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Title: favortie plane?
Post by: l0newolf on September 18, 2009, 12:15:11 AM
hey there guys heres a question:witch plane is your favorite? and why




    mine is the brewster because it can turn like a spit on drugs and its got 4 50s whats more to ask for?  :)




      :salute
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Serenity on September 18, 2009, 01:33:03 AM
mine is the brewster because it can turn like a spit on drugs and its got 4 50s whats more to ask for?  :)




      :salute

Four Mk108s?
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Kazaa on September 18, 2009, 03:18:53 AM
a Spitfire with 4 20mm ?
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: JunkyII on September 18, 2009, 03:21:40 AM
hey there guys heres a question:witch plane is your favorite? and why




    mine is the brewster because it can turn like a spit on drugs and its got 4 50s whats more to ask for?  :)




      :salute
um, make it like a KI84......................... .....KI84 by far the best turn fighter in the game, has almost the climb of a 109 but the flaps of a Hog
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 18, 2009, 03:43:44 AM
um, make it like a KI84......................... .....KI84 by far the best turn fighter in the game, has almost the climb of a 109 but the flaps of a Hog

Zero, Brewster, Hurricane and a few other planes easily out turn the Ki-84.

ack-ack
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Charge on September 18, 2009, 07:04:53 AM
FW-190A8, I can always blame the ride when I get shot down.  :cry

-C+
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: B4Buster on September 18, 2009, 07:09:21 AM
um, make it like a KI84......................... .....KI84 by far the best turn fighter in the game, has almost the climb of a 109 but the flaps of a Hog

What Ki-84 are you flying? Yeah it's easymode...but not that easy  :D
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 18, 2009, 07:20:43 AM
109G-6.  Every time I shoot down a XVI with it, God lets another kitten into heaven.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Gattsu250 on September 18, 2009, 10:41:51 AM
FW190D9 is my favorite energy plane and Ki-84 is my favorite dogfight plane
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Angus on September 18, 2009, 01:12:30 PM
109G-6.  Every time I shoot down a XVI with it, God lets another kitten into heaven.

And kittens turn into... Pu$$ies  :devil
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Charge on September 18, 2009, 04:39:21 PM
"And kittens turn into... Pu$$ies"

You mean like those in...Rammstein's new "music video"?  :D

-C+
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: druski85 on September 18, 2009, 04:41:32 PM
109G-6.  Every time I shoot down a XVI with it, God lets another kitten into heaven.

Even more inspiration for me to fly it then.   :rofl
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: StokesAk on September 18, 2009, 04:44:33 PM
Let me be the one who says the P-38



thread pwned.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: l0newolf on September 18, 2009, 05:05:26 PM
Let me be the one who says the P-38



thread pwned.
   oh dammit stokes.....
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Krupinski on September 18, 2009, 06:08:07 PM
"And kittens turn into... Pu$$ies"

You mean like those in...Rammstein's new "music video"?  :D

-C+


Is it out already??  :x
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: LLv34_Snefens on September 19, 2009, 04:27:14 AM
I think for me it would still be the Me 410.  I don't know why exactly, but the cockpit would be really cool and the gunnery system for the rear gunner would be interesting.

I'm with Pyro here :)
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on September 20, 2009, 01:03:51 PM
Well don't have a "favorite" because situations vary in AH2 so much that you really need to have at least 2 fighters unless your an ace.

Mine are the La-7 for furballing. Lol everyone attacks me, but half are TERRIBLE turners. Omg, once I got into a turning fight with a Fw190A8.

The P-51D for sucker punching someone.
P-47N for multi role. I think it is one of if not THE most flexible planes in the game.
C205 because everyone I fight thinks it will be an easy kill, but sadly I've only gotten assists so far.
and Fw190D because I love it.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: FentFV on September 22, 2009, 12:03:38 AM
Yak-9U
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: DjFlyBoy on September 22, 2009, 12:43:53 AM
P-47 Thunderbolt :salute  t :rock
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Post by: Saurdaukar on September 22, 2009, 08:41:36 AM
K4
A5
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Rebel on September 22, 2009, 08:42:29 AM
<<<<<  P-47D-11

Because if you fly it smart you can catch anything, zoom up behind anything, and with 8 .50 cals at a short convergence, it's more like a buzzsaw then anything else.  

