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Title: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on August 21, 2009, 12:15:59 AM
did a noobscake run a little earlier..  :lol

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Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: AirFlyer on August 21, 2009, 12:32:09 AM
Puts my 15,109 to shame lol.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: TilDeath on August 21, 2009, 12:32:59 AM
Awesome score... stats are small but Great score.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on August 21, 2009, 07:35:04 PM
Awesome score... stats are small but Great score.
Puts my 15,109 to shame lol.

thanks! just couldnt get it past 5.0GHz. bigger pic here.

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv4/wuttzi/3D1-1.png
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on August 21, 2009, 08:46:28 PM
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Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: TilDeath on August 22, 2009, 09:09:24 AM
Puts my 15,109 to shame lol.
NO your 15k is fine... he got this with LN... impressive score still but not a 24/7 system
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 22, 2009, 01:06:37 PM
NO your 15k is fine... he got this with LN... impressive score still but not a 24/7 system

Could be.. maybe he lives on a natural LN2 fountain and just lets it pour in..  :x
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: AirFlyer on August 22, 2009, 03:11:32 PM
It's an air-cooled, 24/7 OC. I was never overly interested in things like LN2 since it's not possible to use it 24/7 reasonably.

An on other note those are some neat pics. of the entire pot being frosted over.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on August 22, 2009, 04:11:30 PM
Could be.. maybe he lives on a natural LN2 fountain and just lets it pour in..  :x

i wish! 35L of LN2 = $46.00
worth every cent for the fun you get! =)

It's an air-cooled, 24/7 OC. I was never overly interested in things like LN2 since it's not possible to use it 24/7 reasonably.

An on other note those are some neat pics. of the entire pot being frosted over.

yup, LN2 meant for suicide runs only. funny thing is, i've pumped 1.8v-1.9v into this chip and it just wouldn't die!
here it is, still running and playing AH2... and bomb tarding GV's.  =P

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Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: guncrasher on August 22, 2009, 09:42:23 PM
i think your the only one that actually has a box for your computer  :)

semp
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on August 29, 2009, 12:40:45 AM
another build =)
AMD Phenom II 955BE
ECS A785GM-M
OCZ3 DDR3-2000
Seagate 7200.11 500GB/32MB
PCP&C 750W
ASUS BD-ROM
Prolimatech Megahalem

plays AH2 at medium settings, 30fps lowest, 36-37fps average.
yup, onboard radeon 4200. overclocked to 790core/400ddr.
although i wouldn't recommend it. i have a 4870X2 on the side.

enjoy..

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Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 29, 2009, 02:45:08 AM
Either you have non-static special full carpeting or you like to live dangerously..  :lol
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: OOZ662 on August 29, 2009, 03:00:56 AM
One day I had a great idea to leave my hard drive sitting on my floppy drive like that. The giant mark burnt into the top of my floppy drive is something I'll carry with me forever...or at least until floppies are entirely phased out, since it seems floppy drives just don't die. :D
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: OOZ662 on August 29, 2009, 03:02:49 AM
Either you have non-static special full carpeting or you like to live dangerously..  :lol

Looks like it's sitting on a pad. Maybe rubber.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 29, 2009, 03:03:19 AM
On a second look if that power supply has bottom or top ventilation you're also in for a serious fire hazard dood.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 29, 2009, 03:05:02 AM
Looks like it's sitting on a pad. Maybe rubber.

Look at the left side corner it looks like touching the carpet. Not to mention what happens when he touches the board after rubbing his borom socks against the cat fur carpet repeatedly.. He has no chassis to ground himself to for starters.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: OOZ662 on August 29, 2009, 03:07:58 AM
I would hope that you could ground yourself on the case of the PSU...though you never know. :uhoh As I read on the other forum, it's a decent quality one, though.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: Reschke on August 29, 2009, 08:58:50 AM
This guy is the perfect candidate for the Antec Skeleton...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129056
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on August 30, 2009, 07:23:00 AM
Either you have non-static special full carpeting or you like to live dangerously..  :lol

the latter.  :devil

On a second look if that power supply has bottom or top ventilation you're also in for a serious fire hazard dood.

rear fan only with vents on all sides, none at top/bottom. i have extinguisher arms length away.  =P

I would hope that you could ground yourself on the case of the PSU...though you never know. :uhoh As I read on the other forum, it's a decent quality one, though.

i read otherwise, these PCP&C 750W "silencers" are the cheaper ones, not like the "quality" more expensive black-colored PCP&C turbo-cools.

