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Title: My First Guitar!
Post by: mike254 on August 27, 2009, 07:51:45 PM
Just bought an acoustic guitar. Been wanting to learn how to play for a while. Better late than never.






(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv197/RedRaider43/IMG_1427.jpg)

So far I have learned 4 things:

1. It's hard
2. My fingers hurt
3. I suck
4. How to make alot of random noise


Now I'm off to watch some guitar lesson DVD's...  :rock

Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: DaveJ on August 27, 2009, 07:53:50 PM
Have fun down a long and hard road, Mikeypoo!  :)
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Mustaine on August 27, 2009, 08:01:59 PM
learn to properly tune it, practice de-tuning then re-tuning it.

Also practice re-stringing it and properly stretching the strings. nothing sounds worse than an out of tune guitar.

To work on dexterity and getting those callouses nothing is better than this simple exercise:
Starting on the low E index finger on fret 1 alternate pick and put down the next finger on fret 2, up to the pinky on the fourth, then go up the 5th string and so on. Once you get to the high E shift your pinky to the fifth fret and go backwards. Pinky down to index ending on the second fret. move down the strings to the low E and shift up with the index now starting on the third fret.

Work your up the fretboard to the 12th, and then work your way back down. Remember to alternate the pick up - down. Once you get fast with that you can try doing it skipping your middle finger. Then skip the ring finger, try all variations.



good luck, have fun!
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: 1pLUs44 on August 27, 2009, 08:07:16 PM
An electric and an amp may be easier on your fingers, in the short run.

Hope you have fun.

I learned "Hurt" by Johnny Cash today, it just kind of hit me too. Wasn't even listening to the song, nor had listened to it in a while.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: trigger2 on August 27, 2009, 09:03:56 PM
Guitar's a fun one, but it's a pain when you don't have calluses. ;)
Learn tabs! One of the best ways to learn anything you want - www.ultimate-guitar.com
Enjoy, it's a long, winding, fun road. :D
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Stalwart on August 27, 2009, 09:19:53 PM
 :aok  Congratulations!~

Check out this link to get some free lessons on the basics:

http://www.guitartricks.com (http://www.guitartricks.com)

 :rock
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: texastc316 on August 27, 2009, 09:43:37 PM
you will wear your streering wheel out in your car playing steering guitar now. Have fun with it.  Started playing in 87, and still suck.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Stalwart on August 27, 2009, 10:14:10 PM
  Started playing in 87, and still suck.

:lol    Started in '81 and feel the same way you do!~    Ha 
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: xNOVAx on August 27, 2009, 10:21:44 PM
Drums are cooler..  :rock
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: phatzo on August 27, 2009, 10:24:21 PM
I was given the same exercise that Mustaine was talking about when I was about 12, it was long monotonous and everyone hated the sound, but now 30 years later I can just pick up a guitar and play what ever I want. I can poke Satan in the eye with the fingers on my left hand too.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: phatzo on August 27, 2009, 10:29:57 PM
pick up - down. Once you get fast with that you can try doing it skipping your middle finger. Then skip the ring finger, try all variations.




Try string skipping to help your accuracy on your picking hand
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on August 27, 2009, 10:46:15 PM
This was my first guitar:

(http://www.singnplay.com/images/bcrich/ironbird.jpg)

I knew I wanted to play, so I went out and bought exactly what I wanted.

Self-taught.... Play my own music...


The best thing for my playing has been trying to work out songs by ear.

Getting a feel for the notes is more important than playing ability, I think.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Stalwart on August 27, 2009, 11:06:03 PM
This was my first guitar:

I never had a B.C. Rich, but when I was fourteen I kept their catalog between my mattresses.  ;)
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Latrobe on August 27, 2009, 11:07:49 PM
Just bought an acoustic guitar. Been wanting to learn how to play for a while. Better late than never.






(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv197/RedRaider43/IMG_1427.jpg)

So far I have learned 4 things:

1. It's hard
2. My fingers hurt
3. I suck
4. How to make alot of random noise


Now I'm off to watch some guitar lesson DVD's...  :rock



 :lol What I learned when I got my first Drumset
1. It's REALLY hard
2. I suck
3. I'm out of shape ( :( ;)  )
4. How to wake up my house in 5 seconds  :D
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on August 27, 2009, 11:15:32 PM
I never had a B.C. Rich, but when I was fourteen I kept their catalog between my mattresses.  ;)

Hahahaha.


