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Title: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: whisperingeye on September 02, 2009, 05:06:30 PM
After the plane takes off i cant get contorl of it easily. When i turn it, it works, but when i pull back and try to lift up sometimes it goes up a few feet and then falls back to where i was, sometimes it wont go up at all, sometimes it goes down instead or up, and sometimes if i lean it forward trying to descend it will go straight down to the ground and when i try to pull up it doesnt move at all, it just keeps going straight down. I can never get it above the initial altitude the autopilot gets it to. This is only with the Lancaster III bomber, all the other planes work fine for me but i want to know why this happens and what i can do to overcome it.
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: Krusty on September 02, 2009, 05:09:36 PM
A film might be helpful. Can you record a short one showing what you've described here?
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: jdbecks on September 02, 2009, 05:18:56 PM
are you fully loaded?
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: whisperingeye on September 02, 2009, 05:26:25 PM
first of all i recorded a video but how do i post it, and secondly what do you mean by fully loaded?
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: Lusche on September 02, 2009, 05:41:50 PM
He is referring to your fuel loadout. He is probably suspecting you are trying to fly the Lancaster with 100% fuel...

To post a video, you have to upload it to a filehosting website (for example www.mediafire.com ), then post the link here.
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: whisperingeye on September 02, 2009, 05:43:30 PM
oh i think its at 50 or 75, and for the video, i cannot find where it saves it to on my computer. where does it save the videos to?
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: Lusche on September 02, 2009, 05:46:30 PM
and how do i post a video?


See my message above.


75% will make your Lancaster very heavy, which can easily lead to the symptoms you aredescribing above. The more fuel you load, the smaller your rate of climb gets and the more sluggish your Lancaster will react.
Usually 25% is enough, 50% fuel will give you about 2 hours of flight time.

where does it save the videos to?

In your AH installation folder, ther is a subfolder called "films"
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: whisperingeye on September 02, 2009, 05:49:40 PM
i cannot find the folder
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: onan on September 02, 2009, 05:52:41 PM
Lancs are real heavy and need at least 150/160mph to climb even slowly.  Max climb rate is about 1000ft per min when loaded with ords.  14x 1k bombs. They are good on fuel so don't take so much as the extra wieght can be a problem.
On take off , choose a runway with no climb out if poss and retract the flaps.  You'll get more speed on take off and as long as you keep the climb to around 1000ft/pm it should be ok.
I'm no expert but it works.
I wouldn't attempt diving with one, or going down verticle though.  The wings come off and the controls can compress.
It's a level bomber so try and keep things easy.
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: whisperingeye on September 02, 2009, 05:57:13 PM
well i was trying to descend just barely, i moved the controls a very minute amount and the thing just plumited toward the ground
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: onan on September 02, 2009, 06:02:19 PM
Maybe calibrate your stick.  can't hurt.
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: whisperingeye on September 02, 2009, 06:03:54 PM
ya i had the 14 1k bombs, now i got 6 of em i think, and also i got 25% fuel now and its better but still its not that it was slow while going up, but it was unresponsive to my moventments. like when ide pull up on it, it would raise a small amount and then go back down to where i was, and sometimes when i would try to raise up, it would actually descend. now it does the same but its faster at doing it :P
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: whisperingeye on September 02, 2009, 06:08:10 PM
what altitude is good for dropping the bombs? Someone online said they needed time to "kick in" so i dont know what alititude i should be at for this to be able to happen.
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: Lusche on September 02, 2009, 06:16:15 PM
what altitude is good for dropping the bombs? Someone online said they needed time to "kick in" so i dont know what alititude i should be at for this to be able to happen.

You can bomb from every altitude. Bombs need to travel a mimimum distance of 1000 feet before arming.

What altitude is really important for is survival, especially when flying Lancasters. Against a moderately defended target, you should consider flying at 10K or above.
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: whisperingeye on September 02, 2009, 06:19:58 PM
ok, and ya now i understand what you said about not wanting to dive with these planes. I went to land to fast and like 20 feet off the ground my landing gears ripped off.
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: whisperingeye on September 02, 2009, 06:20:52 PM
Also is there a way to see the bomb explode, cuz how am i supposed to know if i hit my target or what i hit if i cant see the bomb explode.
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: Lusche on September 02, 2009, 06:34:12 PM
There will be a message in the text buffer if you destroyed an object (or killed another player)

You can also hit F3, then F8. Then you can freely move your external view around with the numberpad keys, for example to look down to see explosions.
Of course, in bombers like the B-24 you can simply jump to your belly gunner position.

More info about level bombing:

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/    Chapter "Level Bombing Techniques"
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: tokenjo on September 02, 2009, 10:20:55 PM
Have you scaled the elevators on your stick?  If not even a little movement
may cause the symptoms you describe, which would be full deflection of yer
elevators.   If you haven't do a search in this forum for stick scaling.

Tokenjo
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: jdbecks on September 03, 2009, 01:26:27 AM
ya i had the 14 1k bombs, now i got 6 of em i think, and also i got 25% fuel now and its better but still its not that it was slow while going up, but it was unresponsive to my moventments. like when ide pull up on it, it would raise a small amount and then go back down to where i was, and sometimes when i would try to raise up, it would actually descend. now it does the same but its faster at doing it :P

It sounds normal to me, especialy when it only happens with this plane and none other, and you said its a bit better with a light load.

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Engine Power

Most bombers are not known for good climb, top speed, or acceleration, and the Lancaster typifies this. The Lanc is slow, especially at low levels, turning an unimpressive 226mph at sea-level. Fortunately, speed improves with altitude but only 277mph at 14K and then slowly drops off. That's a reasonably decent top speed but occurs fairly low in altitude and really doesn't offer much safety. Climb rate is also lousy at full load, though can be significantly improved if you decide not to take a maximum amount of bombs. 600ft/minute is about all you can expect with fully laden with ordinance, holding fairly steady until 15K, above which is drops off dramatically. At low levels though the Lanc can be a sitting duck, with easy overtake by any fighter in the game. Range on full internal fuel is huge, 141minutes, which is totally unnecessary and a lesser 25-50% is more typical a load
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: Enker on September 03, 2009, 06:33:58 PM
There will be a message in the text buffer if you destroyed an object (or killed another player)

You can also hit F3, then F8. Then you can freely move your external view around with the numberpad keys, for example to look down to see explosions.
Of course, in bombers like the B-24 you can simply jump to your belly gunner position.

Or, if you wish to have a nice zoomed in view, you can hit U then use your stick to move the bombsight around and watch the bombs fall.
Title: Re: Lancaster III bomber
Post by: Lligaf on September 05, 2009, 09:36:16 PM
Put the flaps up all the way on take off and leave them there. Plane very unstable with flaps dwn. Also as you where already told only take 25% fuel can fly all the way across map.That's the only bomber I fly. I guess you could say I'm a lancstuka dive bombing dweeb.