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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Ozark on January 24, 2001, 10:49:00 AM
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The Yak has been my main ride this tour. I love the roll rate and the speed of the little critter. The 4 things I have learned so far is, keep it fast, use B&Z tactics, get close and personal when going to the guns, and the main thing is to have patience.
However, I need a few tips from other Yak drivers. You comments are welcomed.
Ozark
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332nd Flying Mongrels (http://www.ropescourse.org/flying.htm)
"I'd like to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather. Not yelling and screaming like his passengers."
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It's incredible. I flew it for the first time in 3 months and got 14 kills, rearming twice. I fly it like I fly my Spit. I use the vertical for offense (looping fights, boom and zoom, rope a dope) and turn for defense. But unlike the AH Spits, I can actually run away from something if I make a mistake.
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Originally posted by funked:
But unlike the AH Spits, I can actually run away from something if I make a mistake.
Sharping your skills for the Spit XIV, huh funked? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Yes or the LF Mk. IX (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I too have been giving the Yak a try. Its a very nice little kite. Yes, it feels SMALL to Spit pilots.
RAM,
Us Spitfire MkXIV and Fw190D-9 pilots are going to have to learn how to run with marginal speed advantages. They'll both be perks I'm guessing and every fast non-perk is going to be after us for the bonus poins of knocking us down.
I know you're hoping the Fw190D-9 won't be a perk and I agree with you, but I think we'll be disappointed on this count. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) Hopefully I'm wrong.
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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Sisu
-Karnak
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Originally posted by Karnak:
I too have been giving the Yak a try. Its a very nice little kite. Yes, it feels SMALL to Spit pilots.
RAM,
Us Spitfire MkXIV and Fw190D-9 pilots are going to have to learn how to run with marginal speed advantages. They'll both be perks I'm guessing and every fast non-perk is going to be after us for the bonus poins of knocking us down.
I know you're hoping the Fw190D-9 won't be a perk and I agree with you, but I think we'll be disappointed on this count. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) Hopefully I'm wrong.
Oh I'm not wrong. ;MW50 Fw190D9 is a plane only 7mph faster than P51 at the best of the altitudes, but way worse turner. if it is perked then the P51D should be perked too.
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Yet another RAM hijack. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by funked:
Yet another RAM hijack. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
"Use the force!"
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Ozark, get out of that Yak and into a real plane. That's my best advise. LOL! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) I flew the Yak quite a bit when I first got on AH. The only things I didn't like about it were the limited fuel and ammo. Otherwise a fantastic little plane.
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Yaks scare the hell outta me. Only plane I run against that out ponies the pony.. he dives better; accels better; turns WAY better and frankly if he see's me soon enuff and gets me defensive I'm just plain dead.
Only place I can work a Yak over comfortably is above 20k. Thank god they don't have a 4x20mm version of this thing.
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Hang
1st/AG "Bishlanders" << Recruiting!!
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It's kind of funny Jimdandy, those are some of the reasons I started flying. It taught me patience and discipline. Gone are the days that I would take a wild prettythang shot and hope for a hit. It made me stop and think before I engage...sometimes I find myself watching and waiting for that one close range shot.
Like Funked said, I can actually run away from something if I make a mistake. I have landed more missions this tour than any other.
Plus, it's a hoot to flying into a group of 10-20 bad guys at 400+ mph, only to wave and and outrun them. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Ozark, I think I am one of about 10 Yak die hards in Aces High (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I'm probably far from the best, but here's my advice:
1.) Stay fast, and use classic 109 style E fighting techniques.
2.) Nothing out loops a Yak, except maybe a G10 above 20k. Always use the vertical.
3.) Best defensive manuever in a Yak is the flat scissors, and rolling scissors can be thrown in for good effect.
4.) Contrary to popular belief the Yak is not a good turner, its middling at best. Well Almost (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) The Yak turns best to the right, where most aircraft are best turning to the left. So ALWAYS turn to the right (where once your good at it, you can almost out turn a average spit pilot). Also adapt your ACM thinking so that you begin all merge tactics to the right, to maximize your turn rate, but realize that this throws it into a same circle fight instead of what your use too.
5.) Be patient and get in close before you fire.
Anything else specific?
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Thanks Verm, (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Does the Yak have a turbo-charger or super-charger system and if so, what altitude will it kick in?
I'm sure I'll think of more questions later. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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4.) Contrary to popular belief the Yak is not a good turner, its middling at best. Well Almost The Yak turns best to the right, where most aircraft are best turning to the left. So ALWAYS turn to the right (where once your good at it, you can almost out turn a average spit pilot). Also adapt your ACM thinking so that you begin all merge tactics to the right, to maximize your turn rate, but realize that this throws it into a same circle fight instead of what your use too.
I'll ditto this. I noticed Offline that I couldn't hammerhead a Yak to the left easily, but go right and she's a beauty. If I only remembered that more often in turning fights.
I'm becoming a Yak-head... I find myself humming tunes about the Motherland while closing fast on bombers. I absolutely LOVE nailing buffs with this plane!!
She's also teaching me a lot about keeping enemies visible when entering vertical moves... having the see-thru seatback is NICE on this plane.
*S* and regards,
Jay.