The Ironbird sounds great but it's a bit of a bastid to play.

It's nice and light, feels great but the neck-drop is shocking.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: 100Coogn on August 27, 2009, 11:55:14 PM
Have fun with it Mike.  Myself I love playing a good ol' flat top.  You can take it with you on a moments notice, and play anytime/anywhere you'd like.  Unlike drums...(kind of a lot of crap to get together)

Coogan
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: mike254 on August 28, 2009, 12:01:46 AM
Thanks guys. I really look forward to being able to play this thing.  :D
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: phatzo on August 28, 2009, 12:04:26 AM
I never had a B.C. Rich, but when I was fourteen I kept their catalog between my mattresses.  ;)
hahaha I kept the Kramer and the Charvel Jackson catalogues under my mattress.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: DMBEAR on August 28, 2009, 01:23:12 AM
Wtg on the guitar mike.  Hopefully your guitar skills will increase and our kills will increase.

I never had a B.C. Rich, but when I was fourteen I kept their catalog between my mattresses.  ;)

Don't feel sorry for Stalwart.  He's my older brother and can play great.  He just happenend to know a lot of other talented people and is humble.  :aok

On top of that he was "loaned"(given) a Gibson Les Paul 20+years ago that is sweeter than any chick on the planet.  hmmm lemme think about that statement...Well, I stick by that.  That guitar is sweet.  It was owned by Peter Frampton.  Mother of pearl on the neck.  Heavy body.  Dang.  He even put flat wound strings on it to make it the smoothest thing I've ever come across.  

Further, he let me borrow it in 2001.  I had it a few years.  What a beast.  Can you imagine letting your little bro borrow something like that?

I took it in for a tune up to a guy in Dallas that worked on a lot of Les Pauls.  He loved it.

The best thing about it is that it gets played.  It's not in a glass case, it gets used.

 :rock   :rock   :rock



Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: FiLtH on August 28, 2009, 05:47:18 AM
  Remember theres more to a song than just the lead. Develop rythym.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Stampf on August 28, 2009, 05:54:37 AM
Guitars are like women.

One is good, two are better,...and it just keeps getting better after that.  :aok


(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/stampf/DSC01082.jpg)
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: SEraider on August 28, 2009, 11:35:54 AM
Learn the Am and Cm open chords:

Am            Cm

0               0
1               1
2               0
2               2
0               3
don't touch the E string (thickest).

Strum: down down up (pause), up down up.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: infowars on August 28, 2009, 11:51:31 AM
Don't give up either.  It really does take hard work to learn how to play.  You're fingers will stop hurting I promise.  Learn on an acoustic and you'll shred on an electric.

Congrats bro...
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: shiv on August 28, 2009, 12:04:23 PM
That's a nice guitar.  Used to have a couple of Ibanez electrics, loved them.

It gets a lot easier after your left hand gets used to making the chords.  After a few months it starts to come naturally.

I learned by picking up little bass riffs - Smoke on the Water, Dazed & Confused  - while learning the chords at the same time.  This way I was able to keep myself amused when I wasn't practicing chord shapes. 

You can play some rudimentary blues riffs too just using the top two strings.   Strum both, keeping the top one open and alternate between 2 and 4 on the A string, throwing in 5 for a turnaround.

Then after a few months you learn the hard thing isn't the left hand at all, it's the strumming and picking with the right hand.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: trigger2 on August 28, 2009, 12:52:24 PM
Guitars are like women.

One is good, two are better,...and it just keeps getting better after that.  :aok


(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/stampf/DSC01082.jpg)

And just why do you have that Jackson hiding in the back? Sheesh...

