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Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: brady on November 12, 2000, 01:38:00 AM
  I was wondering if anybody new if the wep on the N1K2 in the game is Methanol(MW50), my book on the George, Aero Detail 26 Shiden kai, shows that on the surviving examples in the US (3 out of the 4 taken from Japan and shipped hear for evaluation) were equipped with this,their is photographic evidence on multiple Aircraft.
  Also the book states that 4 60kg or 2 250kg bombs could be caried.The four smaller ones would be kind of nice to carry on JABO missions sometimes.
  The book also shows that the inboard gun had 200 rounds and the outboard 250 rounds,for a total for all 4 guns as 900rds.
  This book is filled with very detailed photos of these planes taken in the various museums where these planes are on display, I highly recommend it,they have a whole series of these books on  all sorts of planes.

         Brady
Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: SOB on November 12, 2000, 06:29:00 AM
Where did you buy this book?  I'm very interested!
Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: brady on November 12, 2000, 09:25:00 AM
  Bridge town hobbies on sandie blvd (I think it's sandy?) anyway their in the phone book, or call 203-264-0774, that's the # for the publisher U can get it from them,or they can direct U to one.
  Bridge town hobbies is great for war games and models, they also have a very extensive book selection, been going their since I was 5 years old.

     Brady
Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: SOB on November 12, 2000, 01:07:00 PM
Heh...didn't even notice you were from Tigard!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)  I'll have to head down to Portland during the day tomorrow, Thanks!  I'm in Beaverton.


SOB
Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: hazed- on November 12, 2000, 06:21:00 PM
any isbn numbers?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: brady on November 12, 2000, 06:59:00 PM
 Hear is the ISBN # for the book by team on the Frank,499-22684-8, oddly enough the number is written on a little card and the one for the book on the George is missing (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif).however they ar part of the same series so if u can track down one i am sure u will be able to find the other.
   They are written in Japanese with English in the margins.

     Brady
Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: Pyro on November 13, 2000, 10:31:00 AM
The Ki-84(using the same Homare engine) had water injection as well.  Ammo load on the George has been discussed in another thread and that's something I'll be changing in the next version.  However, the Aero Detail is not exactly a good source for this information as they cite about 3 different ammunition capacities throughout the book.



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Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: Nath-BDP on November 13, 2000, 12:56:00 PM
Hrmm... the Ki.84s didn't use Homare powerplants unless the Ha-45(Army Type 4) 23 is the IJAAF name for the NK9H Homare 21?
Looking at the HP output it doesn't seem so.

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Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: Nath-BDP on November 13, 2000, 12:57:00 PM
p.s. The A6M6c with the Sakae 31 had methanol/water injection.
Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: brady on November 13, 2000, 07:13:00 PM
  Nath.. They are the same engine,The Japanese army and navy had the mother of all service rivalries going on, they used totally different designation systems.
  And as Pyro was kind enough to point out both had Methanol injection systems.
  It would be cool if we get the 4 60kg bombs for the George it would make it nice for flak diving (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

    Brady
Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: juzz on November 13, 2000, 09:23:00 PM
Nakajima HK9H Homare 21 = Nakajima Ha-45 Model 21
Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: -lazs- on November 14, 2000, 08:17:00 AM
TAIC manual lists bomb load of 2 60kg bombs and it lists water injection.  Top speed 370mph
lazs
Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: brady on November 14, 2000, 09:34:00 AM
  It depends on the variant:
  N1K1-J&Ja,2 250kg or 2 60kg & drop tank
 
  N1k1-Jc,N1K2-Ja 4 250kg(or 4 60kg bombs*)
 

         Source:Japanese Aircraft of the Pacific War,by Rene J Francillon

  Aero Detail 26,SHIDEN-KAI,shows these 60kg bombs on the aircraft outer wing.

             Brady
Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: Spritle on November 14, 2000, 02:04:00 PM
You can get all of the Aero Detail books mail order from www.hlj.com (http://www.hlj.com)

Spritle
Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: SkViper on November 16, 2000, 12:27:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by SOB:
Where did you buy this book?  I'm very interested!

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Title: N1K2-J"George" SHIDEN-KAI and MW-50
Post by: SOB on November 16, 2000, 12:50:00 PM
Thank you very much  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)