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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: betty on September 14, 2009, 03:00:41 PM
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i know most of yall dont like pits and always end up posting stupid comments about them whenever i post pics of stuka...but ...for those dog luvers and those that own pits...here i a story..
couple days ago i found out that my niece in which i originally gotten stuka from was getting rid of the 2 puppies (stukas brother and sister). anyways...she found a home for the lil girl pup and had said she was gonna take the lil boy pup to the animal shelter. where i live they dont give pits a chance. they will put them down no matter what age they are. anyways....i went and picked him up.
the 2 pups she had was pretty much throw into a kennel out in the yard and lack training. i have my work cut out for me. they also was very skinny. they didn't get the right amount of food or attention that they needed. my hope is that stuka...being that he is calm and assertive...will help rub off his training onto his lil brother. btw we named him "tank". tank seems to be calming down from being around stuka and isn't as hyper as he was when i first brought him home last night and i was able to get some training in with him this morning.....so i guess i will see how it goes....
here are some pics.....
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watch out when they get a little older, they'll try to assert dominance and bam, dog fight. but cool pics :aok
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Cute little tank ya got there Betty. Just don't let Stuka pee on him and you should be fine. :rofl
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Nice looking dogs Betty - the wurzel is very slightly jealous (but wife is a cat person so ho hum)
Wurzel
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I'm a dog lover, so since you said this post was for dog lovers, I'll bite...
Pitbulls can be great dogs. I've seen it first hand. I've also seen the other side.
A relative and her husband owned 2 pitbulls for several years. They always 'educated' all of their friends and family about how gentle and easy going dogs they could be if raised in the right environment. They referenced all of the books and other information about breading and raising pitbulls as family pets. They certainly appeared to be correct, the dogs were well behaved and lots of fun.
They even had kids a few years after the dogs, and the two pitbulls were great family dogs. They seemed to watch over the kids, and seemed protective.
Years went by, the dogs got older and gentler, everything was great. Then one day the kids (now about 4 or 5) were running in the yard and one of the dogs lost it, damn near ripped the kids face off. After that the dogs were 'never right'. They seemed on edge, ready to fight. 6 months later, the tragedy climaxed when as a family together they took their beloved pets to the vet for the last time, to be put down.
The dogs are dead, but the girl will be scared for life.
I don't care what any dog handler or breeder says. There is simply no way you can change the traits that result from tens of thousands of generations of breeding by 'raising it right'. There are hundreds of kinds of dogs because man has been breeding them for hundreds of different tasks for thousands of years. Each dog was bread for a specific task. Some dogs are herders, some dogs are family pets, some dogs are for security, and some dogs (unfortunately) are for fighting.
The pitbull was bread for fighting. There is tens or even hundreds of thousands of generations of breeding to get the animal you see now. There is absolutely nothing you can do in one generation to take this instinct out of the dog. You might think your dog is different, its gentle. You may even get lucky and never have a problem. But you are playing with a loaded gun, and once you pull the trigger there might be nothing that will stop it except breaking its jaw or killing it.
I don't care to have an internet argument, so this is the only post I'll make. Take it for what its worth, I've heard all the arguments for owning pitbulls, this is just my opinion. BTW my relatives happened to be very religious, they never listened to the 'thousands of years of breeding' argument. I guess they figured all dogs were the same, God just made them all look a little different. :lol
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good looken pup's :aok
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Betty,
He's nice looking dog for sure,I thought they were Bull mastif/pitbull crosses or commonly know as American Banddogge!
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Betty,
He's nice looking dog for sure,I thought they were Bull mastif/pitbull crosses or commonly know as American Banddogge!
they are morfiend.....i just didnt type it this time.
dogg....the whole reason for this post was to show pics of tank and stuka. i dont want to get into the bs again about what people think bout pitbulls. stuka slept in ur lap in dayton for quite awhile....hes still that mellow luving pup and so is tank...
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People accuse Dogs for what? You see on the news that a dog attacked its owner, and do you know the truth about why? NO. Most dogs won't even think about attacking their owner, rather protecting them. Pits are very well known to be quite good with children.
Yes, flame me... When you do some research on it. Come back. Thanks... :aok
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People accuse Dogs for what? You see on the news that a dog attacked its owner, and do you know the truth about why? NO. Most dogs won't even think about attacking their owner, rather protecting them. Pits are very well known to be quite good with children.
