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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AKP on August 24, 2009, 09:41:28 AM
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THIS IS A TRUE STORY...
A few weeks ago I was vacationing in New Mexico and Colorado with my kids. On one day, we were heading up to Pike's Peak to take the train to the summit.
On the way, I pointed out the van window and said "See the mountain up there with no trees on the top?"
My son replied, "Yea".
"That's where we are going," I Continued, "That's Pike's Peak".
So then he asks "Why are there no trees up there?'
I reply, "Well... the air is too thin for trees to live up there."
After a long pause from the back of the van, he asks another question, "And we are going up there.... why?"
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ROFL...sometimes the kids have the right outlook on things. :rofl
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LOL you should have answered him with - to meet God!
:lol :lol
opposum
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The classic reply would be, "Because its there!"... Leave him with a question to ponder for the rest of his life!
RC
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Proper response.
Because that's the best place to throw kids off of a mountian. No trees to slow them down.
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I was in New Mexico and Colorado on the first week of August. my parents lives in Gallup, NM and we went to Droango for a few days.
Anyway, your reason for the absents of trees on top of the mountain (ecological term:tree line) is good but unfortunately not the case. The reason for the absents of trees that high is due to the extreme cold weather. Air has nothing to do with it. If you have been observant, you should have recognized small vegetation on the top of the mountain like flowers, grass and brush.
While up there, did you see a group of pinus species that are short but have a big base. They are called Bristlrcone pine. In your case, Rocky Mountains Bristlecone Pine (Pinus aristata) They are found in vary high altitude 2500 - 3700m in cold dry climate. They can live for over 1500 years, the oldest recorded is 2, 435 years old on Mt. Evens. Their sister tree, Great Basin Bristlecone Pine (Pinus longaeva) have been document to live longer with the oldest around 4,700 years old.
Anywho, my wife was as Pikes Peak a few years ago and went on that cable cart ride. During the ride, one of the passengers asked the tour guild, "How high dose a deer have to been to become a elk"? I would have toss that person out of the cart for a dumb question like that.
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:O :huh :confused: :rolleyes: oakranger were you in a hurry or watching television while trying to type?
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I was in New Mexico and Colorado on the first week of August. my parents lives in Gallup, NM and we went to Droango for a few days.
Anyway, your reason for the absents of trees on top of the mountain (ecological term:tree line) is good but unfortunately not the case. The reason for the absents of trees that high is due to the extreme cold weather. Air has nothing to do with it. If you have been observant, you should have recognized small vegetation on the top of the mountain like flowers, grass and brush.
While up there, did you see a group of pinus species that are short but have a big base. They are called Bristlrcone pine. In your case, Rocky Mountains Bristlecone Pine (Pinus aristata) They are found in vary high altitude 2500 - 3700m in cold dry climate. They can live for over 1500 years, the oldest recorded is 2, 435 years old on Mt. Evens. Their sister tree, Great Basin Bristlecone Pine (Pinus longaeva) have been document to live longer with the oldest around 4,700 years old.
Anywho, my wife was as Pikes Peak a few years ago and went on that cable cart ride. During the ride, one of the passengers asked the tour guild, "How high dose a deer have to been to become a elk"? I would have toss that person out of the cart for a dumb question like that.
Hehe... then we were in the same area at the same time. We were at Philmont Scout Ranch in Cimarron for a week. Anyway... I wasnt sure if it was the thin air, the cold, or the combination of both. Just seemed like the best answer to give him at the time.
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Hehe... then we were in the same area at the same time. We were at Philmont Scout Ranch in Cimarron for a week. Anyway... I wasnt sure if it was the thin air, the cold, or the combination of both. Just seemed like the best answer to give him at the time.
Cool. No worries. Most ppl who think of the same reason too.
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When I was a teenager living in Avenel,NJ ,we used to go hang out and drink beer at a cemetary in Woodbridge.
Our favorite spot in the cemetary was at the tombstone of Zebulon Pike.
On the "kids say the darndest things" side: I read my 4 year old to sleep one night. When I went in to wake him in the morning, his response was, "wow, that was a quick night!"
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Hehe... then we were in the same area at the same time. We were at Philmont Scout Ranch in Cimarron for a week. Anyway... I wasnt sure if it was the thin air, the cold, or the combination of both. Just seemed like the best answer to give him at the time.
Philmont - what a great opportunity - did he love it?
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Philmont - what a great opportunity - did he love it?
Oh yea! I go every 2 years to the Training Center at Philmont. While I am there, both of my kids are in programs designed for their age. My son, 11, is too young to go on a trek yet... but he did get to do an overnighter in the backcountry, and got to see a lot of the area. On the night they went into the backcountry, his group did 10 miles in... and 10 miles out the next day. My daughter, 14, did 7 days of COPE courses, trail riding, and hikes.
On the Training Center side, they get to do all that stuff, while I am in leaders conferences. But we eat our meals together, and we sleep in cabin tents all week.
They are already asking when are we going back... and I cant wait until he's 14 and we can do a real Philmont trek. I did one when I was 14.
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Latitude has just as much to do with it as altitude. Go to Canada and trees don't grow at 7k ft.
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Latitude has just as much to do with it as altitude. Go to Canada and trees don't grow at 7k ft.
If you are referring to the thinning of the air and plants ability to grow. Once agiane, there is NO correlation at all. It has to do with how planes evolved and adapt to the environment.
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:lol Nice!
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If you are referring to the thinning of the air and plants ability to grow. Once agiane, there is NO correlation at all. It has to do with how planes evolved and adapt to the environment.
No kidding. Ever notice it gets colder the further north you go?