She's a great ol' gal :)
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on September 22, 2009, 06:48:42 PM
<<<<<  P-47D-11

Because if you fly it smart you can catch anything, zoom up behind anything, and with 8 .50 cals at a short convergence, it's more like a buzzsaw then anything else.  

She's a great ol' gal :)

Why does everyone fly the D-11 or D-40 instead of the N? The N is faster, right? Is the D-11 and D-40 more manuverable?
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: CAP1 on September 22, 2009, 06:59:10 PM
Well don't have a "favorite" because situations vary in AH2 so much that you really need to have at least 2 fighters unless your an ace.

Mine are the La-7 for furballing. Lol everyone attacks me, but half are TERRIBLE turners. Omg, once I got into a turning fight with a Fw190A8.

The P-51D for sucker punching someone.
P-47N for multi role. I think it is one of if not THE most flexible planes in the game.
C205 because everyone I fight thinks it will be an easy kill, but sadly I've only gotten assists so far.
and Fw190D because I love it.

I'VE SAID IN THE PAST,  that the c205 is underrated, and under used. it seems to be a great all around fighter.
i could never make it do what i wanted......but i've seen sme amazing poop when fighting against them.

i stay in either the 38j(most of the time) and lately the 38G. people seem to misjudge the g a lot.  :devil
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on September 22, 2009, 07:38:51 PM
Exactly. I can't do as many tricks in the C205, but what I can do is good enough. Shot down an La-7, an Il-2, a 190A8, and I think maby a P-51.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Plazus on September 22, 2009, 11:23:06 PM
This is too easy. Lets make this more simple:

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd6.jpg)

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd25.jpg)
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Guppy35 on September 23, 2009, 12:29:16 AM
I'm going to have to agree with the majority here and go with the 38s.

We will be having a SAPP intervention with the 82nd FG guys though as we've gotta get em below the clouds and down on the deck where the 38s belong! :)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Element.jpg)
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Post by: wgmount on September 23, 2009, 12:34:32 AM
Hogs. Because they look like an upside down seagull when swooping in for the kill.
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Post by: 5PointOh on September 23, 2009, 02:52:08 AM
Pfft... B/C Pony... then the 38

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z235/nathanyoung1980/S2010002.jpg)
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z235/nathanyoung1980/S2010004.jpg)
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Plazus on September 23, 2009, 09:48:30 AM
I'm going to have to agree with the majority here and go with the 38s.

We will be having a SAPP intervention with the 82nd FG guys though as we've gotta get em below the clouds and down on the deck where the 38s belong! :)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Element.jpg)

OMG on the deck??? Im going to be dizzy!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: CAP1 on September 23, 2009, 10:06:06 AM
OMG on the deck??? Im going to be dizzy!  :rolleyes:


it's ok.....the trees cushion your fall.

trust me, i know all too well.  :noid :rofl
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: curry1 on September 23, 2009, 02:02:21 PM
See Below
(http://military.discovery.com/tv/showdown/wallpaper/images/p-38-lighting-showdown-air-combat-1024.jpg)
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: JunkyII on September 23, 2009, 05:53:19 PM
Zero, Brewster, Hurricane and a few other planes easily out turn the Ki-84.

ack-ack
only the zero can keep up in vert though brewster and hurri would get ate up in a merge with a KI
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on September 23, 2009, 06:00:51 PM
I gota go with the P-47D-40/N. I know it's not really a dogfigher, but still, YOU GOT EIGHT FRIGIN' .50's!!!!!!!
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 23, 2009, 08:41:55 PM
only the zero can keep up in vert though brewster and hurri would get ate up in a merge with a KI

You said the Ki-84 was the best turn fighter in the game and I listed a couple of planes that can easily out turn the Ki-84.  Now you're changing your argument to 'vertical' fighting. 

