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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: WMLute on September 14, 2009, 04:31:44 PM
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I am meeting up with a squaddie, WMSol, this weekend and he is gonna give me a ride in his Zivko Edge 540T (I think that is the correct model) If you have ever watched a RedBull air race on TV or in person you have seen an Edge 540.
(http://www.air-races.com/images/PICT0871.JPG)
His is the 2 seater version and looks something like this.
(http://www.grafix4planes.com/aircraftimage/scaleaircraft/kirbyedget.jpg)
I have not been up in a small plane like this for 15-20yrs and NEVER in a monster like the Edge.
Should I be concerned?
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Hell no man--you should be motivated to the extreme. Have a great time and tell us all about it once you get back... :aok
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bring a few of these :lol
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_j99VUrX25a4/SYplmR8SnUI/AAAAAAAAD68/W3Wf_VK6_-w/s320/barf_bag.jpg)
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bring a few of these :lol
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_j99VUrX25a4/SYplmR8SnUI/AAAAAAAAD68/W3Wf_VK6_-w/s320/barf_bag.jpg)
lol
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<nervous just looking :aok lol
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Don't drink heavily the night before you go up. :P
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I always found that an empty stomach made me more prone to a queasiness. Plus, it gives you something to fill the bags.
But seriously, nothing to worry about if you trust the pilot not to do anything dangerous just to impress you.
Have fun. Don't black out. Don't fall for the old trick: "Hey, look over there (to the left or right)" and then - G's.
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Don't fall for the old trick: "Hey, look over there (to the left or right)" and then - G's.
Great advice there.
I will try to remember that.
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Wow!!! Have fun mate.
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The 540 Edge is Hands down THE BEST aerobatic plane in existence ..
Kam
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I'm jealous. That's the definition of an E ticket ride :aok
:salute
BigRat
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I would only be nervous if Sol has'nt shaved! :rofl
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I would only be nervous if Sol has'nt shaved! :rofl
TMI!!!
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2 seater??
I would be nervous if he mentions anything about a "mile high" club. :uhoh
Hope ya have a good time. :D
...cheers eh!
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lute knowing sol i would not put it past him to try to get you to puke. hold on tight bro and take pictures enjoy
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make sure your will is up to date :aok
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If he flies that anything like he flies his F-16, I think you should be. Remind him to steer clear of volleyball nets...
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I am meeting up with a squaddie, WMSol, this weekend and he is gonna give me a ride in his Zivko Edge 540T (I think that is the correct model) If you have ever watched a RedBull air race on TV or in person you have seen an Edge 540.
(http://www.air-races.com/images/PICT0871.JPG)
His is the 2 seater version and looks something like this.
(http://www.grafix4planes.com/aircraftimage/scaleaircraft/kirbyedget.jpg)
I have not been up in a small plane like this for 15-20yrs and NEVER in a monster like the Edge.
Should I be concerned?
concerned?????
excited is more like it!!!
ya lucky bastage! :aok
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Uh,...Lute,...I fought him the other night.....and he hit the ground,so......make sure he keeps it above 10k and you should be reasonably safe.
:D <S> Sol
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Lute, Sol made me the same offer, just been a little busy as of late. So thank you for being the crash dumby (j/k) Btw, Eat a large breakfast. I mean if you're going to puke, make it memorable!
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If you're going to puke in his craft.... Make it memorable. :rock
Btw, Eat a large breakfast. I mean if you're going to puke, make it memorable!
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Do me a favor.... ask him if he was able to get that bark out of the right wing.
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As in tree bark?
:uhoh
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As in tree bark?
:uhoh
Nothing major just some leaves, limbs and heavy bark.
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Yea, i got the bark out, but the squirrel's eyeballs are still embedded in the leading edge. At least eyeballs are semi-aerodynamic!
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Yea, i got the bark out, but the squirrel's eyeballs are still embedded in the leading edge. At least eyeballs are semi-aerodynamic!
Forgot to thank you for that Squashed Squirrel Stew you sent. Was delicious.
PS Bet that wing is a real looker now.
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I fly aerobatic RC and you will have a real good time or a messy cockpit either way have fun
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Shuff:
If you liked that... I hit a cat with an RC plane a bit back on landing. (large scale plane, 26 inch prop) I have some ground catburgers here I can send you... tastes like chicken....
Sol
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The 540 Edge is Hands down THE BEST aerobatic plane in existence ..
Kam
I'll take a Yak-54 myself :)
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load up on bisquits and gravy, and dont forget your AH joystick
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Cat gives me indigestion ever since that kitty litter fiasco
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Bananas, the perfect preflight meal..... They taste the same coming back up as they did going down. :D
Seriously, enjoy the ride.