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Yea.
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When I was a teenager living in Avenel,NJ ,we used to go hang out and drink beer at a cemetary in Woodbridge.
Our favorite spot in the cemetary was at the tombstone of Zebulon Pike.
On the "kids say the darndest things" side: I read my 4 year old to sleep one night. When I went in to wake him in the morning, his response was, "wow, that was a quick night!"
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That reminds me of something I've experienced but most people I talk to never have. Hasn't happened to me since I was a kid, usually when my family was traveling and I was trying to sleep in an unfamiliar bed. I'd lay awake for a while, then I'd blink - and it would literally be the next morning. It felt like (to me) like I never slept at all. Your son may have experienced something like that. I'm tempted to google it... Actually I just googled 'blink sleep' and nothing came up.
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I loved my time spent at Philmont. I litterally have a dozen other great stories from my time spent there. The skies up there are SO clear that you can see satellites move across the sky. I never KNEW there were so many stars.
Three quick Philmont stories from when I went hiking there as a Scout.
When you arrive at Philmont, and before they let you go hike, one of the resident staff members will give your group a little talk and go over basic safety rules, etc, etc.
It is normal for them to take somebodies pack and go through what they brought with them and say what is good, what is bad, what they need, etc, etc.
In the group RIGHT next to ours the staff member had one of the fathers packs out and was going over its contents. One of the last things he pulled from the guys pack was a Linda Love Doll.
When asked by the staff member what the HECK that was the guy replied "That is my drop cloth".
A couple scouts from my troop went off in the woods to smoke a joint. They ran across a freshly killed male Elk. The blood was still warm it was so recently killed. For reasons unknown these two decided they just HAD to have the antlers so they grabed the antlers and twisted the Elks head off.
About this time the bear that had killed the Elk, who was off in the bushes watching them, decided it didn't like them taking its kills head and came out of the bushes pissed.
Flash to me and everybody else sitting at the campsite and hearing yelling. Looking up we see these two scouts come running out of the woods holding a bloody Elks head by the antlers shouting "BEAR! BEAR! BEAR" and went flying past us. Not that far behind them came the black bear loping along and making angry bear noises.
Several of the adults shouted to the boys to just drop the damn head which they finally did. The bear stopped where the head had fallen, sniffed it a few times and headed back into the woods.
Those two scouts carried those antlers for the next week only to have them taken from them at the end of the hike. You are not allowed to take antlers out of Philmont. I imagine they are on that huge archway of antlers at the entrance.
(I tried to find a pic. of that archway on Google. Did they take it down? It's been 20yrs since i've been there)
I was out late one night to take a leak. I walked a bit from the campsite and relieved myself on a tree. I heard a scraping sound and held still looking about. After a few min. I finally saw a bear climbing a nearby tree. The tree was right next to our Bear Bag and this bear climbed a good 10-15' higher than the bag which was around 20' off the ground.
A Bear Bag, for those that don't know, is a bag that you fill up with anything "smelly" that might attract a bear. You then string it up on a rope between two trees so it hangs there between the trees and the bear can't reach it.
So as I am standing there watching this bear climb and it finally stops. It sat there for a min. and then it LAUNCHES itself from the tree and tried to grab our Bear Bag on the way down. It missed and landed which a very large thwacking crunchy kinda nose.
I thought the bear MUST be dead. Nope, only stunned. After a min. the bear raised up, shook itself, and walked off into the woods.
One of the more bizarre things I have ever witnessed.
(Sigh... good times...)
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Oakranger,
So how did planes evolve? Did they fly out of the ocean fully formed or merely taxi out then grow wings later on? On which continent did the planes evolve and do we have to refer to them as native planes if they are still found there? What was Darwin's take on the evolution of planes, was it survival of the flightiest or highest mating flights?
:huh
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Hehe... then we were in the same area at the same time. We were at Philmont Scout Ranch in Cimarron for a week. Anyway... I wasnt sure if it was the thin air, the cold, or the combination of both. Just seemed like the best answer to give him at the time.
Philmont, hooah to you good sir! :salute
Best pizza I ate in my life was in Cimarron :D .
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I was out late one night to take a leak. I walked a bit from the campsite and relieved myself on a tree. I heard a scraping sound and held still looking about. After a few min. I finally saw a bear climbing a nearby tree. The tree was right next to our Bear Bag and this bear climbed a good 10-15' higher than the bag which was around 20' off the ground.
A Bear Bag, for those that don't know, is a bag that you fill up with anything "smelly" that might attract a bear. You then string it up on a rope between two trees so it hangs there between the trees and the bear can't reach it.
So as I am standing there watching this bear climb and it finally stops. It sat there for a min. and then it LAUNCHES itself from the tree and tried to grab our Bear Bag on the way down. It missed and landed which a very large thwacking crunchy kinda nose.
I thought the bear MUST be dead. Nope, only stunned. After a min. the bear raised up, shook itself, and walked off into the woods.
One of the more bizarre things I have ever witnessed.
Thats funny
Oakranger,
So how did planes evolve? Did they fly out of the ocean fully formed or merely taxi out then grow wings later on? On which continent did the planes evolve and do we have to refer to them as native planes if they are still found there? What was Darwin's take on the evolution of planes, was it survival of the flightiest or highest mating flights?
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Read Darwin book "On the Origin of Species". I am not going to wast my time trying to explained the topic of evolution of plants. especially to somebody who doesn't believe in evolution.
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Seriously guy, I know it's just the internet and a stupid gaming forum, but would it kill you to spell check or look at the screen occasionally? Your posts are almost painful to read.