In a angles fight, any of those planes I mentioned will be all over a Ki-84 if the Ki-84 was dumb enough to turn with those planes.  The Ki driver would have to use its better vertical performance to over come the better turning performance of those other planes.  But in a turn fight, Ki-84 loses against those planes I listed.


ack-ack
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: uptown on September 23, 2009, 09:33:45 PM
P51D. Beautiful lines, great ord & fuel load out, high speed flaps, dives awesome, bubble canopy, outstanding skins. Did i mention she's fast too?

The B17 because she looks like what bombers are supposed to look like. Tough as rawhide.

The 38J because of the challenge it is for me. She can leave you elated and break your heart all in the same sortie. Best sounding aircraft in the game.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: SectorNine50 on September 24, 2009, 04:18:54 AM
Mine is the P-51B/C as well.  I love that thing in-game and in person they are just way too pretty! :D

My favorite bomber is the B-25...  Not really for it's performance, but I think it's an absolutely gorgeous aircraft.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Rebel on September 24, 2009, 09:18:46 AM
Why does everyone fly the D-11 or D-40 instead of the N? The N is faster, right? Is the D-11 and D-40 more manuverable?

Well, Jug guys that fly the D-11 are out to fight.  End of story.  We go in and dogfight with a 7 ton airplane and actually enjoy it.  So far, therapy has failed us.  Medication is being developed.

The D-40 is heavier, but climbs better, and when you see one, most likely it's out to flatten the nearest major city with it's ord.  Oh yeah, and it has dive flaps.  It features more fuel, too. It doesn't turn as well as the D-11, isn't as stable in low speed maneuvers, in my experience it doesn't hold on to speed like the D-11 does (greater drag with that bubble top).  D-25 is the in-between.  Lighter then a 40, heavier then an 11, same drag problems, but an improved climb rate thanks to the paddle-prop and upgraded engine. Some extra gas, but not as much as a D-40 if I remember right.

The -11 is also faster then the other D Jugs, and accelerates better in a dive, holds on to energy a bit better, and is generally more "fighter" then "fighter-bomber". 

The N, however...

The N is a very mixed bag.  She was made for the long ranges involved in the Pacific, and they thought it a great idea to stuff gas in the wings.  No, they didn't have room, so they just made 'em bigger.  A lot bigger.  Your guns are farther out, making convergence a tricky issue, and leading to some very unintuitive solutions when at greater and shorter ranges then your conv setting. 

However, since they stuffed her full of gas, they thought it'd be a great idea to upgrade the power of the engine.  Like 700hp worth.  78" hg at the manifold, and it's a HUGE boon in performance gains.  She is MUCH faster across the board.  For 5 minutes.

But you pay a hefty price.  To stuff all that gas you need gas tanks, space, and that means weight.   A LOT of weight.  Even at WEP, the N doesn't climb for crap.  She'll dive, she'll roll, she'll zoom, she'll even run down a Mustang, but she won't climb. 

To me, the 11 is a more then capable airframe- the stability and lighter weight, coupled with the lower drag means that I can run down anybody...because I always come to the fight with an E-advantage.  Typically, I'll arrive at the party 5,000 feet above the quarrel, and dive in, and then zoom out before my energy margin runs too thin.  Or just dive and extend, whichever.  She's plenty fast, handles terrifically at speed, and is more then capable of putting up a fight against anyone provided you have that initial alt advantage. 

Maybe I haven't given the bubble-tops their fair shake yet.  Maybe I'm an old school "purist" and like flying a 1943 a/c in a 1944/5 dominated arena.  Whatever it is, I love my razorback :)  I'd LOVE to have a D-23 or an M Jug. 
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Karnak on September 24, 2009, 12:51:58 PM
Spitfire and Mosquito.  Both very good at what they did and very elegant lines.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 24, 2009, 04:22:26 PM
Rebel, speak for yourself.  I spank the crap out of D-11s when I fly the P-47N.  It's a far better airplane, both for energy fighting and mixing it up.  I tested this once with a comparable pilot.  We dueled in both aircraft, and in all trials the pilot in the N beat the pilot in the D-11.  I think it more or less convinced him of the N's superiority, as before that he was with you in believing the D-11 to be the better Jug.

