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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: brastinson on September 18, 2009, 11:05:28 PM
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What if there were barrage balloons above the towns. And I have searched and nothing came up.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,216687.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,216687.0.html)
:rofl
btw i searched for "barrage balloon" and got 2 pages of posts ...
edit: I got 2 pages of results when I used advanced search, none using quick search. quick search is broken.
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A +1.
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Depends, if you are going to have them over everything, then no. Not if they trigger the bombs to explode. As long as you can kill them and all they do is keep you from dive bombing untill they are dead or unless you are an AMAZING pilot and can dodge the ballons all while aiming.
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But.... It would be catastrophic!
(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1125/hab.jpg)
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But.... It would be catastrophic!
and yet so much fun. Imagine seeing a pony or fw diving to the ground because you outturned :uhoh him and now his killing streak is in danger :rofl :rofl :cry :cry :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
semp
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Depending on the number of ballons up, I could probably dodge them, but not while aiming my bombs....Not a chance in hell.
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...Not a chance in hell.
What about heaven? :D
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Why of course. Of course if I had devine powers, then you would all be restricted to C-47's untill you fell into my graces again.....
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,216687.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,216687.0.html)
:rofl :rofl :rofl at most of the pics
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Hahaha....flying cigar :rofl :rofl
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(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/phatzo/dull.jpg)
sorry had to do it
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hehehehehe
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(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/phatzo/dull.jpg)
sorry had to do it
dude I dont think our glorious squad leader ace pilot likes his name used for your amusement. Consider yourself banned for life :rofl
semp
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Ever consider what those balloons would do to frame rates for 50% of AH Pilots?
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Put a bullet between the frame rate's eyes?
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Ever consider what those balloons would do to frame rates for 50% of AH Pilots?
maybe ah can hire those guys that do south park, pretty sure they would have some ideas to improve the frame rate.
semp
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Like cut almost all animation and turn our game into a slide show?
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Where did you get the idea that animators working with $100,000+ equipment would have the knowledge to increase the eye-candy while reducing the hardware requirements? :huh
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Where did you get the idea that animators working with $100,000+ equipment would have the knowledge to increase the eye-candy while reducing the hardware requirements? :huh
I got the idea from the definition of sarcasm, look it up in wikipedia :D
semp
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I got the idea from the definition of sarcasm, look it up in wikipedia :D
semp
Notice the unreleased laughter lurking beneath the surface of his post..... And off to our left we see Denholm looking up sarcasm on wikipedia.
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Ever consider what those balloons would do to frame rates for 50% of AH Pilots?
Absolutely nothing...
The game currently allows something like this to be done, they would be fixed position tho.
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Ever consider what those balloons would do to frame rates for 50% of AH Pilots?
maybe ah can hire those guys that do south park, pretty sure they would have some ideas to improve the frame rate.
semp
both of these posts were added as a joke, not to be taken serously. :rofl :rofl :rofl
semp
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Absolutely nothing...
The game currently allows something like this to be done, they would be fixed position tho.
They would HAVE to be destroyable though. That means each one would have to be updated for each and every player, every time one of them takes a couple of 20mm rounds in a dogfight.
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if the ballons are made out of rubber, wont the bullet/cannon rounds bounce and kill the attacker?
semp
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Well 20mm shells are explosive, some of them anyway, so no. It would explode, and blow a hole in the ballon, and the .50's and even 303's, 7.62mm, and .30's would punch right through (they go through the metal skins on our plane, and if the rubber were thick enough to stop it, then we would have bouncy balls.
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The game doesn't work like that....
Do you think it would be any different than a hangar or ack?
Your plane doesn't know the status of every flak in the game at all times.
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The game doesn't work like that....
Do you think it would be any different than a hangar or ack?
Your plane doesn't know the status of every flak in the game at all times.
Well no, I worded that poorly. I mean every one within whatever range the update is sent out to (I guess that would be what would happen). And there wouldn't be only 5-6 barrage ballons. There would be probably like 20 all at varying alts. That would still be enough to serisouly affect players using borderline machines.
