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Title: Augmented Reality
Post by: Jebus on September 04, 2009, 08:37:32 PM
This week I got rid of my Blackberry Storm and bought the new Ipod 16g 3GS.  I was screwing around with it for a few days and thought it was a pretty neat little phone.

I went to the Apple Store to buy a car charger/FM transmitter.  While I was there they told me to download this one application and that there was a hidden function in it.  I downloaded it and showed me how to get the hidden function.  What you do is you hold it like your going to take a picture and turn around and it will show you anything you want (restaurants, bars, stores, ect) and you can walk to it.  You actually see through the walls and floors where these stores are.

They then showed me what the next gen in gaming was going to be.  How the Iphone and other kinds of devices like it will be used for it.  This is the demo they showed me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNu4CluFOcw

I am sorry but that is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Fulmar on September 04, 2009, 08:56:13 PM
I'll give apple credit for making some nice products.  But doing service on any of there stuff is outrageous.  From their computers to their Ipods, they obviously want you to send it into them.  Most of the Ipod designs for changing batteries are absolutely horrible.  Especially their newer stuff.
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Denholm on September 04, 2009, 10:20:28 PM
Tell me when the X-Ray app comes around.



Rrrrrr. :D
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Vulcan on September 04, 2009, 11:49:48 PM
Augmented Reality is the next 'big thing'. Read Gibsons novel Spook Country if you want to see where it could and will go.
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 05, 2009, 02:26:03 AM
I don't think gaming is going to be very fun on this miniscule phone screens. Where I do see augmented reality possible is Google maps etc. integration where you can see street names, path guidance etc. projected on augmented reality.

Gaming use would be thinkable with full 3D headset and augmented reality combined. Then it would start to rock. Even though even that brings up a few problems.. If augmented reality projects a flat ground where there's a pitfall.. Or if augmented reality projects an object on ground, you try to step on it but find nothing but air and lose balance..

I'm sure many hurdles will be in the way still.
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Skuzzy on September 05, 2009, 06:41:25 AM
Ripley, you and I are of a different generation.  This new generation coming up behind us would be happy with VHS tape.  They do not have any appreciation for high quality images.  They really do believe, for the most part, that if it cannot be done with their phone, it really is a waste of time and has no value.

You should see how many support emails I get a day from phones.  Its mind boggling.  They get really frustrated when I ask for things like the DXDIAG output, because it is a pain for them to get it to their phone.

It's a new world.
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Strip on September 05, 2009, 06:54:03 AM
I must be bucking that trend, I leave my at home and avoid it as much as I can.

It might have something to with gf ack tho.....

 :uhoh
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Vulcan on September 05, 2009, 05:04:48 PM
I don't think gaming is going to be very fun on this miniscule phone screens. Where I do see augmented reality possible is Google maps etc. integration where you can see street names, path guidance etc. projected on augmented reality.

Gaming use would be thinkable with full 3D headset and augmented reality combined. Then it would start to rock. Even though even that brings up a few problems.. If augmented reality projects a flat ground where there's a pitfall.. Or if augmented reality projects an object on ground, you try to step on it but find nothing but air and lose balance..

I'm sure many hurdles will be in the way still.

The next gen of vuzix products will do that, 3D headset compatible with an ipod and with dual 3d camera's. In spook country gibson proposes wifi AP's that offer up virtual projections of historic events based on location. For example you might go to NY and see what the twin towers loooked like, maybe even have an option to reply the events (a high quality 3d rendering viewable from all angles).
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Heater on September 06, 2009, 06:08:59 AM
Maybe I am getting too old.... but I thought a phone was used for placing phone calls.....
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 06, 2009, 10:48:43 AM
Ripley, you and I are of a different generation.  This new generation coming up behind us would be happy with VHS tape.  They do not have any appreciation for high quality images.  They really do believe, for the most part, that if it cannot be done with their phone, it really is a waste of time and has no value.

You should see how many support emails I get a day from phones.  Its mind boggling.  They get really frustrated when I ask for things like the DXDIAG output, because it is a pain for them to get it to their phone.

It's a new world.

LOL you're kidding right? Oh dear..  :rofl
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Vulcan on September 07, 2009, 03:40:33 AM
Maybe I am getting too old.... but I thought a phone was used for placing phone calls.....


that's sooooo 20th century.
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Grayeagle on September 07, 2009, 11:54:07 PM
LOL Skuzzy .. I hear ya.

Heck I just saw a young guy on Speed Channel Pass Time list a 'muffler' on his Honda as a Power Adder.

Even wife thought that was funny :)

-Frank aka GE (a blower on a Hemi is a 'power adder' ..LOL)
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: phatzo on September 08, 2009, 12:19:53 AM
I also are one of these old school people who prefer to not always have their phone on them (except in the course of bussiness). My 17 year old daughter has had more phones than me, sorta reminds me of the Asimov short story where the scientist outrageous claims to be able to do mathematics with a pencil and paper and a computer (calculator) were not needed.
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Grayeagle on September 09, 2009, 02:23:32 PM
I'm still waitin for my Holo-deck.