For my part, the D-11 is too slow to be very competitive in the LWMA.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on September 24, 2009, 06:36:42 PM
Rebel, speak for yourself.  I spank the crap out of D-11s when I fly the P-47N.  It's a far better airplane, both for energy fighting and mixing it up.  I tested this once with a comparable pilot.  We dueled in both aircraft, and in all trials the pilot in the N beat the pilot in the D-11.  I think it more or less convinced him of the N's superiority, as before that he was with you in believing the D-11 to be the better Jug.

For my part, the D-11 is too slow to be very competitive in the LWMA.

And that is why I've always skiped to the N as well. I didn't KNOW it was better, but I had that nagging feeling in the back of my mind. And a plane that carry's 1 500lb bomb when it's later versions carry 5 times that much doesn't seem very dangerous, or at least powerful. But thanks for clearing that up for me. I know I'm well based when I choose the N from now on.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Spikes on September 24, 2009, 07:40:15 PM
And that is why I've always skiped to the N as well. I didn't KNOW it was better, but I had that nagging feeling in the back of my mind. And a plane that carry's 1 500lb bomb when it's later versions carry 5 times that much doesn't seem very dangerous, or at least powerful. But thanks for clearing that up for me. I know I'm well based when I choose the N from now on.
You backed up your statement when you said that heheh.

I like the D11 because I feel I'm in a better turning plane and I don't feel like Im lugging 3K of ord around (even if I'm not)...the D11 just feels lighter to me in fights.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: MjTalon on September 24, 2009, 07:45:51 PM
Just for the record. The N may be better on paper but I prefer the D-11. More history behind the razorback.

 ;)
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 24, 2009, 09:21:18 PM
Just for the record. The N may be better on paper but I prefer the D-11.

Oh come on now, you're the one who I was dueling, and you and I both did better in the N.  It's not just better on paper, it's better in fact.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Rebel on September 25, 2009, 10:47:01 AM
Oh come on now, you're the one who I was dueling, and you and I both did better in the N.  It's not just better on paper, it's better in fact.

It may be better all across the board.  But it's only that way for 5 minutes.   Once you run out of WEP, you're a dog.   Plain and simple.

What loadouts were you using, just out of curiosity?

I acknowledged the superior climbs and ord capabilities of the other bubbletops, and I acknowledged the N's vast superiority in performance under WEP. 

It's not a rip on the N Jug, dude, don't take it so personal ;)

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For my part, the D-11 is too slow to be very competitive in the LWMA.


Under it's own power,  at low altitudes, yes.  Yes it is.  However, if it got down low from say 6,000 feet in an unloaded WEP punched dive, she'll run away from pretty much anything.  If she drags, she has a terrific oppurtunity to pitchback suddenly and take the drooling fools behind her by surprise :)

Shot me down an LA7 and a Mustang that way about a year ago.

Now get her up high.  Nothing beats the Jugs up there.  And the N comes into a class of her own, giving the -4 hawg a run for her money.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: BnZs on September 25, 2009, 10:55:41 AM
Oh come on now, you're the one who I was dueling, and you and I both did better in the N.  It's not just better on paper, it's better in fact.

D-11 DOES sustain a better rate and radius of turn. Not that I don't believe you about the N being better because of more thrust and higher top speed. What the D-11 does better is pull some scissor-voodoo on the world's dumbest Spit and let one feel all self-congratulatory for the kill, despite the fact that tactically it was a dirt dumb move that quite possibly leads to you being killed by the other 5 bandits if any are there, and despite the fact that for every time one pulls something like that off there is another time where the Spit pilot has a functioning central nervous system and gets ye.... :devil
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 25, 2009, 11:46:49 AM
I can get a slightly better turn rate in the N than the D-11.  Radius will be a little bigger though.

It's not a rip on the N Jug, dude, don't take it so personal ;)

Sorry, I didn't like the generalization about D-11 pilots wanting to fight more than N pilots. :P

Loadouts were 50% fuel for both, IIRC, 8 gun package without extra ammo.

If any of you want a P-47D-11 - P-47N matchup to try it for yourself, I'd be happy to oblige.  The main reason for the N Jug's superiority seems to be vertical performance.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: BnZs on September 25, 2009, 11:51:57 AM


Loadouts were 50% fuel for both, IIRC, 8 gun package without extra ammo.