My first guitar, Gibson Billie Joe Sig Series
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.punknews.org/images/interviews/armstrong_lp_jr_vs.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.punknews.org/article/19560&usg=__lJzj6Vi10zrjsP_I8sjtLXvafko=&h=488&w=300&sz=13&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=2rBEg6AyrtyR3M:&tbnh=130&tbnw=80&prev=/images%3Fq%3DGibson%2BBillie%2BJoe%2BSig%2BSeries%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBR_enUS315US316%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

Sold that and got my Takamine acoustic and Ibanez GRX20. :D
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on August 28, 2009, 11:43:49 PM
Another tip is that it is always better to play for 15 minutes every day than it is to play for hours once a week.

Get your fingers fretting notes, forming chords and get your strumming hand coordinated with your fret hand.

Have a guitar in your hand as often as you can. Even if you're not practicing hard, just keep your hands moving. 
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Mustaine on August 29, 2009, 11:42:36 PM
Another tip is that it is always better to play for 15 minutes every day than it is to play for hours once a week.

Get your fingers fretting notes, forming chords and get your strumming hand coordinated with your fret hand.

Have a guitar in your hand as often as you can. Even if you're not practicing hard, just keep your hands moving. 

SO true...

Years ago I would do the progression I mentioned all the time, whenever I was sitting watching TV, whatever. My girlfriend at the time would let me do it even when watching a movie together lol...

one day my guitar broke and for about 2 months I was going nuts, didn't have the money to fix it.... She got so sick of me fidgeting she bought me a guitar just so I could keep doing that stuff ROFL.
 
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: texasmom on August 29, 2009, 11:44:08 PM
Have fun with it! :)
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: phatzo on August 30, 2009, 06:09:25 AM
and make sure you learn some Nigel Tufnel quotes.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Speed55 on August 30, 2009, 09:25:16 AM
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/speed55/Myaxes.jpg)

Buy a metronome

and do exercises like someone else said

 1.2.3.4 . 4.3.2.1 - move down a string and do it again until you get to the high e.  Then go 4.3.2.1 . 1.2.3.4 on every string up to the low e

Move up a fret and do it again. 

you can do any variation you like  for example -  1.2.1.4 . 1.3.1.4

Your fingers will hurt the first few days.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: bcadoo on August 30, 2009, 10:47:51 PM
Learn the Am and Cm open chords:

Am            Cm

0               0
1               1
2               0
2               2
0               3
don't touch the E string (thickest).

Strum: down down up (pause), up down up.

Hope that helps.


I don't think that C is minor....lookes like C major to me.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: BrownBaron on August 30, 2009, 10:57:34 PM
If ur fingers get real bad, get a little bottle of super glue, put it on ur finger tips, on ur right hand too if u pick with ur fingers, and let it dry a bit...should make ur skin both hard to the touch, and almost completely free of ur sense of touch.....

learn to read tabs,
i never lerned chords, and that worked out okay for me,
and finaly- have fun
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: 100Coogn on August 31, 2009, 03:54:56 AM
I don't think that C is minor....lookes like C major to me.

I have to agree there myself.  That is a 'C'  (C-Major)
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: VonMessa on August 31, 2009, 05:07:06 AM
I have to agree there myself.  That is a 'C'  (C-Major)


What he said.....


Good luck.  Learn some theory (and this coming from a drummer  :O )

I actually started by playing piano when I was 8.  Then guitar, bass and finally the drums by the time I was 20.

Learning some theory will help you understand the music.  Learning to read will help you learn music faster.  Once you can learn AND understand the music you will become more than just a guitar player (bassist, drummer, etc), you will be a musician.  Then you can play music with other like-minded people and speak the same language.

Lastly (IMO), two major things that make for a crappy guitar player

1) Learn to tune it !! (as stated in this thread there are not many things that sound worse than a poorly tuned axe)

2) Play with a metronome.  Yes, it blows.  Yes, its difficult. Yes, they are evil, but... The MOST annoying thing that can happen when playing with other musicians is playing with someone that has an undeveloped sense of timing.  Anyone that wants to argue that point (the metronome) and says it is not necessary has never been in a studio.  When you get in that booth and you are handed a chart and a pair of headphones, it can be intimidating, to say the least.  Especially when you don't get the benefit of backing tracks to play with.  You strap on those headphones and all you hear is......