Solid State hard drives are here .. terabytes of info limited by bus speed at the moment.
Next up, displays .. gettin into measuring by the foot instead of inches ..
User interface ..already cameras that scan and build 3d shapes so you dont need to wear 'sensors'
to put you into the game.

It's gettin there.
Next ten years oughta be very good.

-GE aka Frank
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Jebus on September 10, 2009, 09:01:09 AM
Ripley, you and I are of a different generation.  This new generation coming up behind us would be happy with VHS tape.  They do not have any appreciation for high quality images.  They really do believe, for the most part, that if it cannot be done with their phone, it really is a waste of time and has no value.

You should see how many support emails I get a day from phones.  Its mind boggling.  They get really frustrated when I ask for things like the DXDIAG output, because it is a pain for them to get it to their phone.

It's a new world.

No offense, but you are a little out of touch. I don't think the prevailing feeling is that it has no value just that the graphics getting better and better has lost its allure. The generation before ours was wondering why we would give up face to face social interaction of a complex board game to play pong. It is a cycle for which there is no escape. It does suck to be on the cutting edge of the snubbed technology, but such is life.
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Tac on September 10, 2009, 10:44:53 AM
You really need to take a look at some japanese animation films... mainly the ones that deal with space and futurustic stuff (anime that is made past 2005 that is) and see how they show the characters using cellphones for almost everything in their lives.

One comes to mind where they showed the characters using their cellphone for:

- audio calls
- video calls
- used as debit cards (owner types the amount on cellphone and passes it over a scanning device at the store or touched another cellphone and beep! the money transferred)
- used as ID cards
- used as video game console
- used as a music listening device
- used as a personal computer (via touchscreen much like the i-phone)
- internet access
- flashlight (lcd light .. rather nifty)
- pointer (laser pointer lol)
- taser

and could 'merge' with other cellphones to create a more powerful computer / bigger screen by having the owners put the phones next to each other in a grid.

and all this we can do with today's technology. Its just that the infrastructure to make the phone become all this is not really in place yet but its getting there.
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Skuzzy on September 10, 2009, 01:26:45 PM
No offense, but you are a little out of touch. I don't think the prevailing feeling is that it has no value just that the graphics getting better and better has lost its allure. The generation before ours was wondering why we would give up face to face social interaction of a complex board game to play pong. It is a cycle for which there is no escape. It does suck to be on the cutting edge of the snubbed technology, but such is life.

Why don't you tell that to the people I deal with then?  I was paraphrasing the many times I have heard, "If I cannot do with my phone, it is not worth doing".  I deal with irritated people because I use email instead ot texting, or twittering.  They do not understand and tell me I am out of touch with how people communicate.

Now, you tell me I am out of touch because I am relaying how they have expressed themselves to me.  So, only question I have is this, "Are you the rock or the hard place?".
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: sluggish on September 10, 2009, 01:51:17 PM
I was checking out X-Plane 9 the other night and they have an ady for X-Plane Mobile for your iPhone.  What good could that possibly be?
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Vulcan on September 10, 2009, 04:08:18 PM
Now, you tell me I am out of touch because I am relaying how they have expressed themselves to me.  So, only question I have is this, "Are you the rock or the hard place?".

Nah you're out of touch because you prefer a CLI   :devil
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Skuzzy on September 10, 2009, 04:28:35 PM
Nah you're out of touch because you prefer a CLI   :devil

Oh, that's only because I do not need a GUI to tell me how to do my job.  :)
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Motherland on September 10, 2009, 09:13:50 PM
You really need to take a look at some japanese animation films... mainly the ones that deal with space and futurustic stuff (anime that is made past 2005 that is) and see how they show the characters using cellphones for almost everything in their lives.
<snip>
Hehe Pokemon had multipurpose devices like that in the late 90's :)
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: FiLtH on September 10, 2009, 09:25:06 PM
Tell me when the X-Ray app comes around.



Rrrrrr. :D

      ya those xray glasses we saw as kids in comics, now you will be able to look at women thru the device and see them as scantilly clad or naked :)
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: ariansworld on September 10, 2009, 09:38:42 PM
Oh, that's only because I do not need a GUI to tell me how to do my job.  :)

Man, you are still on a DOS? I bet you have a floppy fort...... :noid
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: Skuzzy on September 11, 2009, 06:12:38 AM
Man, you are still on a DOS? I bet you have a floppy fort...... :noid

Try UNIX.
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: WilldCrd on September 11, 2009, 10:45:43 AM
Nah you're out of touch because you prefer a CLI   :devil

lol funny, in school we were taught CLI = Cash Line Interface. If you can do it you get the cash....sooo true, I can think of several scenarios were if you couldn't use it you be screwed  :rofl

I could tell some stories
Title: Re: Augmented Reality
Post by: betty on September 11, 2009, 10:57:44 AM
i dont care what anyone says...that is hella cool!!!