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Title: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: Nemisis on August 24, 2009, 06:54:45 PM
Just got back, and there are some seriously stupid things going on. First off: they have a fully functioning .30cal mg behind normal glass, with a couple of belts. I would lol if someone took it. They say it cost them 12,000$ as it was an originol M1930A or whatever that browning .30 cal was called, and it was functioning when they recived it. I can not be sure of this, but that is what one of the guides or the workers or whatever they are told me.
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: PFactorDave on August 24, 2009, 07:28:09 PM
Are you sure the ammo is live?  Dummy ammo for guns like that is really easy to come by.
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: Nemisis on August 24, 2009, 08:11:29 PM
It didn't have amunition but it was just a glass cover on a box. No lock, I slid it half an inch looking in! I am sorry but since it was a 30-06 mg ammo is easy as hell to buy, that is bordering on neglegence. Sorry for any spelling errors if any, I am using an i phone.
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: Fencer51 on August 24, 2009, 08:20:00 PM
(Thief walking out of the Museum with 30cal MG under a sweater)

"No, nothing for me thanks!"

Seriously, just because some guide said it was active does not mean that it is. 

The ammo is almost guarranteed to be dummy ammo.  Also they most likely removed the firing pin and the internal mechanisms to disable the gun.

Now, at the USAFM they got a Mk108 setting out in the middle of the floor.  Now that is dangerous.. never know when someone has a 30mm shell in their purse.
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: Nemisis on August 24, 2009, 08:36:33 PM
Yes, firing pin was probably removed, no ammo with it, but a box of 500 30-06 rounds is like 40$ at cabelas. And the firing pin is a pretty easy problem to get around. The real problem would be someone taking it and geting it to fire, and THEN going and roving a bank. A security guard won't get in the way of a guy with an mg.
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: Golfer on August 24, 2009, 08:54:57 PM
Yes, firing pin was probably removed, no ammo with it, but a box of 500 30-06 rounds is like 40$ at cabelas. And the firing pin is a pretty easy problem to get around. The real problem would be someone taking it and geting it to fire, and THEN going and roving a bank. A security guard won't get in the way of a guy with an mg.

PLEASE tell me where you can buy ammunition in any caliber outside of a .22LR for that price.  It sure as hell isn't Cabelas.

The government has very tight restrictions on what/where fully automatic weapons like that go.  Very likely it has been demilled or completely deactivated for display.  So what you have is a big paperweight which can't shoot anything more deadly than a spitwad because the operator found a covered straw nearby.

In short what they have is what looks and used to be a Browning .30 Caliber machine gun on display and nothing more.
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: Roscoroo on August 25, 2009, 12:35:56 AM
they ussually have the pins removed... now why the hell did ya go visit here without telling the rest of us Seattlites (theres a whole gang of us here in AH)
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: phatzo on August 25, 2009, 12:51:17 AM
geeeeeez
We get ripped off here, a box of 20 30-06 rounds 10 years ago when I had mine was about $25.00 aus and you guys can get a box of 500 for $40.00 US now. No wonder there is an ammo shortage.
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: Spikes on August 25, 2009, 01:10:43 AM
PLEASE tell me where you can buy ammunition in any caliber outside of a .22LR for that price.  It sure as hell isn't Cabelas.

Yeah thats what I was thinking...I'd like to pick up some .270 and .243 if it's that cheap. Heheh.
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: Nemisis on August 25, 2009, 12:23:58 PM
geeeeeez
We get ripped off here, a box of 20 30-06 rounds 10 years ago when I had mine was about $25.00 aus and you guys can get a box of 500 for $40.00 US now. No wonder there is an ammo shortage.


wait, sorry, it was 250 rounds for 40$. I think it was a huge sale though.
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: PFactorDave on August 25, 2009, 12:40:29 PM
It's actually really easy to get your hands on a de-milled 30 cal machine gun.  My brother and a good friend of his recently built a "tribute" truck to take to car shows and parades etc.  It's not easy to see in this photo, but they built a turret with a 30 cal gun on the bed of the truck.  Bought the de-milled 30 cal on e-bay.  Also, they built some 30 cal barrels into the front fenders if you look closely. There are bombs hanging just in front of the rear wheels too, lol.

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/Davis_Andrews/IMG_1443.jpg)

They put an aircraft dashboard and controls into the cab of the truck too.

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/Davis_Andrews/IMG_1452.jpg)
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: Masherbrum on August 25, 2009, 01:30:17 PM
Just got back, and there are some seriously stupid things going on. First off: they have a fully functioning .30cal mg behind normal glass, with a couple of belts. I would lol if someone took it. They say it cost them 12,000$ as it was an originol M1930A or whatever that browning .30 cal was called, and it was functioning when they recived it. I can not be sure of this, but that is what one of the guides or the workers or whatever they are told me.