This guy is the perfect candidate for the Antec Skeleton...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129056
was leaning more towards the DD mini-rack.
http://www.dangerden.com/store/mini-torture-rack.html (http://www.dangerden.com/store/mini-torture-rack.html)


Prime 95 Blend Test

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Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on September 02, 2009, 07:04:32 AM
4.0

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Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: TilDeath on September 02, 2009, 08:59:07 AM
Oh darn, now I have to get into the 4GHz act here too... will be making an edit here in a few mins.  Time to crank up the 920

EDIT (http://tdcomputersystems.com/builds/td/OC-9-2-2009-10-33-02-AM_sm.jpg)
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on September 02, 2009, 03:54:26 PM
nice clocks td, specially the NB and DDR3 freqs. 4.5 is do-able on that cpu, and on AIR.  ;)

not my run, but here just for reference.  :D

LINK (http://www2.gol.com/users/fcchapel/images/a64/3dmark06-30198_i7-920-4515m-215x21_1-4375v_3g-ddr3-2144c8-8-8-24_727-1600-1202_1138mv-gtx295-qsli_185-85.jpg)

good luck!  :aok
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: guncrasher on September 02, 2009, 04:40:53 PM
I cant believe that skribetm could not win at minesweeper even with  his puter cranked up all the way to 4k.   :eek:  think its time for a new build :).

semp
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on September 02, 2009, 05:03:14 PM
I cant believe that skribetm could not win at minesweeper even with  his puter cranked up all the way to 4k.   :eek:  think its time for a new build :).

semp

hehehe! gonna be a while for my next upgrade..

six core *(edit: DESKTOP) amd
and i wont have to change motherboards too, it's a drop-in AM3/AM2+ part. ;)

(http://www.techpowerup.com/img/09-09-01/53a.jpg)

http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?102903 (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?102903)
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 03, 2009, 12:00:13 AM
hehehe! gonna be a while for my next upgrade..

six core *(edit: DESKTOP) amd
and i wont have to change motherboards too, it's a drop-in AM3/AM2+ part. ;)

(http://www.techpowerup.com/img/09-09-01/53a.jpg)

http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?102903 (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?102903)

But the question is will it be any faster than an C2D E8500
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on September 03, 2009, 02:20:35 AM
But the question is will it be any faster than an C2D E8500

"faster" is too vague a term. in superpi where it is highly FPU x87 arch intensive(and code is 15 years outdated), of course it is.
if we talk wprime, E8500 is slower (even when compared to quad cores only). it would depend on your application.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 03, 2009, 04:18:10 AM
"faster" is too vague a term. in superpi where it is highly FPU x87 arch intensive(and code is 15 years outdated), of course it is.
if we talk wprime, E8500 is slower (even when compared to quad cores only). it would depend on your application.

Let's talk about real world performance and games (1 core utilized..)
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on September 03, 2009, 05:31:50 AM
Let's talk about real world performance and games (1 core utilized..)

sure we can discuss per core performance and efficiency, as long as you're up to the task of compiling gnu-mp on a vendor-neutral opensource compiler (gcc).
otherwise, lets leave it at this: a smaller-engine ducati bike will get to its "top speed" of 215mph faster than an 8.0 litre W16, 64v DOHC quad-turbocharged Bugatti Veyron.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 03, 2009, 05:59:16 AM
sure we can discuss per core performance and efficiency, as long as you're up to the task of compiling gnu-mp on a vendor-neutral opensource compiler (gcc).
otherwise, lets leave it at this: a smaller-engine ducati bike will get to its "top speed" of 215mph faster than an 8.0 litre W16, 64v DOHC quad-turbocharged Bugatti Veyron.


Lol what does gnu have to do with real world or especially gaming performance? :) It _is_ AH related discussion afterall.

Ok, *nix does have 0.8% market share granted.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on September 03, 2009, 06:23:44 AM
Lol what does gnu have to do with real world or especially gaming performance? :) It _is_ AH related discussion afterall.

Ok, *nix does have 0.8% market share granted.  :rolleyes:

i honestly cant tell if you're kidding or you're serious. it seems i'll have to start ignoring your posts, as they are half flame-baiting and half ridiculously uneducated.
in your "real world," yes *nix has 0.8% market share, and the only OS is microsoft, and the only game is AH2. unfortunately, you'll have to look out of your limited perception of reality to objectively evaluate the hardware you are using. ;)

please stop crapping in my thread.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 03, 2009, 06:27:05 AM
i honestly cant tell if you're kidding or you're serious. it seems i'll have to start ignoring your posts, as they are half flame-baiting and half ridiculously uneducated.
in your "real world," yes *nix has 0.8% market share, and the only OS is microsoft, and the only game is AH2. unfortunately, you'll have to look out of your limited perception of reality to objectively evaluate the hardware you are using. ;)

please stop crapping in my thread.

I'm sorry but you should instead explain what does your other games and/or OS'es have to do with AH of which this UBB is supposed to handle? When I said real world performance I meant it in context of gaming and AH.

Too bad you had to change subject and resort to personal attacks.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: OOZ662 on September 04, 2009, 03:19:36 AM
Shoot, if everything here HAS to be based on Windows/Aces High, somewhere around half of these discussions need to be nuked!

Also, it's generally better accepted to ask, "How well can this data apply to Aces High?" instead of saying "You're stupid for not taking all of these tests in the scope of Aces High. How does it even apply?"
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 04, 2009, 10:05:18 AM
Shoot, if everything here HAS to be based on Windows/Aces High, somewhere around half of these discussions need to be nuked!

