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Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: Minotaur on November 19, 2000, 11:12:00 AM
I could not get Shuliken to respond, so I don't know his yardage to me.  My yardage to him was 975 when he first damaged me, right after that I turned on film.  We had been level for awhile, additionally he must have had tracers off as I saw none.

Film (http://my.ispchannel.com/~jfaries/965.ahf)

Enjoy!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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"Best is the trash talk. Severly and viciously going after your enemies, their mothers, and their shabby sheep."
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Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: Westy on November 19, 2000, 02:08:00 PM
 Eeeeyup.  Want to see a short film of me? Merging level with an F4U-1C, he Immels 3K behind me, reverse completely and runs me down till he kills one engine at 900 with several pings of the 20mm. I was going straight to begin with and I kept going straight after the merge so no E loss on my part at all. He finished me off at 700 or so off my "6".

IMO, the 1C has enough ammo that many folks will spray and pray for that lucky, golden, long range 20mm hit. They get them quite often too. If it does not shoot you down outright it will cripple and make it easier for them to finish you off.

  -Westy
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: straffo on November 19, 2000, 02:45:00 PM
Best lucky kill 1.3K with hispano and 3 shell  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (poor 51  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) )
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 19, 2000, 03:38:00 PM
Hi

Guys dont worry bout it we can feel better cuz we know that all that stuff happend every single day of the war. Westy I too love the no E-loss reverses of our chog and and Niki friends, but surely those two particular aircraft were capable of such feats especially after they were fitted with the vaunted R2800 1.04, and Homare (is that niki engine name?) type 1.04 super motors of incredible power for endless energy reserve.
Dont worry be happy, and love the hispano cannon, chog and niki the most accuratly depicted weapon systems in AH!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Plus surely we all know that removal of F4u1d tiny rocket stubs increases performance so drastically, specially in the vertical and stalling departmnent, yep aha!

thanks GRUNHERZ
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: juzz on November 19, 2000, 04:08:00 PM
The niki had a Homer 21 engine iirc...
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: gatt on November 19, 2000, 04:36:00 PM
Well, I have to say, its fun to read these same things while on leave. LOL  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Last time I remember, I was pinged badly by a Lanc rear gunner. My FE reported about 1,600yds. Eheh, weird.

Hmmmm, a nice nurse is massaging my hurting neck ... cya operational pilots  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Macchi C.202's sting (1,9MByte film) (http://web.tiscalinet.it/gatt/breda.avi)
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: Spatula on November 19, 2000, 04:43:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Westy:

IMO, the 1C has enough ammo that many folks will spray and pray for that lucky, golden, long range 20mm hit. They get them quite often too. If it does not shoot you down outright it will cripple and make it easier for them to finish you off.

  -Westy

Exactly. I reckon HTC should seriously tone down the damage that a 20mm or any round can do espc at distaces over 400-500. I know that with lag, on your FE it looks like 900 but on their (which is where the hit is scored) it could be around 600 depending on closure etc. To counter this you would have to factor in some ammount of lag induced distance descrepency factor.
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: Luke Skywalker on November 19, 2000, 05:11:00 PM
Be happy that we dont have the ISD Executor modelled in AH  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) their turbolasers hurt (I know it first-hand  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif))

So far I only fly offline and in H2H. In H2H once I was killed at a whoppin 1.6K of distance.
Truth is that I had a text lag of nearly 3 seconds on the buffer, so it didnt surprise me a lot  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

I tried a F4U1-C on H2H yesterday, and killed a guy at 900-800 yards. I was impressed  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: Yeager on November 19, 2000, 05:14:00 PM
Yep.

Yeager
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: Replicant on November 19, 2000, 05:43:00 PM
I had a F4U-1C on the tail of my B26.  He wasn't closing at all... and was at about 1.5k away.  He started firing... I started laughing.... until my wings fell off!  Don't think it was my laughter that caused that, more like the Hispanos!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Nexx
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: Major Tom on November 19, 2000, 09:19:00 PM
I nailed a C-hog that tried to run away on the deck from my mighty B-26.  Shot him with my forward .50 caliber browning turbolaser at 1.6!
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 19, 2000, 09:54:00 PM
Hi

Major Tom bomber guns are not 50cals. they are more like hispanos. They have extended range and impact effect, basically they are just like some 20mm cannon but with an even longer range.

thanks GRUNHERZ
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: Jekyll on November 20, 2000, 02:01:00 AM
My best is nailing a P51 at 1000yds with a 1 second burst from 950yds in my stang.

Sent the film to HTC (remember when they were asking for proof that long range gunnery existed?)

Funny, never got a reply though  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: Fishu on November 20, 2000, 03:26:00 AM
For real, he was alot closer than that..
then next thing, shuliken is lagging alot usually.
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: LLv34 Jarsci on November 20, 2000, 09:58:00 AM

Given up Chogging almost totally..is too easy to just spray and pray. If I want groundpounder I take tiffie...wondering why the same hispanos do less damage in Tiffie..
(haven`t got as much long range kills as I got in Chog.)

Try out YAK! It improves your flying skills  : you have to come close to shoot and f-4`s are really easy prey when you just stay out of his cone of fire. Been there done that.

LLv34 Jarsci
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: funked on November 20, 2000, 11:12:00 AM
Range estimates taken from the FE of the guy getting shot are less than worthless.
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: Fishu on November 20, 2000, 04:56:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by LLv34 Jarsci:

Given up Chogging almost totally..is too easy to just spray and pray. If I want groundpounder I take tiffie...wondering why the same hispanos do less damage in Tiffie..
(haven`t got as much long range kills as I got in Chog.)

Try out YAK! It improves your flying skills  : you have to come close to shoot and f-4`s are really easy prey when you just stay out of his cone of fire. Been there done that.

LLv34 Jarsci

I have noticed same thing with tiffie.
I've shot up tanks alot with Tiffie and not much effect as I do in chog usually.
I flew Chog and got kill from almost 800 yards and few more.. tanks got killed easier as well.
Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: Jekyll on November 21, 2000, 03:27:00 AM
Err funked ...

 
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Best lucky kill 1.3K with hispano and 3 shell

 
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I tried a F4U1-C on H2H yesterday, and killed a guy at 900-800 yards. I was impressed

 
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Shot him with my forward .50 caliber browning turbolaser at 1.6!

 
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My best is nailing a P51 at 1000yds with a 1 second burst from 950yds in my stang.

 
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I flew Chog and got kill from almost 800 yards and few more

All these quotes were from the shooter's FE, not the 'shootee'  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Guns are hopelessly porked .. simple as that  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)



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Title: 965yd Hispano Kill
Post by: funked on November 21, 2000, 05:11:00 AM
I was responding to the original post.  I'm sure the guns need some work, but compared to the disaster they call a gunnery model in the last sim I played, they are great here.

[This message has been edited by funked (edited 11-21-2000).]