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I flew the Yak a lot last tour and really liked it. The odd thing is that when I got a set of rudder pedals and stopped using my twist stick my Yak flying went down the tubes. Not really sure what the correlation is but it seemed like the controls went mushy on me.
Got my butt kicked so many times that I quit flying it for this tour, the funny thing is my FW flying got much better with the pedals.
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Milo
3./JG2
"Swager's Angels"
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Originally posted by Ozark:
It's kind of funny Jimdandy, those are some of the reasons I started flying. It taught me patience and discipline. Gone are the days that I would take a wild prettythang shot and hope for a hit. It made me stop and think before I engage...sometimes I find myself watching and waiting for that one close range shot.
Like Funked said, I can actually run away from something if I make a mistake. I have landed more missions this tour than any other.
Plus, it's a hoot to flying into a group of 10-20 bad guys at 400+ mph, only to wave and and outrun them. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
I been flying the 109G2 a lot. I can throw on a drop tank but it is doing a similar thing for me. It doesn't have a lot of ammo. It's not very fast in level flight so I have to think more about how I engage. Can't spray and pray as much. Have to get close and work it more. I might try going back to the Yak now and see.
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The YAK-9, quite basically, is a G10 with the bad characteristics taken away and a little climb rate gone as well.
Wish the LW had this plane; would fly it a lot.
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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
(http://us.st5.yimg.com/store4.yimg.com/I/demotivators_1619_4916770)
"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch
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That's enough leather boy.....keep your filthy hands off my little Yak!
Cobra
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I find the Yak too unstable in the pitch regime to hit anything--I dislike it very much, however, it was much better in 1.03.
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Excellent points, Verm (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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leonid, Kompol
5 GIAP VVS-KA, Knights (http://www.adamfive.com/guerrero)
"Our cause is just. The enemy will be crushed. Victory will be ours."
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I fly the Yak almost exclusively, and I find that it is a first rate pony destroyer. Most pony pilots I encounter will tangle with me for some odd reason then try to dart away when they realise it was a mistake (not because I'm any great pilot thats for sure). Anyway, it's the trademark runstang dive that I look for when I go for a shot. Some pony drivers wont even look back to see that I'm right on them. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
While the Yak is good at taking out buffs, I've been preferring the La5 as of late. It just takes too much ammo to down a buff with the Yak, even when you concentrate it on one wing.
The best thing with the Yak is most arena pilots underestimate it. At co-e, if a Mustang makes a run for it, you have time to catch him, and that's not something they usually anticipate.
Servo
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Yaks and La5's, my favourites!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I've been on a VVS-hunt ever since the first beta day, surprise surprise. But in the last few days I've really paid attention to my performance against them. That isn't too hard, since I run into them maybe once a day or so... I wonder why, since both planes are damn good. Maybe I should be glad that so few people fly them? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Anyway, the Yak is really a plane that needs to be dealt carefully in the G-2. The Yak outperforms the G-2 in every aspect, except maybe guns at ranges above 400m if the 109 is an /R6. In many cases I've survived only with the help of a squad mate.
In the last two or three days I've had to watch many a crippled Yak disappear into the horizon, simply being unable to catch as it runs away after being damaged... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) It sure is fast and accelerates well!
Camo
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Camouflage
XO, Lentolaivue 34
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Brewster into AH!
"The really good pilots use their superior judgement to keep them out of situations
where they might be required to demonstrate their superior skill."
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I love the Yak. Even got a five kill sortie in it last week (although I had to land and refuel/rearm in the middle), which is bloody good for me =)
Patience is the thing it's really taught me, I very rarely open fire above 150yds range unless the target is not manuevering of large (like a bomber). At that range it chews holes in anything. Getting in that close has taken me some time, but I can do it ragularly now. Guess it worries the guy I'm chasing a tad when I'm stuck to them like glue at 250yds and closing but not opening fire =)
I get more than the odd manuever kill too either when people try and follow my scissors at low alt or when they panic break turn into the ground as I dive in on them =)
Overall FUN FUN FUN!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Graywolfe <tim@flibble.org>
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Are you a real Yak fan or just a wanna be? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Here's how you know. How many Yak traps do you have on a CV? If you have more than 5, your a real Yak fan (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Originally posted by Vermillion:
Are you a real Yak fan or just a wanna be? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Here's how you know. How many Yak traps do you have on a CV? If you have more than 5, your a real Yak fan (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
I'm about to be a yak addict (just 4 at this time (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif))
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Yeah! YAK rulez.. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) hehe I started to fly it couple of months ago and Camo started to squeak me about flying enemy planes..but anyway 5-15 kill sorties weren`t rare with that bird. And shooting range decreased from 400 yrds to 100 yrds so U had to really think when put yer nose in. I used that even as interceptor with 25% fuel it can outfight many basestrafers (includeng chog) and it also outclimbs and dives the usual types. (at 250 IAS about 3k feet/min). Final weeks (when I still had an account) I flew La-5 because it had much more ammo and chogs need lotsa hits to bring em down.Soviet made fighters (at least these ones) kik really ass.. wondering what Finnish Air Force could have done if we could have had our hands on these birds... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (meaning if we could have captured about 50 planes ie. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
LLv 34 Jarsci