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Well 20mm shells are explosive, some of them anyway, so no. It would explode, and blow a hole in the ballon, and the .50's and even 303's, 7.62mm, and .30's would punch right through (they go through the metal skins on our plane, and if the rubber were thick enough to stop it, then we would have bouncy balls.
Uhm, it's not as easy as it sounds. Balloons (not dirigibles) are not rigid. This means they rely on the gas within the balloon along with any lines or guidewires to generate the form of the balloon. What does that mean? Quite simple, anything impacting the balloon will practically bounce off. It's basically a suspended bounce-ball.
Although suicide, when pilots of WWI attacked balloons there's a reason they used specialised ammunition.
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Uhm, it's not as easy as it sounds. Balloons (not dirigibles) are not rigid. This means they rely on the gas within the balloon along with any lines or guidewires to generate the form of the balloon. What does that mean? Quite simple, anything impacting the balloon will practically bounce off. It's basically a suspended bounce-ball.
Although suicide, when pilots of WWI attacked balloons there's a reason they used specialised ammunition.
The physics of a bullet impacting a balloon are quite simple, the bullet wins. Even regular ball ammo will take down a balloon given sufficient time. In practice unless the bullets set the balloon ablaze it was simply winched down and repaired.
HE or incendiary bullets were used to set the fabric on fire, usually meaning its complete destruction.
The primary danger to the attacker was from neighboring flak installations, not the balloon itself.
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Well no, I worded that poorly. I mean every one within whatever range the update is sent out to (I guess that would be what would happen). And there wouldn't be only 5-6 barrage ballons. There would be probably like 20 all at varying alts. That would still be enough to serisouly affect players using borderline machines.
Sorry but they would be no worse than the trees already found in the MA...
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The physics of a bullet impacting a balloon are quite simple, the bullet wins. Even regular ball ammo will take down a balloon given sufficient time. In practice unless the bullets set the balloon ablaze it was simply winched down and repaired.
HE or incendiary bullets were used to set the fabric on fire, usually meaning its complete destruction.
The primary danger to the attacker was from neighboring flak installations, not the balloon itself.
Deflection was more likely when firing on a balloon, thus why pilots out hunting them used specialized ammunition such as the HE rounds or incendiaries you mentioned. Regular ammunition would win every once in a while, but more than less, the balloon would simply deflect the bullet.
As for danger to the attacker, I never said anything about the balloon being the primary source of danger to aircraft.
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I would assume players' front ends don't have any idea about the "damage level" of nearby objects. More likely, you drop bombs on a hangar, send the host "I just did 1,000lbs of damage to this hangar," and the host returns "You killed it." I believe this is why you see everything smoking when you first enter the arena, even if it's a few seconds from coming up.
That being said, the status of the objects (up/down) would have to be relayed and the server load would be greatly increased by tracking the damage levels and serving the status. That's why destructable terrain is not allowed.
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Just use the 2D sheep sprite that seems to have taken a hiatus from the new terrain (guess they dont like the new grass), and float them over bases and towns. If they can flip a tank, they can be inflated and used as barrage balloons.
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/8/128706598338754114.jpg)
Frame rate problem solved :D
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Genius!
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Genius!
:rofl :roflLOL :rofl :rofl
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Just use the 2D sheep sprite that seems to have taken a hiatus from the new terrain (guess they dont like the new grass), and float them over bases and towns. If they can flip a tank, they can be inflated and used as barrage balloons.
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/8/128706598338754114.jpg)
Frame rate problem solved :D
can you add a blond sheep so I can better visualize this enhancement? greatly appreciated.
semp
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Hows this for a better representation?
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l273/woosle_2006/SheepBaloons.jpg)
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I always knew those sheep were out to massacre anything that flies.
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Uhm, it's not as easy as it sounds. Balloons (not dirigibles) are not rigid. This means they rely on the gas within the balloon along with any lines or guidewires to generate the form of the balloon. What does that mean? Quite simple, anything impacting the balloon will practically bounce off. It's basically a suspended bounce-ball.
Although suicide, when pilots of WWI attacked balloons there's a reason they used specialised ammunition.
I doubt they were using rubber thick enough to stop or bounce a bullet on baloons during WW2.
HE or incendiary bullets were used to set the fabric on fire, usually meaning its complete destruction.