Also, it's generally better accepted to ask, "How well can this data apply to Aces High?" instead of saying "You're stupid for not taking all of these tests in the scope of Aces High. How does it even apply?"

Pfft I was asking about real world performance at which time he started ranting about GMP compilations etc. The truth is I said something that hit his nerve and it kicked him to a sidetrain.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: Shamus on September 04, 2009, 06:43:24 PM
Well after seeing the thread title I was expecting to see what I did, a 3DMark bench.

I rather doubt that most in here expect all threads to relate to AH only.

shamus
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 05, 2009, 02:17:08 AM
Well after seeing the thread title I was expecting to see what I did, a 3DMark bench.

I rather doubt that most in here expect all threads to relate to AH only.

shamus

Look man (and this will be my last comment on the subject). He shows off his 6-core AMD chip. I ask if the part will really be competitive against basic Intel chips in a real world scenario. The OP knew it was a hit under the belt. Cue sidetrack to gnu compilations and personal attacks.

This is what happened and thats the end of story as far as I go.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: OOZ662 on September 05, 2009, 02:20:24 AM
He answered to his best degree in saying that there isn't a suitable application to test it in the scenario you were asking about. At least that's how I read it. Then you started thumping on him as if he were dodging you.
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on September 07, 2009, 06:03:49 AM
i apologize to ripley for blowing a gasket. took me a couple days to fix the leak. re: *nix, if im not mistaken, the server side for AH2 runs on one, and i think we get our updates in tar.gz or .bz2, not sure. btw, somewhere near "real world applications," is i think where it got murky for me, since i don't "get" what your definition of it is. afaik, real world applications today use sse, sse2, sse3, sse4 and x86_64/Intel64 instruction sets, so we could use a more relevant benchmark instead of superpi(which uses less than 5% of your cpu core die to perform it). also, since you have a dual core and me a quaddie, i suggest we stick to a single threaded app to calculate pi. use y-cruncher(in single threaded test) for windows, or compile gmp-chudnovsky.c with gcc. i have a feeling linux will run faster in computing pi. feel free to post your results so we can compare. we can evaluate core-for-core performance at 3.2GHz, 2GHz uncore freq(or cpu-nb freq) and ddr3-1066 7-7-7-16. it may be a tad difficult to have the exact same memory specs but the closer we get the better. having different peripheral system hardware will skew our core-for-core comparison results, but hopefully should give us reliable data.

my 'puters been on the floor a while now and the little time off i had prior to this labor day weekend allowed me to do a little work. it is as of yet unfinished. the custom pcie bracket im making out of sheet metal is still in the garage.

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also, in case y'all havent heard the news... more good things are coming our way 1Q 2010..

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.. and now overclocked(ES is unlocked, but retail will be locked)

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it uses DDR-3 in ECC mode..

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Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on September 19, 2009, 01:09:25 PM
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tinkered a little bit with the new board, comparing it to the ECS above.



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Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: Ghastly on September 20, 2009, 08:40:36 AM
Skribetm - is the "case" you are using something you built, or purchased?  It looks like it's made out of acrylic.  If memory serves me correctly (and it might not in this case) untreated acrylic is horrific bad about building up static.  I'm assuming if you bought it, it's been treated.

Also, you might want to make sure that there is a grounding strap between at least the powersupply case and one of the motherboard standoffs, if it's something you built.   I can see from the earlier post that you live on the edge, but it's always frustrating to have something blow regardless of whether it's "My Precious" or "Just another toy".

All just FWIW and IMO, of course.

<S>!
Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: skribetm on September 21, 2009, 12:01:48 AM
Skribetm - is the "case" you are using something you built, or purchased?  It looks like it's made out of acrylic.  If memory serves me correctly (and it might not in this case) untreated acrylic is horrific bad about building up static.  I'm assuming if you bought it, it's been treated.

Also, you might want to make sure that there is a grounding strap between at least the powersupply case and one of the motherboard standoffs, if it's something you built.   I can see from the earlier post that you live on the edge, but it's always frustrating to have something blow regardless of whether it's "My Precious" or "Just another toy".

All just FWIW and IMO, of course.

<S>!

i didn't know it had to be treated, thanks for the tip!  =P
its home-made, and i got the acrylic from some guy who made huge advertising signs out of it. i had 1/4" high rubber standoffs underneath it actually.
my problem with the set-up is the 4-pin cpu power socket on the board. it  :furious melted :furious while doing a mild wprime 1024 bench at 3.7/1.35(cpu) and 2.8/1.3(cpu-nb).
it's probably a fluke/mobo defect since the power draw wasnt even much. i still have to rma the board tomorrow and prolly sell the brand new one they give me back. i picked up the full-atx msi board instead.


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Title: Re: 3DMark 2006 Bench
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 21, 2009, 12:10:33 AM
That can happen if the connector was not properly plugged in. A bad connection will cause heat. Loosened connectors are a serious fire hazard in factories for example, which is why every year an inspection team will retighten all cable connections routinely.