CLICK, click, click, click, CLICK, click, click, click

You'll wish you had used that metronome.

A good example (and they aren't even my favorite band) is Malcom Young, the "other" brother in AC/DC.  I'll wager that someone with a rock solid sense of rhythm as keen as his can't be found in modern music.  He just OWNS it.

Keep on playing, bro.   :rock
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: lyric1 on August 31, 2009, 07:57:50 AM
My collection of Washburn PS2000's.

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8995/0003836.th.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/0003836.jpg/)

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9585/0003833.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/0003833.jpg/)

(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8030/0003832.th.jpg) (http://img106.imageshack.us/i/0003832.jpg/)
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on August 31, 2009, 09:50:57 AM

Lastly (IMO), two major things that make for a crappy guitar player

1) Learn to tune it !! (as stated in this thread there are not many things that sound worse than a poorly tuned axe)

2) Play with a metronome.  Yes, it blows.  Yes, its difficult. Yes, they are evil, but... The MOST annoying thing that can happen when playing with other musicians is playing with someone that has an undeveloped sense of timing. 

This is sound advice.

ALWAYS tune your guitar before you play. I practice with my band every week and the first thing we do is tune up through the same tuner. While our amps are warming up, we make sure that we are completely in tune with each other. We use my BOSS ME-50 pedal to tune and it's a ritual that must be done before a sound gets made.


Number two is just as important....

I can't even begin to explain my frustration with that factor. We've had to boot TWO guitarists recently. After going to all the trouble to train them up.... we figured out that whilst they can play really well by themselves... they just can't bloody play with anyone else.

It was annoying because one was a friend who we stuck with, despite his poor performance, for years. Because he was such a good friend we let a lot of things slide....

It all came to a head when one our other members said it "It's me or him".... and the other member was a great musician, reliable and contributed to 50% of the writing process.

He ended up leaving anyway, but we just weren't active enough to satisfy him, so I understand his decision.


It took us so f- king long to find another guitarist who could cut it.... and we don't even play technical music. It's supposed to be minimalistic.

We played as a 3-piece for so long (me playing guitar, the singer and a drummer).... now we have a guitarist who plays really well and is a great bloke.


I just got home from practice, actually, and if I'm honest, I never played to a metronome and I haven't been practicing much to do with precise timing (for solos and stuff).

It really showed, tonight. I need to crack the whip on myself and get back on top of it.

I like to think that I've got a bit of a natural ability with timing and a bit of an 'ear'.... I'm no guitar wizard and don't try to be, but I can play and I can play in time.

I write songs with little to no theory at all.... just by ear.

I don't know any chords or anything like that... but the only music I play is supposed to be a bit..... chit... for lack of a better word. It's not about being Mozart or Yngwie Malmsteen...
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on August 31, 2009, 09:52:30 AM
My collection of Washburn PS2000's.

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8995/0003836.th.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/0003836.jpg/)

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9585/0003833.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/0003833.jpg/)

(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8030/0003832.th.jpg) (http://img106.imageshack.us/i/0003832.jpg/)


Haha! My brother would love that Kiss one.

I just emailed it to him.

Nice guitars, Lyric. I didn't know you played!
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on August 31, 2009, 09:55:40 AM
Does anyone have expierence with re-locating strap buttons?

My Ironbird neck-dives like a cheap hooker.  :lol


You can see where the tail strap button is in this picture:

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i253/plague_06/Aguitar.jpg)

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: lyric1 on August 31, 2009, 09:58:22 AM

Haha! My brother would love that Kiss one.

I just emailed it to him.

Nice guitars, Lyric. I didn't know you played!
There all Kiss ones :) No idea how to play don't even own an Amp. Just for collection purposes. Wanted an Ibanez PS10 when I was a kid for $500.00 my mother of course said no. Now mint PS10's about 8K or so. Won't make the same mistake again. The flagged is one of only 6 the one with Stanley painted on it is 1 0f 1 and the Black Diamond is 76 of 100. All from the Washburn custom shop. Some pics of it being made at the factory.

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3831/84723389.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/84723389.jpg/)   (http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2609/getattch4.jpg) (http://img401.imageshack.us/i/getattch4.jpg/)


Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: 1Boner on August 31, 2009, 03:28:57 PM
Does anyone have expierence with re-locating strap buttons?

