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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: morfiend on September 18, 2009, 11:06:53 AM
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I've been having a problem with my vox and cant seem to solve it!
In game it sounds like the mic is clipping or cutting out,I've tried adjusting mic,new sound card,different headset,front panel/back panel conections,etc.
It seems to work in other programs,skype,teamspeak,etc but for the life of me I cant get it working right ingame.
I use Vista64,soundblaster sound card Xfi,plantronics headset. I'm not sure what I've overlooked but I could use some help/advice...
TIA
:salute
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do you try another mike? I keep swithcing them because one will develop problems that fix themselves over time.
semp
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Try backing up AH, then delete the original AH, reinstall AH and see if that works.
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Not sure if it will help, but before you try deleting and reinstalling, go to your AH2/Settings folder. Rename ahvoc.cfg and then try running the game. You will then probably have to set your voice prefs again...
FYI, here's my ahvoc.cfg contents:
0,UseWaveIn
0,RangeChannelBeeps
0,TuneChannelBeeps
1.00,MicVolume
1.00,SpeakerVolume
0.18,EfffectVolume
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Try backing up AH, then delete the original AH, reinstall AH and see if that works.
you dont have to delete the whole game. besides backing it up saves the problem he is having due to you are saving the files that the bug is in.
i would go with trying to use a diffrent mic first and let us know how that works for you
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I think it is the positioning of your mic and that ah seems to boost mic settings . I have noticed that what sounds good in windows seldom sounds good in game . What I have done is setup my mic so it is just audible in windows ,no more than that . Note the position of your mic ,make sure you have the same general positioning . If you are still cutting out lower the mic settings in windows . When I got new pc I had this problem bad . This has worked for me .
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Thanks guys,tried Hlbly's idea and it works somewhat better!
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Thanks guys,tried Hlbly's idea and it works somewhat better!
if that worked then it makes me want to ask do you have mic boost turned on in advance settings on windows and in the game
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Killz,
what I did was,set lowest recording level{16 bit} lowered mic level to 10%, enabled boost and that seemed to do the trick.Is it perfect? no but the clipping is gone for the most part.
Vista doesnt have a hardware acceleration so I wasnt able to lower it,so I checked my sound card and it was set to 24bit sound at studio quality,I lowered that to 16bit cd quality,it's lowest setting and tried that.I still was getting clipping so I tried Hlbly's idea and lowered the mic to around 10% this seemed to reduce the clipping and allows me to say more that 1 word....
Anyone experencing vista vox woes might try this and see if it helps!
Again thx to all the helped.
:salute
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The problem is the sound card. Vista works best with better sound cards like the HT Omega Striker 7.1 whereas the XFi (even the best one) will introduce anomalies and in the worse case terrible stutters (the low end XFi is really 16-bit and depends heavily on the CPU). I dont believe it will be much different under Win7.
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Is your plantronics headset a USB version?
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Kermit,
No it's a basic analog set,plugs direct to sound card.
Chalenge,
It's an older Xfi gamer extreme,I had in an old machine.I put it into my new computer because I was having vox issues while using onboard sound.
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Morfiend,
I used to be/am an audio nut. Clipping can occur in a number of places - in each case it occurs because you exceed the volume limit of whatever part you are "driving".
Signal chain roughly:
Mic -> Sound card -> Windows -> AH Program -> AH Output
From what you've said, everything is fine up to Windows. Then something happens around Windows->AH Program -> AH output. In light of this, hlbly's suggestions seem to be the most reasonable fix. Mess with the AH program's settings to determine if it's AH Program -> AH Output. Likewise, mess with Windows settings to see if it's Windows->AH program. When you find out which it is, just lower the volume before the component which clips and boost it after that same component.
Bit rate: I've had problems with sound cards trying to convert back and forth between 16 and 24 bit. If you honestly don't know/can't tell the difference, stick with 16 bit for everything - it's less resource intensive (though this should hardly be an issue) and more straightforward.
Small primer: bit rate defines the "noise floor". The higher the bit rate, the lower the noise floor and therefore the bigger the difference in volume from the loudest possible sound and the quietest possible sound.
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Vista
my apologies i did not see you where using vista I DONT KNOW JACK ABOUT VISTA
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It sounds like you've pretty much gotten yourself up and running again, but one other thing to try is using "Wave Out" from inside the AH2 voice prefs. Sometimes that helps when people have transmission problems.
