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Title: Meteor!!
Post by: Westy on September 17, 2009, 01:30:42 PM
(http://www.simviation.com/pageimages/Meteor5.jpg)

Flies like a dream too. Bit slower than 262 but hey it's something!
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: gyrene81 on September 17, 2009, 01:42:35 PM
In AH?  :O

That better be a big perk point plane...
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Strip on September 17, 2009, 01:50:41 PM
Looks like FSX?
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: StokesAk on September 17, 2009, 01:53:07 PM
In AH?  :O

That better be a big perk point plane...

Little less then a Tempest IMO, wasnt that fast.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: skribetm on September 17, 2009, 03:25:17 PM
i'd love to go hunting for some 262's in these.  :x
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Dragon on September 17, 2009, 03:36:09 PM
Too bad the pilot in there is singing " I'm to sexy for AH, to sexy for AH, I'm toooo sexy"
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Plazus on September 17, 2009, 05:00:15 PM
Did it even fly in WW2???  :huh
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Spikes on September 17, 2009, 05:17:58 PM
Did it even fly in WW2???  :huh

yes.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Westy on September 17, 2009, 06:25:32 PM
In WWII? Sure did.

FWIW I got it up to 689mph in a 45 deg dive from 27k before I had catastrophic
wing failure.  cool beans!

This bird may be a beast in ugly clothes!
 
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: chewiex on September 17, 2009, 06:32:02 PM
 :x Waitin for the " Hook and line" comment....
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: OOZ662 on September 18, 2009, 02:25:00 AM
Has it HOed anyone yet?
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Bruv119 on September 18, 2009, 02:28:06 AM
next patch please HTC !  

Make it so   :)


oh and a Spit mk 12, 18 and 21 to flesh out the spitfire series (need them late war spits) .  +  The mossie unleashed with bomber and anti shipping variant.  TYVM.  

+ a beaufighter for early war and scenarios!
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Noir on September 18, 2009, 02:37:55 AM
Spit XII  :O
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Yarbles on September 18, 2009, 02:46:33 AM
Little less then a Tempest IMO, wasnt that fast.

I thought we did this before and there were 2 versions in WW2 the later onE doing around 490mph even right down at grouNd level :aok

Perk it next to 262 though.

Imagine first day with all those people with un used perks upping them :x

I actually think people would burn off their perks for this.

Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Kazaa on September 18, 2009, 03:12:10 AM
The Meteor would be a fantastic addition to the LW plane set and would increase AH2's e-peen by a factor of 10.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: JunkyII on September 18, 2009, 03:19:00 AM
Ill tell you now I would be the PWN in it :rock
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: gyrene81 on September 18, 2009, 08:50:23 AM
All you jetmeisters should just ask for a Korean war era plane set and the arena to go with it...better yet an entire Korean war flight sim.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: MORAY37 on September 18, 2009, 09:29:58 AM
All you jetmeisters should just ask for a Korean war era plane set and the arena to go with it...better yet an entire Korean war flight sim.

+1 QFT

+The Meteor did not see air combat.

And yes, I know it flew against Buzz Bombs.  Someone will surely come along and tell me that shooting or rolling over an unarmed, unmanned bomb is aerial combat. :rolleyes: :lol
The Meteor does not meet HTC's criteria for addition to the planeset.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: RTHolmes on September 18, 2009, 09:46:11 AM
+The Meteor did not see air combat.

so? saw combat (armed reconnaisance, ground attack in enemy territory), served in squadron strength. fulfills the criteria. dont remember "had confirmed kills" being a criteria. if it is we should probably remove the C47.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: PanosGR on September 18, 2009, 10:00:12 AM
Well said it RTHolmes  :aok
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Westy on September 18, 2009, 10:27:30 AM
+ for RTHolmes!  the way I figire it is if Allies had been losing the war as bad as the Axis
were in 44 and 45 and the Axis planes filled the skies over the Allied homelands then just
about any Allied airplane from prototype on up would be considerined flown in a combat
environment too.  but that's not the way it was. However the FACT is the Meteor was
deployed and in FACT are so were the F7F, F8F, P51-H and P-82a.  Shouldn't handicap
the Allies simply because they ran out of targets to shoot down!  :x


"The Meteor does not meet HTC's criteria for addition to the planeset."'