Wow...and that test is actually unfair to the N because it carries so much more fuel at 50%. Interesting results.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Rebel on September 25, 2009, 12:00:52 PM
Wow...and that test is actually unfair to the N because it carries so much more fuel at 50%. Interesting results.

Yep, that boost in power is NOT small, and is one of the largest in the game. 

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Sorry, I didn't like the generalization about D-11 pilots wanting to fight more than N pilots.

Loadouts were 50% fuel for both, IIRC, 8 gun package without extra ammo.

If any of you want a P-47D-11 - P-47N matchup to try it for yourself, I'd be happy to oblige.  The main reason for the N Jug's superiority seems to be vertical performance.


Well, I bet if you got her upstairs a bit, and cranked on the WEP, yeah it'd be better. 

That's interesting.  50% fuel for both, eh?  That 2800 is doin her job well then.

Suit yourself.  Razorback's still better :P
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Bosco123 on September 25, 2009, 01:18:40 PM
G14.
Nothing more to say.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on September 25, 2009, 06:49:56 PM
Just for the record. The N may be better on paper but I prefer the D-11. More history behind the razorback.

 ;)


It may be better all across the board.  But it's only that way for 5 minutes.   Once you run out of WEP, you're a dog.   Plain and simple.

Not nessicarily true, it will still outdive most planes without WEP, and uphigh, its still a pretty good plane. WEP isn't the be all and end all of fights. It helps, but it doesn't ensure you win.

What loadouts were you using, just out of curiosity?


Ummm, 50% fuel, center DT, bombs and rockets on the wings, overload gunpackage for the 8 .50's, if you want 6 .50's just the the P-51D.  I burn internal fuel first to where I have enought to make it back assuming 15-20 mins of combat. Then I switch to the DT and burn that untill I engage at which point I ditch it. The reason being you don't have to wait to burn the fuel to get lighter, all you have to do is dich the DT.


 

Under it's own power,  at low altitudes, yes.  Yes it is.  However, if it got down low from say 6,000 feet in an unloaded WEP punched dive, she'll run away from pretty much anything.

True of a lot of planes. Yeah the P-47 dives better because she's got all that weight behind her, but say, if you dive in a heavy P-38, you'll get much the same result when compared to planes worse in a dive.


Now get her up high.  Nothing beats the Jugs up there.  And the N comes into a class of her own, giving the -4 hawg a run for her money.

True, up high, the Jugs OWN. At their optimum alt, jugs'll beat about anything you meet, provided you don't suck and your not facing an ace, with the exception of the jets.
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Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Warlock (Trey) on September 25, 2009, 09:05:24 PM
FW 190 A8, Rolls like a demon and can punch VERY hard...
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on September 25, 2009, 09:49:16 PM
shade :noid....
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Hartmann603 on September 28, 2009, 09:01:15 PM
Stick me in a ME109, a Zero, or a FW 190A8 and I'll be in heaven :aok
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: nick172 on September 29, 2009, 09:07:13 AM
109-g2 best fighter plane in the game in my humble opinion. Not many planes that it cannot beat one on one. Used to be the 38, but... a 38 is toast to a well flown 109g2 1 vs 1. (flew the 38 as my main ride for 6 months or more, not saying there are not pilots that can beat me in a 38, but a good stick in a 38 and a good stick in a 109g2, the g2 will win.)

Side note, the 110C is a surprizingly nimble fighter, easy kill if you know that before hand but still. dont know why I thought of that.

Skyhawk
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: edge12674 on September 29, 2009, 10:17:57 AM
A6M5 for me.  Nothing beats the thrill of twisting and turning while fighting two or three at a time and still managing to get kills. 

Saburo Sakai once stated in an interview that fighting American planes in a Zero was like fighting an armored knight wearing only a loin cloth and armed with a dagger.

TShark
=Ghosts=

"If you're alone and meet a lone Zero run like hell, because you're outnumbered" - Joe Foss  USMC
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on September 29, 2009, 09:24:55 PM
A6M5 for me.  Nothing beats the thrill of twisting and turning while fighting two or three at a time and still managing to get kills. 

