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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: eskimo on November 27, 2000, 07:53:00 AM
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I asked my squad what they knew about the Japanese copy of the DC-3/C-47. Wabbit sent the following information:
"L2D Showa/Nakajima
The L2D was the Japanese license-built version of the Douglas DC-3,
of which 20 had been imported from the US before the Second World War.
Subassemblies for two more DC-3s and their US engines were also
acquired. These were assembled by Showa as patterm aircraft in 1939-40
and designated L2D1 or Navy Type D (for Douglas) Trampsort. The initial
Japanese production version, with 1000-hp Mitsubishi Kinser 43 radial
engines, was the L2D2 or Navy Type 0 Transport Model 11. Nakajima built
71 of these, but all further production of this and later models was by
Showa and totalled 414. Its operating efficeiency and payload capacity
quickly made it the standard naval air force transport.
Although numbers were relatively small, it was used extensively
throught the entiere Pacific war, and was codenamed 'Tabby' by the
Allies. A cargo version of the L2D2, with double loading doors on the
port side and a reinforce cabin floor, was designated L2D2-1.
The main production series, the L2D3 (personnel) and L2D3-1 (cargo)
Model 22 versions, featured 1300-hp Kinsei 51 engines and additional
windows aft of the flight deck. Counterparts with Kinser 53 engines -
also of the 1300-hp - were designated L2D3a and L2D3-1a. These were
followed by the experimental L2D4 (personnel) and L2D4-1 (cargo) Model
32, equipped with a 13-mm (0.51-in) Type 2 machine-gun in a doral turret
and two 7.7 -mm (0.303 -in) Type 92 guns firing from hatches in the
fueslage sides. At the end of the war, Showa was developing the L2D5
Model 33, a wood and steel construction version with 1560-hp Kinsei 62
engines and L2D4 armament.
wabbit"
This aircraft could be modeled in AH for use in a Pacific Historical Arena by only changing the ID icon and markings from U.S. to Japanese!
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Not a bad idea!, also they had a better view from the cockpit more windows to the rear, an extra one on each side in the cockpit. Hey add the on with the guns!!!!
Brady
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(http://www.russian.ee/~star/pictures/russia/li-2.jpg)
Lisunov Li-2 "Cab" - 4863 built under license
And from Maddox Il-2 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
(http://ftp://ftp.bluebyte.com/il2/Li-2_1.jpg)
Hmmm, no ftp linking...
(http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/l2dpic.gif)
Douglas L2D "Tabby" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by juzz (edited 11-27-2000).]
[This message has been edited by juzz (edited 11-27-2000).]
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Well, I didn't know this is what Eskimo had in minde when he asked about the showa, but I agree whole-heartedly.
Each major participant in WWII, ie German, Brit, Jap, Italian, Russian, should have at least 1 bomber, transport,and ground vehicals.
I think the Jap version of the DC-3 should not only be added to the historical arena, but to the main. It seems like it would be an easy addition, with minor changes from the american version. Probably the hardest part would be to set up it's characteristics using the engines the Japs used. And YES!!! Definitely add the one with the guns!!! Give us goonie drivers some means of shooting back.
wabbit
The Dammed Maintenance Officer
The Buccaneers
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Great find on the Lisunov Li-2 "Cab", Juzz!
Never heard of it.
It would be cool to adjust performance levels for the different AC and add guns etc.,
but the point is that that we could have a Japanese and Russian transport with absolute minumum modifications to the C-47.
Of course I am assuming that we will get a HA that they could be used in, otherwise it's no big deal.
eskimo
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cc...Wabbit
Brady
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Enough of the C47!!!
Give us each countries most common unique transport!!
I'm sick of everywhere I look I see a c47!! +)
Even if the only difference is its external appearance oh and maybe armament
AKSKurj
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What you're really saying, is that you want "Tante Ju" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/lrg0574.jpg)
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/lrg0781.jpg)
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Tante Ju, TanteJu ,Tante Ju,OH YA WANT IT GOTA HAVE IT!!!!!!!!
Brady
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Tante Ju why "Tante" ? it's an German plane not an French one (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
can someone explain the origin of the nickname to me ?
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Tante Ju == "Auntie" Junkers.
[This message has been edited by Sancho (edited 11-28-2000).]
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Originally posted by Sancho:
Tante Ju == "Auntie" Junkers.
Ok but why in french ?
hehe (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)