My Ironbird neck-dives like a cheap hooker.  :lol


You can see where the tail strap button is in this picture:

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i253/plague_06/Aguitar.jpg)

Any suggestions?

Whats the body made out of?
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on August 31, 2009, 09:34:05 PM
Whats the body made out of?

Basswood, I think.

Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on August 31, 2009, 09:36:56 PM
There all Kiss ones :) No idea how to play don't even own an Amp. Just for collection purposes. Wanted an Ibanez PS10 when I was a kid for $500.00 my mother of course said no. Now mint PS10's about 8K or so. Won't make the same mistake again. The flagged is one of only 6 the one with Stanley painted on it is 1 0f 1 and the Black Diamond is 76 of 100. All from the Washburn custom shop. Some pics of it being made at the factory.

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3831/84723389.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/84723389.jpg/)   (http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2609/getattch4.jpg) (http://img401.imageshack.us/i/getattch4.jpg/)




That's pretty impressive, mate.  :salute


You should learn! Guitar is easy.  :aok
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on August 31, 2009, 09:39:02 PM
I have to get one of these!

(http://www.promusicaustralia.com/cases/Coffin_Case/coffin_case.JPG)

 :lol
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: mike254 on August 31, 2009, 09:52:54 PM
I've taken the advice of a lot of people here, and I seem to be improving already. (I think) My fingers arent hurting as bad, and I can play the intro to a few Metallica songs! (Not really well and not the whole intro.  :D )

Thanks for the advice.  :aok
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: vorticon on August 31, 2009, 09:59:21 PM
This is sound advice.

ALWAYS tune your guitar before you play. I practice with my band every week and the first thing we do is tune up through the same tuner. While our amps are warming up, we make sure that we are completely in tune with each other. We use my BOSS ME-50 pedal to tune and it's a ritual that must be done before a sound gets made.

locking tremolo. last time i tuned was when i changed strings 2 months back, still perfect. not that i play a huge amount.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Grind on August 31, 2009, 10:14:10 PM
Hey Mike!  Playing the guitar is great fun!!!  Learn the open chords, bar chords and scales.  You will want to eventually play with other people too.... learn how to play the blues....everyone plays the blues.  Good luck to you!

<S>

Grind
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: B17Skull12 on September 01, 2009, 01:09:44 AM
well besides the fact that was c maj as someone pointed out.  Practice everyday if possible.  You don't have to be like me and take lessons for going on 4 years, but if you can take lessons.  They help a great deal.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: VonMessa on September 01, 2009, 08:03:25 AM
locking tremolo. last time i tuned was when i changed strings 2 months back, still perfect. not that i play a huge amount.

Do you live in a hermetically sealed, climate controlled box?

One where the temperature, humidity, and barometric pressure do not effect the length of your strings?
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Masherbrum on September 01, 2009, 08:31:41 AM
Do you live in a hermetically sealed, climate controlled box?

One where the temperature, humidity, and barometric pressure do not effect the length of your strings?

That's what I always thought too.    :confused:   
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on September 01, 2009, 09:34:31 AM
Do you live in a hermetically sealed, climate controlled box?

One where the temperature, humidity, and barometric pressure do not effect the length of your strings?

I case my guitars when I'm not playing them.... most of the time.

My Ironbird is a string-through with an adjustable bridge... It's never out by more than half a semi-tone after a week.

It's not too humid here, though.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on September 01, 2009, 09:40:44 AM
Also, this will sound a bit silly, but I think that really paying attention the drums in your favourite songs will help your playing.

When you're driving, instead of wanking about playing air-guitar at the lights.... 'play' the drums.

If you can keep yourself in time with the drums without a guitar it's that much easier to do it with a guitar.

I can't play the drums because I hate them... but I'll bash away at my desk or steering wheel and keep good time.

I've found that my playing has become more and more solid since I've started doing this frequently.

If I had the time and space, I'd set up a drum kit to muck about on.


If you think about it, drums are the core of pretty much any music you'll ever play.... the comfortable you are with them, the comfortable you'll be when you're playing with them.