Oh brother. As if you have any clue what their criteria is.  :lol


Anyway. Did HTC disable the Meteor in LW since last night? Can't see it in the hangar
selection list!!!  :mad:

Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Westy on September 18, 2009, 10:35:54 AM
oh!  and there's a damage bug. I lost one stablizer and engine the last flight
I had in one to the a B-24 tailgun. But the peices just disapeared? No smoke,
burn marks or bullet holes. Just "blink" and gone!

(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/pm0373635.JPG)
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Wreked on September 18, 2009, 11:31:25 AM
next patch please HTC !

+ a beaufighter for early war and scenarios!

Beaufighter - Now that would be a great addition - especially for the FSO and other special events.
Free Host WB had them and they were a handful to deal with - unfortuantely I never could. lol
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RE: Meteor - what was it's operational  history? - was it deployed in Europe or just Britain? - #'s? - year?
If there were enough in action then there should be one available IMHO.

Same with the B-29 <d,r,l,h>

cheers eh! :D
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: usvi on September 18, 2009, 11:52:41 AM
Has it HOed anyone yet?
:rofl
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: dmdchief on September 18, 2009, 12:27:04 PM
You know these trolls really ought to be against the law.  Maybe "KEEPING SANITY IN THE GAME, HR696969, sect.1,para a(5)
any of ya'll done a right click, properties, to see where the pics came from?   huhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: stroker71 on September 18, 2009, 12:31:34 PM
+ for RTHolmes!  the way I figire it is if Allies had been losing the war as bad as the Axis
were in 44 and 45 and the Axis planes filled the skies over the Allied homelands then just
about any Allied airplane from prototype on up would be considered flown in a combat
environment too.  but that's not the way it was. However the FACT is the Meteor was
deployed and in FACT are so were the F7F, F8F, P51-H and P-82a.  Shouldn't handicap
the Allies simply because they ran out of targets to shoot down!  :x


"The Meteor does not meet HTC's criteria for addition to the planeset."'

Oh brother. As if you have any clue what their criteria is.  :lol


Anyway. Did HTC disable the Meteor in LW since last night? Can't see it in the hangar
selection list!!!  :mad:



QFT  Do you think we would have the 163 if the germans were winning the war?  What are the criteria anyway?  Squadron strength? Saw combat?  What else?  If it's just those 2 then the Meteor meets the requirements.  Saw combat is the only viable argument against it...so what is saw combat?  Fired guns in anger..well it did against buzz bombs.  Engaged enemy AC...well that's sort of in question.  But HTC has the final say...not us.

DuHasst

PS and wouldn't it be fun to have a 262 vs Meteor fight.  Seems to me it would be as fun as any other fight between axis/allied AC.  Each has strengths/weaknesses to exploit.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Vinkman on September 18, 2009, 01:30:00 PM
In AH?  :O

That better be a big perk point plane...

What sim is this from, and while I remember AirWarrior, and warbirds, I'm not familiar with whether they or other MMO WWII combat sims are still around.

Is AH the only one still operating?
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Shuffler on September 18, 2009, 01:43:56 PM
Put on wishlist for the guys n the CV...

(http://www.pedal-my-car.co.uk/s%20images/corsair%20pedal%20planebig.jpg)
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: gyrene81 on September 18, 2009, 01:48:07 PM
What sim is this from, and while I remember AirWarrior, and warbirds, I'm not familiar with whether they or other MMO WWII combat sims are still around.

Is AH the only one still operating?
Well...
http://www.battlegroundeurope.com/ (http://www.battlegroundeurope.com/)

http://www.totalsims.com/ (http://www.totalsims.com/)

Could have also been an add-on for IL2 or maybe Targetware...maybe http://www.wbfree.net/ (http://www.wbfree.net/)

Ya just never know what you can find when you venture out of the closet...  :noid
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: phatzo on September 18, 2009, 08:50:24 PM
an apropriate shot for AHII

(http://www.australiantraveller.com/images/galleries/3117/025temora05jet.jpg)
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: texastc316 on September 18, 2009, 09:09:32 PM
Put on wishlist for the guys n the CV...

(http://www.pedal-my-car.co.uk/s%20images/corsair%20pedal%20planebig.jpg)

My 7 month old NEEDS that. I however will hold out for the one with all its engines.  :x
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: JunkyII on September 19, 2009, 09:11:34 AM
rather see a WW1 arena instead of a Korean war, be wierd with Korea, prop planes were used for ground attack but jets were the fighters seems like it would be able to be like AH.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Karnak on September 19, 2009, 05:40:31 PM
Little less then a Tempest IMO, wasnt that fast.
The Meteor Mk III would be the third fastest fighter in the game, were it added, with only the Me163 and Me262 being faster.