Yes, flame me... When you do some research on it. Come back. Thanks... :aok
again this post was to share pics of my dogs not to get into this discussion...i have done research and lots of it...end of discussion... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Good looking doggies.If they ever snap on each other we all know Stuka will go Ruddel on Tank. :aok
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He's a beaut Betty! I'm sure he'll start to calm on down and get in line quickly. It sounds like he's got a good role model and so long as he gets exercise he'll be perfect before you know it.
Here's a pic of my pitt Cadence along with my very very dearly departed Rottweiler Chesty. Crappy pics off my old cell phone but my digital camera got burned up in a fire. I'll try to get some decent camera phone pics of Cadence and our rescue blue pitt Chico up over the next week. Tank has a bit of the same look as Cadence, though a bit more leggy and less broad maybe. Cadence is about 65 pounds and ripped. He's a short wide little guy, and as sweet as could possibly be. For reference as to size here, Chesty is about 120 pounds in these pics.
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/thedogs1.jpg)
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Don't worry about what people who really just don't know any better say, keep posting pics of your guys. There are those of us who love to see them.
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My sister has a pitbull who is the sweetest thing ever. I'd type more, but I really just wanted to throw that out there :P
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He's a beaut Betty! I'm sure he'll start to calm on down and get in line quickly. It sounds like he's got a good role model and so long as he gets exercise he'll be perfect before you know it.
Here's a pic of my pitt Cadence along with my very very dearly departed Rottweiler Chesty. Crappy pics off my old cell phone but my digital camera got burned up in a fire. I'll try to get some decent camera phone pics of Cadence and our rescue blue pitt Chico up over the next week. Tank has a bit of the same look as Cadence, though a bit more leggy and less broad maybe. Cadence is about 65 pounds and ripped. He's a short wide little guy, and as sweet as could possibly be. For reference as to size here, Chesty is about 120 pounds in these pics.
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/thedogs1.jpg)
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/thedogs2.jpg)
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/thedogs3.jpg)
Don't worry about what people who really just don't know any better say, keep posting pics of your guys. There are those of us who love to see them.
awwwwwwwwwwwww sorry to hear bout chesty....very pretty doggies u got there madda! tank is a big smaller than stuka, stuka is more heavy and broad compared to tank but i think it goes back to my niece didn't take care of him and feed him the way he is supposed to be fed. since sunday night when i got him he has settled down alot and we have been working on training him. he just lacked attention, hes a lovable lil guy. i gotta fatten him up though so his ribs dont show...hes too skinny! but he'll be okies.....
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Yeah, Chico, our blue pitt, was just about completely starved to death when we got him from the pound. When I took him to the vet after we'd had him for about a week he weighed 25 pounds, and I figured him to be about 6 months old. Outrageous. His hair had fallen out all along his back and was going away on his head, he was really swaybacked and floppy legged from losing all his muscle mass. You could see his spine even. Now though, I've been feeding him properly on very good quality food, and he's bouncing back nicely. I haven't weighed him lately, but he's got a vet appointment next week. I'm guessing he's about 55 pounds now, and about 10 months old. You can still see his ribs a little, but he's putting muscle back on his shoulders and legs and isn't swaybacked or bowlegged anymore. It makes me happy every day to see his improvement.
I'm sure that Tank will be a constant source of joy to you and to Stuka both.
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watch out when they get a little older, they'll try to assert dominance and bam, dog fight. but cool pics :aok
Dogfights arnt fun
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The pitbull was bread for fighting. There is tens or even hundreds of thousands of generations of breeding to get the animal you see now. There is absolutely nothing you can do in one generation to take this instinct out of the dog. You might think your dog is different, its gentle. You may even get lucky and never have a problem. But you are playing with a loaded gun, and once you pull the trigger there might be nothing that will stop it except breaking its jaw or killing it.
Sorry man, it only takes 40 generations to create a "purebred"...the Pitbull Terrier is a newer breed unlike the Staffordshire Terrier or Rottweiler.
