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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: kilz on September 03, 2009, 08:32:00 AM
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i have read you can do it but i dont understand it. i know my computer can be over clocked but i have never done it before so i just didnt do it. now i want to see how it will preform with it over clocked. if no diffrence then i will change it back to normal
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Being a newb to overclocking is like being a newb to AH. First thing your going to want to do is read, read, and read some more. There is no TA for an overclock attempt, the first time you let the smoke out of any parts, it's game over. You might be able to get some help from someone here. Post your DxDiag so we can see what you have. That would be the first step after reading a lot.
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I highly recommend you don't do it!
You already said it, you don't know how to do it. Therefore if you were to overclock your system you are less likely to know if trouble is just waiting around the corner. My suggestion is that you stick around this area of the forums reading every few threads thereby increasing your knowledge of motherboards, their BIOSes, and processors. The more you know how the hardware functions, the less likely you are to fry your system overclocking it.
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look up in you tube how to overclock. it will tell you what to do, but be carefull couple of those films are made just to blow up your system. but easiest way is find some software that will do it for you and use it. some mobo have that software included in their cd. but basically figure out why you wannna do it first. is your computer too slow? most of the time just buying more ram or changing something else will make it faster. but just like everybody else said dont do it unless your willing and able to buy a new computer.
semp
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I highly recommend you don't do it!
You already said it, you don't know how to do it. Therefore if you were to overclock your system you are less likely to know if trouble is just waiting around the corner. My suggestion is that you stick around this area of the forums reading every few threads thereby increasing your knowledge of motherboards, their BIOSes, and processors. The more you know how the hardware functions, the less likely you are to fry your system overclocking it.
i have been a member of these forums for many years and i do read these post from time to time. i am knowledged with my mother board and its BIOs.
i was just wanting to learn about over clocking since its the only thing i have yet to learn about a computer
however i will take yalls word and not over clock my computer i still would like to learn how.
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Kilz, if you have an Intel system it's pretty much safe.... If you overclock too high, it'll reboot and revert back to the system's default clock....
Helps to have a decent motherboard and some good memory.. There are programs available that put a heavy load on the system for a few hours to test stability..
Make sure you have good cooling set up.. Check your processor temps... http://www.almico.com/speedfan439.exe (http://www.almico.com/speedfan439.exe)<----speedfan can tell you your temps if you don't have a way of looking at them in windows.. You can overclock your video card too..
I don't dabble in AMD so I can't tell you anything about them.. In the past, AMD processors ran pretty hot and had some issues with stability in overclocking.... Don't know and don't care if the same applies now..
Here's a decent little tutorial----->http://www.cyb3rglitch.com/Overclock-CPUs-RAM/Overclock-CPUs-RAM.php (http://www.cyb3rglitch.com/Overclock-CPUs-RAM/Overclock-CPUs-RAM.php)
What motherboard, processor, and RAM do you have?
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some of the AMD CPUS have enough headroom to overclock(that I know of),but overclocking them is different from Intell from what I have read.I have played with it abit,not alot.
There are also several sites,example: overclockers.com...these sites will have valuable information.
I run a AMD 2.4 triple core overclocked to 2.8.
Cattb/Tim O
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the new AMD Phenom i believe can be overclocked
I am running an Intel Core 2quad CPU with the Q6600 at 2.4gh (4cpu)
running windows XP with 3.2 gigs of ram
BIOs Phoenix RAM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A06
Video Card NVIDIA Geforce 8800 Ultra 768.00 MB memory
i dont have fans in my system its all water cooled
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the new AMD Phenom i believe can be overclocked
I am running an Intel Core 2quad CPU with the Q6600 at 2.4gh (4cpu)
running windows XP with 3.2 gigs of ram
BIOs Phoenix RAM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A06
Video Card NVIDIA Geforce 8800 Ultra 768.00 MB memory
i dont have fans in my system its all water cooled
You can get over 4GHz with the proper memory and motherboard with the Q6600 if it is the G0 (0 = Zero no an O). But if you dont know what your doing, prepair to buy new components.