 :aok
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: VonMessa on September 01, 2009, 12:50:37 PM
Drums without Bass is like...  lemme think

Eating a spoonful of Vegemite  (without spreading it on something)  :D

I'd rather play without the guitar or singer.

I hate not having a bass player
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: alskahawk on September 01, 2009, 03:02:03 PM
Drums without Bass is like...  lemme think

Eating a spoonful of Vegemite  (without spreading it on something)  :D

I'd rather play without the guitar or singer.

I hate not having a bass player

 "Drums without bass" Like not having a backbone.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: BrownBaron on September 01, 2009, 05:44:29 PM
My firsts:

http://en.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/EAA4VSCH1.JPG

and, What caused my love of SG's-

http://www.mydukkan.com/media/EpiphoneG400FlameTopElectricGuit-1.jpg

I loved that guitar... :rock
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: vorticon on September 01, 2009, 10:04:15 PM
Do you live in a hermetically sealed, climate controlled box?

One where the temperature, humidity, and barometric pressure do not effect the length of your strings?

i touch the fine tuners a couple times a month if i am playing lots or the weather is really changing. otherwise it stays where i put it.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: 1Boner on September 01, 2009, 10:15:17 PM
My Jackson Sl3 stays right in tune---a few very minor adjustments now and then.

My Gibson LP double cutaway stays dead on--no lock nut , and I do bend the neck quite a bit.

Still stays put.

Love that guitar. :rock
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: 1pLUs44 on September 01, 2009, 10:42:59 PM
Guitars are like women.

One is good, two are better,...and it just keeps getting better after that.  :aok


(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/stampf/DSC01082.jpg)

The Dean's a beaut Stampf.

Those have been the most reliable to me in the 5 short years I've been sucking at guitar.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: phatzo on September 02, 2009, 01:00:45 AM
Do you live in a hermetically sealed, climate controlled box?

One where the temperature, humidity, and barometric pressure do not effect the length of your strings?
I used to have an Ibanez Roadstar with a floyd rose locking tremolo and nut when I was playing gigs and I could put a set of strings on it, tune it, bend em in a bit, retune it, go to practice, do a gig or two and they would only need minor adjustments on the fine adjusters, unless we finished off with the extended guitar duel version of foxy lady, then it would be lucky to even have strings on it.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: SEraider on September 02, 2009, 10:51:46 AM
I don't think that C is minor....lookes like C major to me.


Yeah it was a typo, It's Cmaj.  Thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: alskahawk on September 02, 2009, 06:28:07 PM
Do you live in a hermetically sealed, climate controlled box?

One where the temperature, humidity, and barometric pressure do not effect the length of your strings?

 I have 12 guitars, most with Fender vintage trems,  couple of floyds. There are some that seem to need to be retuned every few days and others that just hold tune with just a minor tweaking.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Nwbie on September 04, 2009, 03:51:05 PM
Here is an online one for ya

http://www.metronomeonline.com/

Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: boomerlu on September 04, 2009, 04:04:17 PM
Mike:

My advice for somebody starting and still struggling with the physical (ie putting your fingers at the right place and right time) basically reflects the "boring exercise" advice. Train up on exercises and learn songs the easy way using tab.

Once your technique is sound enough that you can play a few things no problem, I recommend IMMEDIATELY working on developing your ear. Learn things by ear as much as possible. This will help you improvise and develop your intuition for composing (which I assume you will want to do at some point  ;) ).

On some personal notes:

I play a KE3 as my main guitar. I have this modified to hell, stripped paint, active pickup, Floyd Rose monstrosity that I absolutely love. It's a basic soloist/strat shape. I took several sheets of sand paper to the body and then applied some sealer afterwards. Looks awesome, sounds great.