The American Pit Bull Terrier started out as a semi wild livestock catcher. Although many people in the Western world have bred them for pit fighting, the "bred in nature" if you will is to attack wild animals for their masters. The fighting characteristic can be bred out if someone wanted to "pollute the breed"...personally I've only seen idiots own pitbulls that were aggressive toward humans...and any dog breed can be made uncontrollably aggressive toward humans. I raised a Pit-Rottweiler mix one time...smartest, quietest and gentlest dog I ever saw...with people regardless of age that dog didn't care what you did to him...with other dogs, it was a 50/50 shot...out hunting, he was priceless.
I prefer not to own a pure Pit just because of the amount of work required to keep them in line as house pets.
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Sorry man, it only takes 40 generations to create a "purebred"...the Pitbull Terrier is a newer breed unlike the Staffordshire Terrier or Rottweiler.
The American Pit Bull Terrier started out as a semi wild livestock catcher. Although many people in the Western world have bred them for pit fighting, the "bred in nature" if you will is to attack wild animals for their masters. The fighting characteristic can be bred out if someone wanted to "pollute the breed"...personally I've only seen idiots own pitbulls that were aggressive toward humans...and any dog breed can be made uncontrollably aggressive toward humans. I raised a Pit-Rottweiler mix one time...smartest, quietest and gentlest dog I ever saw...with people regardless of age that dog didn't care what you did to him...with other dogs, it was a 50/50 shot...out hunting, he was priceless.
I prefer not to own a pure Pit just because of the amount of work required to keep them in line as house pets.
That's where the "bull" in bull terrier came from you know. For a long time, Pits used to be called the Nanny Dog, because they were so loving and gentle to and protective of children. They only started to get a bad reputation when some donkeys noticed that they are very strong and muscular and agile dogs and had the potential to be fighting dogs. As that love muffinery started to spread, the bad reputation grew. This was a breed that at one time was the most popular and loved breed in America. Idiots have ruined their reputation.
http://www.times-standard.com/opinion/ci_6993026
http://aspcacommunity.ning.com/profiles/blogs/658300:BlogPost:759734
They do require a lot of exercise, and you have to know how to "be in charge" of them for sure Gyrene, but, man, they're so very smart and trainable and just so willing to please you. It is just a joy for me to be with them. Rotts are still my favorites, but Pits come in a close second.
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Purely anecdotal - one of my fishing partners has a pitbull - a big pitbull - damn thing is a big soft lunatic - every time I go round, she goes nuts - running round the house like a mad thing, grabbing my hand, trousers, feet etc - but she's never even come close to biting me. His family has 2 younger kids (8 and 6) and neither of them have been bitten either.
He complains when she goes mad with me there, apparently its only me she is that way around, but whilst that dog is in banzai mode, she's never even come close to worrying me or him, or, more importantly, his children (even seen the youngest try and ride her round the house - dog just looks at us as if to say "see what I have to put up with".
As I said, a purely anecdotal description of my friends hound - softest dog I know, biggest bark I know, and its big enough to knock me off me feet anytime it likes.
Wurzel
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They do require a lot of exercise, and you have to know how to "be in charge" of them for sure Gyrene, but, man, they're so very smart and trainable and just so willing to please you. It is just a joy for me to be with them. Rotts are still my favorites, but Pits come in a close second.
I know, I've hunted with them. Like Labs only smarter with a bigger bite. :D I wish I could find another Rott/Pit mix...bred from family dogs of course. Wife says I have to wait for our current loveable mutt (Chow, Newfie mix) to pass away before I consider even looking...he might out live me...LOL
Pits are definately not for city apartment dwellers...that shouldn't be allowed to own anything bigger than a Rat Terrier...and then there's the morons.
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Madda,
Good to see a rare rottie with a tail :aok
I have "nannydogs" right now 2 in fact,mom and daughter.
For 30 years I've raised and bred English Bullterriers and Stafordshire Bull Terriers.
Around 10 or 12 years ago I downsized from the Bullies to the Staffies,30 lbs compared to 60 to 90 lbs for my Bullies.
All my dogs lived with me and my family and not once did I have a problem,well this stray dog did come into the yard 1 time but that wasnt really a problem!
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Hey, I like that!
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Pretty pup there Betty.I love dogs myself.We have always had small dogs.I have a little chihuahua.Being handicapped I needed a small one to stay in the house with me.He weighs 2 pounds.I am thinking about getting a yorkie soon.I had one before the divorce but couldnt take him with me.Here is a pic of my baby.
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