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Be concerned if Sol often uses any of the following phrases:
"Hey, watch this!"
"Betcha I can..."
"Whoops"
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I'd jump all over that!!!! :x
Have fun! :aok
<S>
Grind
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http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=DFW05LA193&rpt=fa :devil
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ToeTag:
IMO that was an unneeded post. The pilot died in that accident. I do not find the post amusing in the slightest.
Sol
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Before I fly anything I check. It has a great record. I could only find 2 accidents.
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Before I fly anything I check. It has a great record. I could only find 2 accidents.
Still unneeded to post here, safety in an aerobatic plane such as the Edge is primarily a function of the pilot. The aircraft VERY RARELY fail, and most of the times such accidents are the result of pilot error, or the "Hey y'all watch this" Syndrome, as I call it.
Based on the narrative given in your post, it appears the pilot failed to level the plane fast enough following his 2nd hammerhead, or performed the hammerhead at too low of an altitude, and perhaps even induced a high speed stall by trying to pull out TOO quickly when he saw he was too low. The Edge, by design, can easily pitch rapidly enough to induce a high-speed stall. (this is desired for many aerobatic maneuvers).
Performing aerobatics at low altitude obviously carries certain risks with it, and should only be done for demonstration purposes. (airshows, practice for shows, etc).
I, for one, ESPECIALLY if I am carrying a passenger, will only peform aerobatics at a MINIMUM of 2500 feet AGL. I set that as a "hard deck" and during my practice, consider any excusrion below 2500 to have been a potentially fatal crash. In this way, I will learn, over time, to bring the "show" closer to the ground, to prepare for the time when I feel I am ready to begin performing at airshows and such.
Granted, I occasionally will perform basic aerobatics, such as aileron rolls, or inverted flight, at lower altitudes, but such maneuvers I consider safe, and consider myself proficient enough to perform at lower altitudes. But anything with a result of a significant descent rate, or nose down attitude, I only perform at altitude.
This will change when I have gottent o the point of practicing directly for a aerobatic routine/airshow, but ONLY when I am flying solo. I will always perform aerobatics with a "hard deck" when giving a passenger a demonstration flight.
(Please forgive my spelling, am typing one handed, as I got my hand caught in the prop of one of my RC planes a couple days ago, and have many stitches and heavy bandages on my left hand)
Sol
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Wow, in that case. Can I fly with you. You made me feel safe. lol
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(Please forgive my spelling, am typing one handed, as I got my hand caught in the prop of one of my RC planes a couple days ago, and have many stitches and heavy bandages on my left hand)
Sol
That is why I use a powered starter. owwww
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Me too on my smaller stuff shuff, but this was a DA50 turning a 23" prop... cant elec start those. Anwyay, it wasnt a normal hand in prop scenerio, I had started the engine, and was running it at about half throttle, was jsut getting rdy to stand up to walk behind the plane, when the hold back rope snapped, and the plane rolled forward. Out of instinct, I put my hand out to stop it, and right into the spinning prop.
All in all, probably a good thing, had i not done so it would have rolled right into me (i was sitting infront of it indian style, had been working on the engine) and the prop owuld have struck my calves, thghs, and possibly y crotch.
Sol
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Me too on my smaller stuff shuff, but this was a DA50 turning a 23" prop... cant elec start those. Anwyay, it wasnt a normal hand in prop scenerio, I had started the engine, and was running it at about half throttle, was jsut getting rdy to stand up to walk behind the plane, when the hold back rope snapped, and the plane rolled forward. Out of instinct, I put my hand out to stop it, and right into the spinning prop.
All in all, probably a good thing, had i not done so it would have rolled right into me (i was sitting infront of it indian style, had been working on the engine) and the prop owuld have struck my calves, thghs, and possibly y crotch.
Sol
Show 'em the "after" picture and all dem' stitches.
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Me too on my smaller stuff shuff, but this was a DA50 turning a 23" prop... cant elec start those. Anwyay, it wasnt a normal hand in prop scenerio, I had started the engine, and was running it at about half throttle, was jsut getting rdy to stand up to walk behind the plane, when the hold back rope snapped, and the plane rolled forward. Out of instinct, I put my hand out to stop it, and right into the spinning prop.
All in all, probably a good thing, had i not done so it would have rolled right into me (i was sitting infront of it indian style, had been working on the engine) and the prop owuld have struck my calves, thghs, and possibly y crotch.
Sol
actually, i thought i had seen onboard starters for r/c aircraft that big?
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Cap: really? I havent seen that yet... not doubting there is such a thing, I jsut havent seen it. Although I would think the weight could wind up being prhibitive, depending ont he type of aircraft you are flying.