Saburo Sakai once stated in an interview that fighting American planes in a Zero was like fighting an armored knight wearing only a loin cloth and armed with a dagger.

"If you're alone and meet a lone Zero run like hell, because you're outnumbered" - Joe Foss  USMC

Your only landing those kills if I'm not in the area shooting your wing off. Zeros are easy kills if you fight them right.

Damn strait you only got a dagger. And American planes (particularly the hellcat, and P-47) can dish it out AND take it.

Good thing like 95% of fighters can run from one.


Hey, was anyone in the LW arena around the 11Th, or 12Th (sometime around there) when that base got mobbed by zeros? I think I might have a vid of it. Seriously, like 99% zeros with a hellcat, seafire, or C-hog in for variate's sake.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: edge12674 on September 30, 2009, 10:18:25 AM
Your only landing those kills if I'm not in the area shooting your wing off. Zeros are easy kills if you fight them right.

That is the beautiful thing about flying the Zero, most players see an "easy kill" and in turn are killed easily!  I just have to grin when I land kills consisting of 190's, P-51's, P-47's, and Spit16's.

TShark
=Ghosts=
"If you're alone and meet a lone Zero run like hell, because you're outnumbered" - Joe Foss  USMC
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 30, 2009, 12:22:04 PM
That is the beautiful thing about flying the Zero, most players see an "easy kill" and in turn are killed easily!  I just have to grin when I land kills consisting of 190's, P-51's, P-47's, and Spit16's.

TShark
=Ghosts=
"If you're alone and meet a lone Zero run like hell, because you're outnumbered" - Joe Foss  USMC

Most players see it as an easy kill because it is.  As long as you don't get suckered into a luftberry turn fight against a Zeke, it's a relatively easy kill.

ack-ack
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on September 30, 2009, 04:27:19 PM
Most players see it as an easy kill because it is.  As long as you don't get suckered into a luftberry turn fight against a Zeke, it's a relatively easy kill.

ack-ack


Thats pretty much what I was saying. My attitude toward the zeros are "screw it, I ain't turning, I'll BnZ the guy and see how he likes that.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: BnZs on September 30, 2009, 05:18:43 PM
Zeke is not an easy kill with a good pilot in it, although practically anything can leave the fight at will when it isn't going their way. The REAL problem you face though, is if the Zeke pilot, good, bad or indifferent, realizes you won't play his game and decides to simply swap ends and HO on every pass, which thing he can easily do. Then you have your choice of destroying the fool while likely taking bad damage himself or just finding a less asinine target.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on September 30, 2009, 05:39:38 PM
Zeke is not an easy kill with a good pilot in it, although practically anything can leave the fight at will when it isn't going their way. The REAL problem you face though, is if the Zeke pilot, good, bad or indifferent, realizes you won't play his game and decides to simply swap ends and HO on every pass, which thing he can easily do. Then you have your choice of destroying the fool while likely taking bad damage himself or just finding a less asinine target.


Yes, but what I've found with around 50% of zeke pilots is that they get too focused on who they're going after and their SA steeply declines for about 2mins (they get a check 6 call, and remember for a bit) or untill they make their kill.

And you can't really know who is going after you instead of the guy dragging off your chase plane.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Karnak on September 30, 2009, 06:06:38 PM
My highest kill sortie ever was in the A6M5b, 12 kills, no vulchs and no rearm.  Not many luftberry turnfests either.  Lots of snap shots and quick kills in a quarter turn.  I am not really very good though, I was just in the groove that day.  My other high kills in one sortie are 8 and I've done that in the P-38L, Typhoon, Mosquito, N1K2-J and Ki-84.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on September 30, 2009, 06:10:36 PM
nice. Better than mine. I havent landed any kills , sure in a gunship or field gunner, but I haven't LANDED kills yet. I stick around too long, and get killed by ack too much. I think I have like .1 something out to like 8 numbers as my KTD ratio. At least I killed you guys in a parachute....
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: edge12674 on October 01, 2009, 10:21:35 AM
Zeke is not an easy kill with a good pilot in it, although practically anything can leave the fight at will when it isn't going their way.

