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Title: B-17Skin Help
Post by: 5PointOh on September 08, 2009, 12:07:27 AM
I wondering if anyone could assist in pointing me in a direction, or had more pictures of this particular aircraft.  I know it was used in night leafleat campaign, and not totally sure if HTC would accept it. Any other info would be helpful.

B-17G-65-BO 43-37516 TONDALAYO of the 406th BS(H)/305th BG, Cheddington, February 1945

(http://survivorww2.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/tondalayo2.jpg)

(http://www.redkitebooks.co.uk/AA/images/excavations/Missing/B17-Harwich07.jpg)
Title: Re: B-17Skin Help
Post by: lyric1 on September 08, 2009, 01:57:37 AM
There are purist's that will contend if it did not drop bombs it should not be added. I am not one of them I will dig around & see what I can find on it. EDIT -->Also is it an all black aircraft?
Title: Re: B-17Skin Help
Post by: 5PointOh on September 08, 2009, 02:46:10 AM
Yes Lyric, this is an all black aircraft...and ty sir.
Title: Re: B-17Skin Help
Post by: lyric1 on September 08, 2009, 08:50:00 AM
I knew I had seen this plane before from the first web link I have posted, interesting bird Plus the colour of the chin turret wont be an issue.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.markstyling.com/1stad_b17/37_1ad.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.markstyling.com/1ad_b17s4.htm&usg=__dBUyPDSVRgzNsZNPIdXKCDm7h1Q=&h=233&w=666&sz=54&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=LEyiEraWuX2AtM:&tbnh=48&tbnw=138&prev=/images%3Fq%3Db17%2Btondalayo%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBR_enUS236US236%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

http://www.mibglobal.com.au/prod1308.htm

http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba75/feat1.shtml 

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/airmen-03041945.htm

http://www.redkitebooks.co.uk/AA/ev_b17harwich.html
Just a related link.

http://www.bomberlegends.com/pdf/BL_Mag_v1-3-SecretSquad.pdf
Title: Re: B-17Skin Help
Post by: 5PointOh on September 08, 2009, 09:12:09 AM
Thank you Lyric,

The redkite link and Mark Styling I had found.  I just hope that the blank triangle on top of the wing is acurate. IMO pretty interesting story to go with this plane. 
Title: Re: B-17Skin Help
Post by: lyric1 on September 08, 2009, 09:40:35 AM
Thank you Lyric,

The redkite link and Mark Styling I had found.  I just hope that the blank triangle on top of the wing is acurate. IMO pretty interesting story to go with this plane.  
Well normally I always look here for most anything from the USA first. http://www.armyairforces.com/  How ever under the 305TH Bomb group it comes up blank on the 406TH bomb squadron? Now the aircraft in question has the letters JJ & that is a 422ND bomb squadron aircraft part of the 305TH bomb group. As well as similar markings from that unit, Now I just found this link that has the plane but lists it as a 422ND aircraft? Not sure who is right now.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.johnjohn.co.uk/shop/model/diecast212.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.johnjohn.co.uk/shop/alpha/boeing_b17.html&usg=__PGjyETA61yiaLooVRvSoTaklvAM=&h=161&w=70&sz=18&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=A6CFnsUJmwzZOM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=43&prev=/images%3Fq%3D422nd%2Bbomb%2Bsquadron%2Bmarkings%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBR_enUS236US236%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
Title: Re: B-17Skin Help
Post by: Angel666 on September 08, 2009, 02:23:50 PM
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/sgtcondom08/37_1ad.jpg)

^^^ here is a picture i found of this plane... there wasnt much more this was the best i cld find ^^^

<<S>> Angel666
Title: Re: B-17Skin Help
Post by: 5PointOh on September 08, 2009, 02:48:58 PM
Well since I'm off of work, I have a little free time...now I wonder if the left side had the nose art as well?

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z235/nathanyoung1980/ahss6-2.jpg)

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z235/nathanyoung1980/ahss5.jpg)

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z235/nathanyoung1980/ahss4-1.jpg)

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z235/nathanyoung1980/ahss3-2.jpg)
Title: Re: B-17Skin Help
Post by: StokesAk on September 08, 2009, 04:05:30 PM
That is one of the Best 17 skins i have seen!
Title: Re: B-17Skin Help
Post by: Angel666 on September 08, 2009, 04:09:33 PM
very nice job sir!!!! thats is a amazing looking flying fortress!

<<S>> Angel666
Title: Re: B-17Skin Help
Post by: Coog03 on September 08, 2009, 04:41:36 PM
Looks great sir <<S>>
Title: Re: B-17Skin Help
Post by: 5PointOh on September 08, 2009, 07:10:51 PM
Thanks gents...

Lyric,

I did find this on the AAF site

http://forum.armyairforces.com/406BS-Night-Leaflet-Squadron-8th-USAAF-OSSPWDSHAEF-m151293.aspx

End of June 1944, HQ designated the need for a sole dedicated unit, which initially was known as the 858th Bomb Squadron, A central core of experienced seasoned 422nd men, plus B-17's already aequipped for such missions, transferred to Cheddington. It remained the 858th during this transitional move from Chelveston. The new outfit was led by the former 422nd Sqn Commander, a very young 27 year old Major Earl J. Aber Jr. Later promoted to Lt. Colonel, Aber remained Commander of this new propaganda out till his untimely death just weeks before the end of WW2. He was tragically killed by friendly fire over British coast, when his B-17 crossed paths with a rogue German raider. Flak hit Aber's plane, bring it down on the coast, crashing into the River Stour, Essex.
 
The designation of 406th did not come into being until the second half of 1944.
 
Many aircraft which had seen service prior in the 422nd, flying such night missions, transferred over to Cheddington and continued to fly right till war's end. One of many was MISS MICKEY FINN, an elderly B-17F model, whose mission tally certainly reached 148 missions 'officially' flown since entering the ETO, and may in fact have exceeded that by several more.
Title: Re: B-17Skin Help
Post by: caldera on September 08, 2009, 07:36:30 PM
To qoute Nigel Tufnel-  "What could be more black? The answer in none. None more black."

Cool skin.