I'm kind of hankering for a really cheap strat though - upgrade the bridge and pickups and wail. Finally growing out of my shred-obsessed stage.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: AAJagerX on September 04, 2009, 06:53:58 PM
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/jager515/Dean013.jpg

 :devil
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: phatzo on September 04, 2009, 06:57:23 PM
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/jager515/Dean013.jpg

 :devil
noice
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on September 05, 2009, 12:55:06 AM
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/jager515/Dean013.jpg

 :devil

How do you like the Jackson, mate?
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: AAJagerX on September 05, 2009, 02:58:19 AM
I've had a couple of em now.  Great guitars as long as you play standing up. 
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: boomerlu on September 05, 2009, 03:34:30 AM
I've had a couple of em now.  Great guitars as long as you play standing up. 

Look for some pics of Randy Rhoads playin his V sitting down. It's possible and it actually puts your hand in a more natural "classical" position. Haven't tried it myself so can't comment on comfort.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: EskimoJoe on September 05, 2009, 04:41:30 AM
Mike, buy the book Fast Track : Guitar from your local music store. It should only be about 5 bucks, and it's definitely worth it. It teaches you how to read music, where to place your fingers to play certain notes, and is filled with plenty of songs. It's perfect for starting from scratch, my music teacher even required it when I first started playing guitar (about two weeks ago)  :P
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: vorticon on September 05, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
Look for some pics of Randy Rhoads playin his V sitting down. It's possible and it actually puts your hand in a more natural "classical" position. Haven't tried it myself so can't comment on comfort.

play my RR3 like that all the time. its entirely comfortable.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Grind on September 05, 2009, 03:57:13 PM
This is one of my all time favorite songs.... this guy does a great job on it too.  Practice, practice practice...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccikXJQPhJM

<S>

Grind
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Grind on September 05, 2009, 05:02:25 PM
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv65/a8grind/amp.jpg)
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv65/a8grind/Pdlboard.jpg)
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv65/a8grind/Guitars.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: B17Skull12 on September 05, 2009, 05:38:47 PM
This is one of my all time favorite songs.... this guy does a great job on it too.  Practice, practice practice...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccikXJQPhJM

<S>

Grind
that song gives me nightmares in rockband..........
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: BrownBaron on September 05, 2009, 07:03:30 PM
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv65/a8grind/amp.jpg)
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv65/a8grind/Pdlboard.jpg)
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv65/a8grind/Guitars.jpg)

 :D

Jackson :aok

You can keep the fenders....
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: crazyivan on September 05, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
My first 6 string was a Lauren. Paul Reid Smith guitars is located just up the road. Now if I could actually afford one of those! :x

Someone once tould me if I picked up the guitar  5 mins everyday. I'd be great in my own mind! :D
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Xasthur on September 05, 2009, 11:18:09 PM
I've had a couple of em now.  Great guitars as long as you play standing up. 

That's good to hear,

Because of the sort of music I play, it's actually more comfortable for me to play sitting down with the guitar resting on my left leg.


I get cramps in my upper arm (picking arm) up in the tricep area if I play in a normal position for too long.

Having to hold you arm up and pick like that for extended periods gets uncomfortable.


Like the guy on the left:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO1wn6wYRyQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO1wn6wYRyQ)


Flying V shapes suit that nicely.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Murdr on September 06, 2009, 12:35:12 AM
I've had a couple of em now.  Great guitars as long as you play standing up. 

Eh?  Feel perfectly comfortable to me...In fact it puts the neck at a really nice angle for playing high positions.  Here's a video of an old buddy wailing away on his Rhoads...

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=45521429

Actually that same guy sold me my Rhoads and TyDye Dinky when he used to work in a music store 18 years ago :)

When you're driving, instead of wanking about playing air-guitar at the lights.... 'play' the drums.

Don't knock it too much.  I absent mindedly pick my steering wheel or pant leg seam all the time.  Not much help for the OP with his acoustic, but it's great for picking up oddball tripplet/diad/triad combinations in metal alternative songs...at least for me.

(http://479th.jasminemarie.com/images/axes09.jpg)
(http://479th.jasminemarie.com/images/100_0516.jpg)
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Murdr on September 06, 2009, 12:53:23 AM
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=45521429

<sigh> I shouldn't have rewatched that.  He flies through that arpeggio at 1:23 in 7 seconds.  I play that same arpeggio (learned it from him years ago) in the video linked in my sig at 3:54 and it takes me 18 seconds to get through it  :cry
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: BrownBaron on September 06, 2009, 03:24:26 AM
Eh?  Feel perfectly comfortable to me...In fact it puts the neck at a really nice angle for playing high positions.  Here's a video of an old buddy wailing away on his Rhoads...