Yes, most other planes can leave the fight, but they usually don't.  I enjoy getting a pilot using B&Z tactics to waste his E on several passes.  They get impatient and slow...I get the kill.  Every once in a while I encounter a B&Z pilot that sticks to his tactics.  When he does, then the fight remains a draw so long as I do not make a mistake.

To be successful in a Zero requires patience, better than average SA, and good snapshot gunnery. 

The fun thing about AH is that there are many ways to fight.  The kills are sweeter to me when my opponent started with an advantage.  Spending my playing time trying to out climb my opponent just isn't fun for me.  :D

TShark
=Ghosts=
"If you're alone and meet a lone Zero run like hell, because you're outnumbered" - Joe Foss  USMC
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on October 01, 2009, 08:55:58 PM
Yes, most other planes can leave the fight, but they usually don't.  I enjoy getting a pilot using B&Z tactics to waste his E on several passes.  They get impatient and slow...I get the kill.  Every once in a while I encounter a B&Z pilot that sticks to his tactics.  When he does, then the fight remains a draw so long as I do not make a mistake.

To be successful in a Zero requires patience, better than average SA, and good snapshot gunnery. 

The fun thing about AH is that there are many ways to fight.  The kills are sweeter to me when my opponent started with an advantage.  Spending my playing time trying to out climb my opponent just isn't fun for me.  :D

TShark
=Ghosts=
"If you're alone and meet a lone Zero run like hell, because you're outnumbered" - Joe Foss  USMC


I bet that your a better pilot than me, but I could still beat your zeke in fight starting out fair :all I have to do is get some speed and start BnZ'ing you.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: morfiend on October 02, 2009, 12:39:53 PM
My favorite plane is my footprint#9!

 although I have an old wooden Jackplane{of unknown origin}{possibly handmade} that ranks right up there with the "footprint"!

 Then theres my dweeb ride,my Bosch power plane.......


 Oh just realized you guys were talking about Aircraft,dang wrong forum again!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl

   :salute
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on October 02, 2009, 06:41:40 PM
My favorite plane is my footprint#9!

 although I have an old wooden Jackplane{of unknown origin}{possibly handmade} that ranks right up there with the "footprint"!

 Then theres my dweeb ride,my Bosch power plane.......


 Oh just realized you guys were talking about Aircraft,dang wrong forum again!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl

   :salute


Lay off the morphine....
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: morfiend on October 02, 2009, 07:00:31 PM

Lay off the morphine....

 See there you go again.... you have no idea who I am,if I take morphine and or why!

  My suggestion to you is to think before you speak,ya might be a new concept and difficult to implement but try it before you end up hurting yourself!
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on October 02, 2009, 07:06:29 PM
See there you go again.... you have no idea who I am,if I take morphine and or why!

  My suggestion to you is to think before you speak,ya might be a new concept and difficult to implement but try it before you end up hurting yourself!



It was a joke....calm down man. I would have said something similar to WWhisky.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on October 02, 2009, 11:00:45 PM
Hey I have a question....

I'm looking to get into the Hogs and my skill set is tailored to BnZ, being faster than 80% of planes, with some turning thrown it. I almost never use climb or anything like manuvering flaps in combat, I have enough to purchace the C-hog, but not the F4U-4 (BTW what is its nickname?), so what I want to know is which hog is best tailored to my skill set. I fly 5k all the way up to 15k if that maters.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: edge12674 on October 03, 2009, 11:18:19 AM

I bet that your a better pilot than me, but I could still beat your zeke in fight starting out fair :all I have to do is get some speed and start BnZ'ing you.

I've been fighting in the Zero since 1993 (AirWarrior to Confirmed Kill to Warbirds to Aces High) and I am always willing to learn from my opponents.  Perhaps you could teach me a lesson in the dueling arena sometime. :salute

TShark
=Ghosts=
"If you're alone and meet a lone Zero run like hell, because you're outnumbered" - Joe Foss  USMC
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on October 03, 2009, 11:21:52 AM
Will once I get back on agian. I get a new machine that can handle the game and what do you know? The credit card expires....