I'd be shocked if you were over 18 years of age.    Regardless, you must be a masochist.   
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: rshubert on August 25, 2009, 02:03:56 PM
Yes, firing pin was probably removed, no ammo with it, but a box of 500 30-06 rounds is like 40$ at cabelas. And the firing pin is a pretty easy problem to get around. The real problem would be someone taking it and geting it to fire, and THEN going and roving a bank. A security guard won't get in the way of a guy with an mg.

I can see it now, "skippy" walking into the Bank of America branch brandishing a .30 cal browning MG.  Oh, come on.  Bank robbery is best done with a small, concealable pistol, or JUST PUT YOUR HAND IN YOUR POCKET and claim to have one.  When is the last time you saw a guard in a bank, anyway?  I don't remember the last time.  Except on TV.  That's because all banks have a policy of giving a robber anything he wants, no discussion, no argument.  It's only money, and it's insured.

Full auto weapons are legal, nemisis.  There are almost 100,000 fully transferrable full auto weapons out there in the USA right now--and none of them are being used to rob a bank or liquor store.  If some "playa" is using one for that purpose, it is no doubt (easily) converted from a perfectly legal semi-auto weapon.
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: Maverick on August 25, 2009, 06:01:36 PM
Just got back, and there are some seriously stupid things going on. First off: they have a fully functioning .30cal mg behind normal glass, with a couple of belts. I would lol if someone took it. They say it cost them 12,000$ as it was an originol M1930A or whatever that browning .30 cal was called, and it was functioning when they recived it. I can not be sure of this, but that is what one of the guides or the workers or whatever they are told me.

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

That's the funniest troll I've seen here in a LONG time. I am assuming it to be a troll as it's simply too silly to be anything but.

If you really want to see a bunch of firearms of just about any type, go visit the Buffalo Bill Museum in Cody Wyoming. They have tons of them behind glass as well as just out in the open. It doesn't mean you are going to be able to go buy ammo and hold up a bank with them though.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: Nemisis on August 25, 2009, 06:10:30 PM
I can see it now, "skippy" walking into the Bank of America branch brandishing a .30 cal browning MG.  Oh, come on.  Bank robbery is best done with a small, concealable pistol, or JUST PUT YOUR HAND IN YOUR POCKET and claim to have one.  When is the last time you saw a guard in a bank, anyway?  I don't remember the last time.  Except on TV.  That's because all banks have a policy of giving a robber anything he wants, no discussion, no argument.  It's only money, andI it's insured.

Full auto weapons are legal, nemisis.  There are almost 100,000 fully transferrable full auto weapons out there in the USA right now--and none of them are being used to rob a bank or liquor store.  If some "playa" is using one for that purpose, it is no doubt (easily) converted from a perfectly legal semi-auto weapon.
Actually I saw one last week. I was caching a check and he was standing to the left of the counter. While robbery IS best comited with a small weapon, it can be done with an mg. And an auto weapon discourages pursuit better than a 22 pistol. And as for the lack of thefts aided by automatic weapons, if you have to steal money then you wouldn't be purchasing an M16.
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: RipChord929 on August 25, 2009, 06:13:52 PM
There are lots of those M1919a3's and a4's around...
Fully operating as well... Some semi, Some full auto...
Nemesis must be overly sheltered by his parents!!!

And it would take a fool to try to rob a bank with one, LOL!!!
But it would work pretty good in a getaway vehicle tho!!!

RC
Title: Re: Seattle air museum trip.
Post by: Nemisis on August 25, 2009, 10:21:24 PM
There are lots of those M1919a3's and a4's around...
Fully operating as well... Some semi, Some full auto...
Nemesis must be overly sheltered by his parents!!!

And it would take a fool to try to rob a bank with one, LOL!!!
But it would work pretty good in a getaway vehicle tho!!!

RC

Yes it would.

And yes it would be stupid, but I have seen some messed up stuff. Once at the local middle school back 3 yrs ago, the students were having a Drun Abuse Resistance Education assembly, or sceminar, or whatever they are calling it now. Apperantly some 9th grader that skiped school got hi, and hijacked the DARE car (a police car with hotrod flames and the word DARE painted on the sides) and crashed it into the school's office. I saw it when I drove in to town, and I thought "What the hell happened to the schoo!?"

And about 7yrs to late for that to be possible.

Whenever I get annoyed at traffic, I wish I had a Mk108 instaled in the car.

Other than the easily stealable collectors items (M1903 springfield, Spandau MG, Lewis gun, german artillerymans luger, etc.), the only other thing that makes me kinda disapointed is the lack of a 190 in the museu, replica or otherwise. But they did have a German V1. and an allegedly fully working Folker D VII, a Ativack, a Sopwith Camel, and an Se.5a.f