Good stuff there!
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I meant to post this yesterday but I couldn't remember the artist's name.
A few years ago, my wife and I bought a coffee-table art book for my son that's germane to this thread (truthfully, I wanted the danged book for myself as well). It's a gorgeous book of prints by artist Simon Combes and the book is called Great Cats (pub. 1998) :aok. It's available at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Great-Cats-Stories-World-Traveller/dp/0867130482/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250885187&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Great-Cats-Stories-World-Traveller/dp/0867130482/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250885187&sr=8-1)
Anyway, my original point was that hyper-realistic drawing IS possible, as evidenced by Mr Combes, among others. Mr. Combes' work is utterly jaw-dropping :O. Bear in mind that he is a pencil artist and painter, not a photographer. I did a Google image search for some of his stuff so you can check it out:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=simon+combes&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=lP2OSsepNdPH-Qbf08nyDQ&gbv=2 (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=simon+combes&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=lP2OSsepNdPH-Qbf08nyDQ&gbv=2)
People like Madda and Mr. Combes, with that level of talent, ARE rare but they have a gift that should be praised and appreciated when they choose share it.
FWIW,
Hey, thanks Wraith! I haven't know about that guy, he does really excellent work. I wish I could use color as well as him. Maybe it's time for me to get a new set of Prismas and some watercolor pencils and give it something of a shot again.
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Man Reaper, post away with your stuff! I love seeing other people's work. I always feel inspired and appreciative when I get to see some things that other people do. Hell, I'm not the greatist, drawing is just basically a hobby for me, though truthfully it's something of a compulsion too. There are guys here that are fantastic though, GrayEagle is really great and I'm constantly in awe of him and his work in all sorts of media. Ink posted a pic in another thread too that looks really excellent. I haven't seen much of his portfolio, but I'm betting that it's fantastic. The way that I look at it is you can't go wrong making something for yourself and if you did it and like it then that's all that really matters. Post some of it up, I'd love to check it out!
We should start an "Art thread." I was already thinking about buying a scanner today and I do have some stuff I'd like to share after I edit it a bit to make it Skuzzy-friendly ;) It's not anywhere near your league and is a different genre (think Sunday funnies meets Maus) but I had a good time making it, and that's what counts :aok
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WoW
Both you guys have great talent,me I cant draw a straight line with a pencil and ruler!
:salute
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We should start an "Art thread." I was already thinking about buying a scanner today and I do have some stuff I'd like to share after I edit it a bit to make it Skuzzy-friendly ;) It's not anywhere near your league and is a different genre (think Sunday funnies meets Maus) but I had a good time making it, and that's what counts :aok
Good idea about the Art Thread, I'd read it and it would certainly be one of my favorites. I always love checking out people's screenshot art type of threads, a handmade artwork one would be even better to me.
Thanks Morfiend!