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Title: P-51H
Post by: Nemisis on August 28, 2009, 04:52:57 PM
I want to see the P-51H. It has the same armament as the D moddle, and I'm not sure about manuverability, but it could reach 487 at 25,000ft. I think it would make a good interceptor. It could also carry 2x 1,000lb bombs, and it says "or rockets". Its not like we NEED this plane or anything, but ya, it would be cool to have it.
There was a contract for 1000 planes but 555 were produced. I know it's not a whole lot, but there were also only a few hundred tigers, and we have them.

6x .50cals 1880rds
2x 1,000lb bombs or (and?) rockets
Max speed: 480 @ 25k
Ceiling: 41,320ft
Range: 855 /1200 with DT
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Karnak on August 28, 2009, 05:03:03 PM
Never saw combat.  End of story.
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: BnZs on August 28, 2009, 07:05:44 PM
I just wish we had a P-51D Nem.
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Nemisis on August 28, 2009, 07:08:41 PM
Never saw combat.  End of story.

Ah, oops. sorry bout that. Just let the thread die then.
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: moot on August 28, 2009, 07:14:29 PM
Nemisis I'd recommend you search for this in the Aircraft/Wishlist forums..
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Chalenge on August 28, 2009, 09:26:15 PM
Pretty much the P-51H was (almost) the ultimate pony with the turbine engined version being the absolute best (and developed many years after WWII). The H model was held stateside and was never exported to anyone (if memory serves) and seldom used outside of the mainland even.
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: StokesAk on August 28, 2009, 09:55:08 PM
Was there is P-51K and if so did it see combat?
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Karnak on August 28, 2009, 10:45:17 PM
Was there is P-51K and if so did it see combat?
Yes, but it is just a P-51D from a different factory as I recall.
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Chalenge on August 28, 2009, 10:51:14 PM
Was there is P-51K and if so did it see combat?

The P-51K is the same thing (nearly) as a D model but put together in Dallas. The K model differed with the D in using an Aeroproducts propeller that was made of hollow steel versus the solid aluminum Hydromatic propeller of the D. The hollow steel props were difficult to match properly due to varying densities but eventually the problems were worked out. The rejection rate for K model Mustangs was almost 20% in September 1944 due to propeller imbalance and the holdup in production for 'blade balancing' put quite a lot of pressure on the folks in Dallas. The move to the steel propellers was intended to speed up production but had the opposite effect in reality.

Every photo-recce plane (F-6K) produced after January 1944 came out of Dallas.
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: DaveJ on August 28, 2009, 11:09:01 PM
Can I get the P-51QX model?
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Larry on August 28, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
I want the P-51C.
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Strip on August 28, 2009, 11:13:39 PM
I want the P-51C.

Troll....

:noid
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: AWwrgwy on August 28, 2009, 11:19:16 PM
Pretty much the P-51H was (almost) the ultimate pony with the turbine engined version being the absolute best (and developed many years after WWII). The H model was held stateside and was never exported to anyone (if memory serves) and seldom used outside of the mainland even.


You're thinking of the Cavalier Mustang (wiki  :o) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalier_Mustang)

The P-51H was a lightweight, Allison powered Mustang developed right before the end of WWII.  It never saw combat, anywhere.

P-51H (http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p51_13.html)



wrongway
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Larry on August 28, 2009, 11:24:52 PM
Troll....

:noid

Nope, I just want the P-51C.
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: EagleEyes on August 28, 2009, 11:26:12 PM
me too Larry, me too!
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: hunter128 on August 28, 2009, 11:37:54 PM
I want the P-51C.
All jokes aside, it would be kinda cool to have the C as a birdcage model, though i'm not particularly sure how much that would change things.

just my 2 cents
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Strip on August 29, 2009, 06:54:21 AM
All jokes aside, it would be kinda cool to have the C as a birdcage model, though i'm not particularly sure how much that would change things.

just my 2 cents

The P-51C is the same plane as the P-51B, made in a different location.
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: 5PointOh on August 29, 2009, 07:48:48 AM
Was always curious why our version has the Malcom Hood vs the birdcage. Considering it was a field mod, and at the same time our B/C doesn't have the dorsal field mod. Just random thoughs not wishes...carry on.
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on August 29, 2009, 08:04:08 AM

You're thinking of the Cavalier Mustang (wiki  :o) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalier_Mustang)

The P-51H was a lightweight, Allison powered Mustang developed right before the end of WWII.  It never saw combat, anywhere.

P-51H (http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p51_13.html)



wrongway

No where in the article you linked to is Allison power mentioned.
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Strip on August 29, 2009, 08:30:01 AM
Thats funny I was under the impression the only Allison powered P-51s were the early models.

Mustang II, P-51A etc?
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Chalenge on August 29, 2009, 10:15:23 AM
You're thinking of the Cavalier Mustang (wiki  :o) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalier_Mustang)

No you didnt read it right. I was talking about two different planes The H being the ultimate piston engined plane with the turbo-prop engine plane being developed long after the war. The Turbo Mustang III (your Cavalier) was introduced in October 1968 with a Rolls Royce Dart 510 turbo-prop engine. The Dart engine installation is basically a Vickers Viscount power package complete with cowling that is very different from the typical Mustang (including armor protection around the powerplant). There was no further need for the radiator inlet behind the wing and the wing was further hardened for extra ordinance. There was also a Mustang II line created from older Mustang airframes but the Mustang III came from a fresh factory line.

The P-51H was the result of the lightweight Mustang experiments. These tests included a special dive brake apparatus with an additional hydraulic system. The dive brake was designed to create a downwash to the horizontal stabilizer and these planes reached mach 0.76 under full control in dive tests. At least one model tested could reach 20k in 3.5 minutes.
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: jolly22 on August 29, 2009, 10:27:32 AM
sme larry,,,,,i'd fly the P51C over the D,B
Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: 5PointOh on August 29, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
I want the P-51C.
sme larry,,,,,i'd fly the P51C over the D,B

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Title: Re: P-51H
Post by: Bronk on August 29, 2009, 03:51:24 PM
Was always curious why our version has the Malcom Hood vs the birdcage. Considering it was a field mod, and at the same time our B/C doesn't have the dorsal field mod. Just random thoughs not wishes...carry on.
At one time we did have the birdcage.  Be happy we now have the malcom hood.

Now if we could just get the malcom hood on the spitfires. :noid