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=45521429

Actually that same guy sold me my Rhoads and TyDye Dinky when he used to work in a music store 18 years ago :)

Don't knock it too much.  I absent mindedly pick my steering wheel or pant leg seam all the time.  Not much help for the OP with his acoustic, but it's great for picking up oddball tripplet/diad/triad combinations in metal alternative songs...at least for me.

(http://479th.jasminemarie.com/images/axes09.jpg)
(http://479th.jasminemarie.com/images/100_0516.jpg)

 :aok :aok :aok

I have that same Marshall in ur first pic, and have been strugleing to find a half decent metal tone for it....help
??
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Murdr on September 06, 2009, 06:13:13 AM
:aok :aok :aok

I have that same Marshall in ur first pic, and have been strugleing to find a half decent metal tone for it....help
??
Been normally playin through my 200 watt Randall so long, that I have to think on that :)  FDD always on, treble and gain maxed, mid around 5, bass somewhere between 6-9 depending on whether I had active pickups, and I'd use the contour to scoop the exact tone I wanted.  That's if Im playing alone, I EQ the bass and mid different if I need to punch a lead through a base and rythm guitar.  But my default tone is something like Metallica "...and Justice for All" album, and it gets close enough for me just riffing by myself.  Not sure how "metal" you're trying to get.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: mike254 on September 06, 2009, 01:14:11 PM
You guys have a nice collection of guitars.  :aok

I'm looking for an electric guitar myself. Alot of the song I'm messing around with just don't sound right on acoustic.

I'm getting better but it doesn't look like I'll be playing eruption any time soon. Although, I do have Marry had a Little Lamb and Jingle Bells down pat.  :D
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: BrownBaron on September 06, 2009, 01:21:34 PM
Been normally playin through my 200 watt Randall so long, that I have to think on that :)  FDD always on, treble and gain maxed, mid around 5, bass somewhere between 6-9 depending on whether I had active pickups, and I'd use the contour to scoop the exact tone I wanted.  That's if Im playing alone, I EQ the bass and mid different if I need to punch a lead through a base and rythm guitar.  But my default tone is something like Metallica "...and Justice for All" album, and it gets close enough for me just riffing by myself.  Not sure how "metal" you're trying to get.

well....yea, a metallica tone's cool wit me, if im playing lead though i gotta borrow someone's amp till i can get myself a couple stomp boxes.

Thanks for the info :rock
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: DrDea on September 06, 2009, 05:02:35 PM
Meh Im partial to the les Paul.Thats an early 70's Epiphone with it.

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p128/Kevorkian_2007/GipperEpi.jpg)
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Stalwart on September 06, 2009, 06:03:33 PM
I had quite a collection once.  Five electrics, four acoustics and an electric bass.  Then I realized I was compensating for lack of talent.  :lol  I still have one electric, one nylon string classical, and one steel string acoustic. That's all a no talent hack like me should ever need.  :P
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: StokesAk on September 06, 2009, 06:14:20 PM
Have fun down a long and hard road, Mikeypoo!  :)

LOL, Thats what she said!
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: BrownBaron on September 06, 2009, 07:17:41 PM
LOL, Thats what she said!

ooooh.....so close to making sense, but at the end of the day...no
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: B17Skull12 on September 07, 2009, 03:43:03 AM
You guys have a nice collection of guitars.  :aok

I'm looking for an electric guitar myself. Alot of the song I'm messing around with just don't sound right on acoustic.

I'm getting better but it doesn't look like I'll be playing eruption any time soon. Although, I do have Marry had a Little Lamb and Jingle Bells down pat.  :D
been playing 4 years and still haven't bothered to even try.
Title: Re: My First Guitar!
Post by: Grind on September 07, 2009, 08:48:22 AM
Jackson :aok

You can keep the fenders....

I will, they sound better for the type of music I play..... the Deluxe is awsome ( Lyndy Fralin Vintage Hots and wired like a 57')....:aok