Just because your running an H2O system does not mean that your safe, they are not created equal. Single, Dual, Triple radiator, CFM's of the fans on the radiator, how good is the radiator, how many liters per hour does your pump do, whats the volume, what size tubing, what liquid and from whom, how many 90's or 45's, are you cooling on a single or dual loop, whats included in each loop.... is it CPU alone or CPU, Voltage Regulators and Video, etc etc the list goes on and on.
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You can get over 4GHz with the proper memory and motherboard with the Q6600 if it is the G0 (0 = Zero no an O). But if you dont know what your doing, prepair to buy new components.
see thats what i thought i had read before. now what would be the proper memory and mother board
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see thats what i thought i had read before. now what would be the proper memory and mother board
Well if you can find a Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3P that would be a good board to start with or a EVGA 790i Ultra or 790i FTW. This will give you the ability to use DDR3 memory. With the DDR3 you can drag the CPU, FSB and memory all up at the same time. AS far as proper memory, I personally use OCZ, I have had more luck with this over Corsair. Mushkin is stable but a little hard to get to higher Overclock speeds. You will also need a good PSU driving the system (most important part of any system IMHO). Cooling again take a huge role in this too.
If your not sure read for about 6 months, push what you currently have some, learn what each of the BIOS settings does and why and how they effect other settings. If you got money to burn try it on your own, fry component, buy a new component, repeat.
OCing a system to the upper limits of the CPU, Memory and MB are risky and not to be tried at home without experience or knowledge.
TD
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... i know my computer can be over clocked ...
Broadly generalizing, there are two different ways to overclock. One is to start out purchasing components that are known to be generally good for overclocking, and then overclocking them.
The other is to take a generally purchased system, and overclock it to whatever extent is possible.
If you purchase all components with the intent to overclock, by carefully choosing only the best you can in some instances overclock by as much as 25 percent or so on air or room temperature cooling. (In other words, without going to extremes, such as subzero cooling, etc.)
But (AGAIN, applying a broad generalization) when overclocking a system that was never intended for it in the first place you are usually very very lucky if you manage to increase performance by much over about 10%. Unless you are extremely lucky and just happened to luck into all the right components, some component always limits you before you get too far.
In your first post, you indicated that you wanted to oc your (existing) computer. If so, then determine exactly what motherboard and what chipset you have, and then search and read until you understand exactly how that particular chipset/board can be overclocked, and then begin doing so. But before you even begin, understand that you are risking what you have for what is probably going to be at most around a 10 % overall increase in performance. Think about what that means in terms of your usage - for example, if you are getting 30 FPS in AH, how much do you want to risk to go to around 35 or so?
If you are looking to build out a new system that has great overclocking potential, it's a completely different ball game. But I didn't think from the original post that that's what you meant.
All just my humble opinion based upon 30 years in the industry, of course. YMMV, TANSTAAFL, etc.
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Broadly generalizing, there are two different ways to overclock. One is to start out purchasing components that are known to be generally good for overclocking, and then overclocking them.
The other is to take a generally purchased system, and overclock it to whatever extent is possible.
If you purchase all components with the intent to overclock, by carefully choosing only the best you can in some instances overclock by as much as 25 percent or so on air or room temperature cooling. (In other words, without going to extremes, such as subzero cooling, etc.)
But (AGAIN, applying a broad generalization) when overclocking a system that was never intended for it in the first place you are usually very very lucky if you manage to increase performance by much over about 10%. Unless you are extremely lucky and just happened to luck into all the right components, some component always limits you before you get too far.
In your first post, you indicated that you wanted to oc your (existing) computer. If so, then determine exactly what motherboard and what chipset you have, and then search and read until you understand exactly how that particular chipset/board can be overclocked, and then begin doing so. But before you even begin, understand that you are risking what you have for what is probably going to be at most around a 10 % overall increase in performance. Think about what that means in terms of your usage - for example, if you are getting 30 FPS in AH, how much do you want to risk to go to around 35 or so?
If you are looking to build out a new system that has great overclocking potential, it's a completely different ball game. But I didn't think from the original post that that's what you meant.
All just my humble opinion based upon 30 years in the industry, of course. YMMV, TANSTAAFL, etc.
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IMHO he has the right CPU, 6600, but not so sure about the other components. so I agree with you. I do not think it is worth the chance for the minimal gain. Mostly the lack of experience with OCing is my main concern.
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is that all you gain out of it is like a 10% advantage
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From your system, yes.