If your leaving the game before Feb. then I probably can't. <S>
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Plazus on October 09, 2009, 09:50:14 AM
Well Im going to have to put the P47M at the top of my list!  :devil
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: comet61 on October 09, 2009, 02:20:59 PM
I have grown quite accustomed to the Ki-84. Probably not a great stick, but no slouch either.  ;)
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Plawranc on October 09, 2009, 08:09:49 PM

Spitfire XVI.

I know I am going to get noobed to death but hear me out.

Fast, Very agile, Forgiving, Stable gun platform, INSANE power to weight and climb rate

Plus with an experienced pilot behind the stick (me) she can take 6 enemies on and win (which I have done)

But in a very close second I agree with strokes P38 J.

                            :airplane:
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on October 09, 2009, 08:45:47 PM
I've been fighting in the Zero since 1993 (AirWarrior to Confirmed Kill to Warbirds to Aces High) and I am always willing to learn from my opponents.  Perhaps you could teach me a lesson in the dueling arena sometime. :salute

BTW, I'm in no way insulting you. I'm just saying that the zero is a tough plane to beat when you fight how it wants, but if you play your own game its danger is greatly diminished....
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 09, 2009, 08:50:43 PM
I've been fighting in the Zero since 1993 (AirWarrior to Confirmed Kill to Warbirds to Aces High) and I am always willing to learn from my opponents.  Perhaps you could teach me a lesson in the dueling arena sometime. :salute

TShark
=Ghosts=
"If you're alone and meet a lone Zero run like hell, because you're outnumbered" - Joe Foss  USMC


Like I said previously, the only chance a Zero has is if the other guy gets dumb and plays the Zero's game.  But then, what do I know?  Only been flyin' the P-38 and killin' the Zero since I started playing these silly games in '93.


ack-ack
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: edge12674 on October 12, 2009, 12:14:11 PM
BTW, I'm in no way insulting you. I'm just saying that the zero is a tough plane to beat when you fight how it wants, but if you play your own game its danger is greatly diminished....

No offense taken!  :D
I guess my point is that blanket statements that a particular plane is an "easy kill" points more towards a pilot that doesn't know how to fight in it more than anything else.  To me the addicting thing about AH is that there is a definite psychological element that, if not taken into account, changes the outcome of the battle regardless of what aircraft you are flying.

A successful Zero pilot has to bait most other enemy aircraft into flying "his game".  Just as a P-47 pilot must bait a 262 into "his game".  The greater the challenge the sweeter the victory!  :devil

Tshark
=Ghosts=
"If you're alone and meet a lone Zero run like hell, because you're outnumbered" - Joe Foss  USMC 26 kills
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Kurtank on October 12, 2009, 01:29:37 PM
I haven't flown in over a year, much to my chagrin. Though if I was forced to make a decision now, my favorite planes would have to be the P47M (I've flown D-11's, D-40's and the N a few times, and the D-11 at 30k in a MoM. Handled like a dream. So I think me and the M are gonna get along just fine), the 109G6, the Ki-84, C.205, P-39D, the 152, and of course, the FM2. I used to love roping XVI's into turn fights. Smoked at least 20 spits that way.

That being said, I'm pretty sure me and the brew would get along fine if I flew at all today.
Title: Re: favortie plane?
Post by: Nemisis on October 12, 2009, 09:09:35 PM
No offense taken!  :D
I guess my point is that blanket statements that a particular plane is an "easy kill" points more towards a pilot that doesn't know how to fight in it more than anything else.  To me the addicting thing about AH is that there is a definite psychological element that, if not taken into account, changes the outcome of the battle regardless of what aircraft you are flying.

A successful Zero pilot has to bait most other enemy aircraft into flying "his game".  Just as a P-47 pilot must bait a 262 into "his game".  The greater the challenge the sweeter the victory!  :devil

I know how to fight in the zero, but I just never could land the kills. I'd hang around to long or deplete my cannon ammo, and get jumped on the way home. Plus I can't seem to bait as many people in to fighting me. I spent a lot of my time flying around the furball waiting for some nube to come attack me...

But you are right, it is partialy psychological. Its also the fear factor, no one seems to want to fight the 262's or 163's, yet when I try to intercept them, I'm usually the one flying away from the chutes of their kills.

And nice kurtank, c205 is a good plane.