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Kermit,
No it's a basic analog set,plugs direct to sound card.
Chalenge,
It's an older Xfi gamer extreme,I had in an old machine.I put it into my new computer because I was having vox issues while using onboard sound.
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Yes its junk for a Vista machine. Sorry. I have the same card here and I tried it. Waste of a good PCI slot.
The best card for the money (for Vista and probably Windows 7) is the HT Omega Striker 7.1 even though you can buy better cards they will be more money. I am planning on trying the Auzentech (I forgot which model but it IS a XFi its just NOT brand 'C') in PCIe but I havent yet. Seems risky to me.
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So chalenge,what your saying is that the SB sound card is junk when used in Vista??
That doesnt bother me,like I said it was taken out of an old machine.I was hoping it would solve the problem I was {already} having with my vox. The problem occured after 1 of the updates in 2.14,I'd had issues with vox when I first got my Vista machine but after SP1 they seemed to be solved. Then during the updates I developed this clipping prob.I've asked quite afew players for tips or help,as I'm not the most computer literate guy.Several interesting things came out of this,first vista handles sound different than XP.Then I found out that the sound bit rate could be causing issues and now I find the SB cards and vista dont play nice.
At present I have my vox at a workable state,this makes helping with training abit easier for me and the main reason I've even bothered to post about it.
I understand the game is influx so to speak,all these great new update,new Ac etc. so I've been waiting for everything to settle down and hopefully it will all come out in the wash.... :aok
Till then I'll do what I can to work things out on my end and if simply purchasing a different sound card will solve it then I await your recomendations....
:salute
PS: killz,no worries thanx anyways........ ya vista gotta just luv it.....not!
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Delirium look at your sound card to see if it has a heatsink on the processor. If so they you have the newer version and you should scrap the drivers disk and download the drivers direct from Creative. This will get the bulk of the bloatware off your hard drive also as long as you dont install them again. If you already did that and you are happy with it the way its running your good. If your not happy or if you see lag during audio loads (airplanes spawning on a runway or bombs dropping or incoming vox) then you are seeing why I dont like even the new version.
If you dont have a heatsink on your sound card you have the older junk card I am talking about. Pretty much I think Creative cards are junk anyway but thats why we all have opinions and you can choose who to listen to.
I already recommended the HT Omega Striker 7.1 for Vista and thats what I plan on using for Win7 also.
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I've been having a problem with my vox and cant seem to solve it!
In game it sounds like the mic is clipping or cutting out,I've tried adjusting mic,new sound card,different headset,front panel/back panel conections,etc.
It seems to work in other programs,skype,teamspeak,etc but for the life of me I cant get it working right ingame.
I use Vista64,soundblaster sound card Xfi,plantronics headset. I'm not sure what I've overlooked but I could use some help/advice...
TIA
:salute
Morfiend - Think I figured it out. I have a new CPU and have VISTA 64 Bit. Here is what I finally figured out as I was having same problem as you. This took me about 15 hours... :x
Control Panel
VIA HD Audio Deck (Sound Card)
Bottom Left click on "Expert"
At top find "Front Mic" Tab
-Set Volume on Horizontal slide called "REC Volume" to 90%
-Vertical Slides ("REC Volume" & "Speaker Volume") to 90%
-Click on "MIC Boost"
-Set "Volume Gain" to 18dB
-Click on AGC and test. Ensure you click on end test when done. Do this several times.
Next, look to the left. You should see 2 tabs. The bottom tab is a sort of squiggly lined Icon. Click it.
Select 96K and Select 16 Bit. You shoudl be done here and it should work. Ensure the "Wave In" in the game is de-selected.
Hope this helps!
:rock
SlipKnt
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LOl chalenge,I think you got Del and me mixed up somehow....
Anyways it seems to be working fine now!
Slip,I checked my control panel and those settings must be exclussive to your soundcard.
Being I'm sorta old school,I set vista to classic view and all my sound settings are labeled "sounds" and I'm unable to find anything resembling the configuration you've nicely laid out for me.
Again I'd like to thank all those who helped and tried to help,this has got to be 1 of the best communities in all PC gaming. :aok
:salute
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LOl chalenge,I think you got Del and me mixed up somehow....
Yes I did... late night drinking :)