The Meteor Mk I wasn't very fast, but the main service version in WWII was the Mk III with a top speed of about 480mph and well over 430 or 440mph on the deck.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: BnZs on September 19, 2009, 09:25:16 PM
Besides gong over 400 on the deck and having quad Hispanos in the nose, the Meteor had a wing-loading lighter than many contemporary prop fighters. IOW, if added, it would justifiably be the highest-perked ride in the game.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Bruv119 on September 20, 2009, 12:44:21 AM
would love to see it!!   the 262 has been far too cocky all these years.  Like a spoilt only child getting it's own way.

It needs an allied competitor   :D

The 262 would still be able to HO or run away successfully.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Hajo on September 20, 2009, 08:38:43 AM
Meteors actually were in service by a few weeks before the 262.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Plazus on September 20, 2009, 09:04:00 AM
Meteors actually were in service by a few weeks before the 262.

And saw very short COMBAT action.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: OOZ662 on September 20, 2009, 09:06:46 AM
And saw very short COMBAT action.

Which, in terms of inclusion of the game, is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Ruler2 on September 20, 2009, 09:19:57 AM
an apropriate shot for AHII

(http://www.australiantraveller.com/images/galleries/3117/025temora05jet.jpg)


no phatzo,those trees look much too good and the ground isn't blurry  :D
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: crazierthanu on September 20, 2009, 09:57:57 AM
I would love to see it in game, Can't hit anything with the 262 anyways  :D
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Gabriel on September 20, 2009, 10:06:20 AM
I'm suprised this is not in game.

If for no other reason than to have an Allied Jet,  a counterpart  to (if inferior) to the 262
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: daddog on September 20, 2009, 11:17:00 AM
Would be nice and a great addition to the late war arena's. It would also find a home in Snapshots, Friday Squad Operations, and other events especially if they added the V1 or V2 with it. ;)



Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: waystin2 on September 20, 2009, 11:23:33 AM
Add it I say.  There is no verifiable reason not to. :aok
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Yarbles on September 21, 2009, 06:15:05 AM
So add it as long as it is the MK3.

I would like to see 2 LW areans with one including the jets and the other without.

I think the Jets are too interesting to omit but diminish from some of the great dynamic of the prop plane battle.

Beofre anyone starts I am sure thier is no case for the shooting star or sadly the vampire :rolleyes: :D
 
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: stroker71 on September 21, 2009, 02:29:16 PM
I'm suprised this is not in game.

If for no other reason than to have an Allied Jet,  a counterpart  to (if inferior) to the 262

As a fighter I would say it's better than the 262.  Bomber hunting still goes to the duece!  Is still think that a meteor vs 262 fight would be fun  :x

DuHasst
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: rstel01 on September 21, 2009, 04:04:35 PM
Why not the HE-162 Salamander (Which saw combat and a Tempest shot one down)?(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/He-162A-2DSCF0846.JPG/800px-He-162A-2DSCF0846.JPG)

Don't forget the P-80 and P-59!
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Spikes on September 21, 2009, 04:07:22 PM
P80 did not se service
P59:
Quote
Although no P-59s went into combat,
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 22, 2009, 06:26:41 AM
Every time I see someone asking for the Meteor before we have the He 111, G4M and Ki-43, I am posting this dramatic interpretation of the AH bbs:

http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=a62ce201f2faf028473747cce6fd8415 (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=a62ce201f2faf028473747cce6fd8415)
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Yarbles on September 22, 2009, 06:27:29 AM
As a fighter I would say it's better than the 262.  Bomber hunting still goes to the duece!  Is still think that a meteor vs 262 fight would be fun  :x

DuHasst

So is there a game out there with both of them in preferably with a free trial period?

I think we are unlikely to get it in the near future if ever and I would really like to fight this duel.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Karnak on September 22, 2009, 10:51:43 AM
Every time I see someone asking for the Meteor before we have the He 111, G4M and Ki-43, I am posting this dramatic interpretation of the AH bbs:

http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=a62ce201f2faf028473747cce6fd8415 (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=a62ce201f2faf028473747cce6fd8415)
I do think the B-29A and Meteor Mk III should be added eventually, but not before a great number of other aircraft.  In my opinion, that list is partially comprised of:


B6N2 "Jill"
Beaufighter
C.200
D4Y "Judy"
Do17
Do217
G4M2 "Betty"
He111
Il-4
J2M3 "Jack"
Ju188A
Ki-43 "Oscar"
Ki-44 "Tojo"
Ki-45 "Nick"
Ki-49 "Helen"
LaGG-3
Me410
MiG-3
P1Y1 "Frances"
Pe-2
SM.79-II
Tu-2
Wellington
Yak-1
Yak-3
Yak-7
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Yarbles on September 22, 2009, 10:54:12 AM
I do think the B-29A and Meteor Mk III should be added eventually, but not before a great number of other aircraft.  In my opinion, that list is partially comprised of:


B6N2 "Jill"
Beaufighter
C.200
D4Y "Judy"
Do17
Do217
G4M2 "Betty"
He111
Il-4
J2M3 "Jack"
Ju188A
Ki-43 "Oscar"
Ki-44 "Tojo"
Ki-45 "Nick"
Ki-49 "Helen"
LaGG-3
Me410
MiG-3
P1Y1 "Frances"
Pe-2
SM.79-II
Tu-2
Wellington
Yak-1
Yak-3
Yak-7

Yeah but you arnt going to shoot down many 262's in those :D
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Karnak on September 22, 2009, 11:05:06 AM
Yeah but you arnt going to shoot down many 262's in those :D
So?

And the J2M3, Ki-44 and Yak-3 have about as good a shot at getting an Me262 as all but the highest end prop fighters.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Yarbles on September 22, 2009, 11:22:02 AM
So?


Because it would be the great fight that never occured. It would be interesting to see with the modelling of the two planes which has the advantage.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Karnak on September 22, 2009, 11:25:49 AM
Because it would be the great fight that never occured. It would be interesting to see with the modelling of the two planes which has the advantage.
It played a very minor role in WWII.  Given the lack of so many aircraft that played much larger roles in WWII, I can't see giving the Meteor Mk III high priority just to see this, admittedly neat, what-if fight.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Yarbles on September 22, 2009, 11:38:14 AM
admittedly neat, what-if fight.

 :aok :D

Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: stroker71 on September 22, 2009, 02:55:45 PM
Good thing this is the "Wishlist" and not the "I want it now or I quit list"  I think the best thing about the wishlist is that it's easier to find the noobs, morons and people who know way to much about WW2 aircraft.  Seems there few people that start post from the middle!

DuHasst
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Squire on September 22, 2009, 03:29:07 PM
I like the Meteor, but the last thing AH needs is another freaking Jet.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: BnZs on September 22, 2009, 05:04:32 PM
Because it would be the great fight that never occured. It would be interesting to see with the modelling of the two planes which has the advantage.

I'd say the Meteor easily. The 262 is the worst-turning fighter in the game, the Meteor's is less than that of some prop fighters.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Gabriel on September 22, 2009, 05:05:45 PM
As a fighter I would say it's better than the 262.  Bomber hunting still goes to the duece!  Is still think that a meteor vs 262 fight would be fun  :x

DuHasst

I can't argue because to be honest I don't know about it's handling. With the jets I look at speed and climb first.  :)

How fun would that be to have Meteors and 262s duking it out.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 22, 2009, 06:05:56 PM
I'd say the Meteor easily. The 262 is the worst-turning fighter in the game, the Meteor's is less than that of some prop fighters.

Which is about as relevant as a duel between a P-47 and a Spitfire Mk V.
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: RedTop on September 22, 2009, 09:12:52 PM


.... may be a beast in ugly clothes!
 

I divorced her....
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Yarbles on September 23, 2009, 01:38:52 AM
Which is about as relevant as a duel between a P-47 and a Spitfire Mk V.

I agree the whole of the MA should be converted to an axis v allies scenario :D
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 23, 2009, 05:51:24 AM
Hmmm... I thought I was hinting that a duel between dissimilar aircraft doesn't prove anything.  Another example would be the F4F and A6M2.  1vs1 the A6M2 should win every time, but make the fight multi-vs-multi and suddenly the F4F mops up.  I suspect that something similar would happen with the Meteor and 262, but we may never know. ;)
Title: Re: Meteor!!
Post by: Yarbles on September 23, 2009, 06:26:58 AM
Hmmm... I thought I was hinting that a duel between dissimilar aircraft doesn't prove anything.  Another example would be the F4F and A6M2.  1vs1 the A6M2 should win every time, but make the fight multi-vs-multi and suddenly the F4F mops up.  I suspect that something similar would happen with the Meteor and 262, but we may never know. ;)

I am hoping we find out in the not too distant future :pray or sooner if their is another sim with both planes in it :rock