That right, FABRIC. Bullet v.s fabric = bullet wins.
Deflection was more likely when firing on a balloon, thus why pilots out hunting them used specialized ammunition such as the HE rounds or incendiaries you mentioned. Regular ammunition would win every once in a while, but more than less, the balloon would simply deflect the bullet.
Were they armored? Armor plate doesn't float up with hot air.
I always knew those sheep were out to massacre anything that flies.
AA...OPEN FIRE!!!!!!!
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I doubt they were using rubber thick enough to stop or bounce a bullet on baloons during WW2....
Precisely why I know you're misguided.
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Even now rubber doesn't bounce back a bullet. Unless the laws of physics or the composition of rubber has GREATLY changed since 1944, then a bullet won't be stoped or bounced back by rubber. Sure ENOUGH will stop a bullet, but by that point you've got a single 8'x3' patch that can stop a bullet with the rest being 1/8 inch thick.
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The balloons were not even made of rubber....
Under no circumstances would a bullet have "bounced" or "deflected" off of a WWI or WW2 aerial ballon.
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Hows this for a better representation?
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l273/woosle_2006/SheepBaloons.jpg)
Now that's some funny *&^%.
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before you guys start arguing for the next two weeks about the probability of bullets bouncing off ballons and or killing sheep with lazer beams, ( the blond sheep is kindda hot btw). Do you guys realize that the statement about bullets bouncing off ballons was added as a joke, not to be taken serously. jumping sheep on the other hand is a great idea that could be used to distract all the dang bombatards.
semp
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before you guys start arguing for the next two weeks about the probability of bullets bouncing off ballons and or killing sheep with lazer beams, ( the blond sheep is kindda hot btw). Do you guys realize that the statement about bullets bouncing off ballons was added as a joke, not to be taken serously. jumping sheep on the other hand is a great idea that could be used to distract all the dang bombatards.
semp
umm I was just getting ready for two weeks of nonsensical rubbish about bullets bouncing off balloons
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The balloons were not even made of rubber....
Under no circumstances would a bullet have "bounced" or "deflected" off of a WWI or WW2 aerial ballon.
Thats what I've been saying.
And Crasher, don't ruin the fun.
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what if the ballon is made out of the same fiber as the uniform that elastic woman uses? I believe that a round would be easily deflected.
semp
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Dont feed the troll.....
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I remember watchin the show on tv about a guy that got killed. It seemed that a round shot at a shooting range, (and dont quote me exactly since i saw it a couple of years ago) was shoot to high missed the target, the dirt wall behind the target, went thru a wall in a building that was behind the shooting range. bullete went up when it hit the wall then of all the things hit an accousting ceiling tile, now this is where it gets weird, it skated (for lack of a better word) on the tile and it it arched down go thru another wall and hit a guy, that was seating on a chair, in the head. now this is an exception since bullets dont just change directions (up) when hitting a wood/drywall wall and specially will go thru a ceiling tile instead of bouning off of it. but it just ilustrates the point that bullets sometimes do strange things.
semp
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I remember watchin the show on tv about a guy that got killed. It seemed that a round shot at a shooting range, (and dont quote me exactly since i saw it a couple of years ago) was shoot to high missed the target, the dirt wall behind the target, went thru a wall in a building that was behind the shooting range. bullete went up when it hit the wall then of all the things hit an accousting ceiling tile, now this is where it gets weird, it skated (for lack of a better word) on the tile and it it arched down go thru another wall and hit a guy, that was seating on a chair, in the head. now this is an exception since bullets dont just change directions (up) when hitting a wood/drywall wall and specially will go thru a ceiling tile instead of bouning off of it. but it just ilustrates the point that bullets sometimes do strange things.
semp
Well yeah, when it's pretty much spent. But the point is FABRIC DON'T STOP BULLETS!!!!
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Well yeah, when it's pretty much spent. But the point is FABRIC DON'T STOP BULLETS!!!!
You better tell that to the guy in the bullet proof vest
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Well yeah, when it's pretty much spent. But the point is FABRIC DON'T STOP BULLETS!!!!
guess the point i was trying to make is that ballon may not stop a bullet but it may deflect it just like the ceiling tile did.
semp
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Guncrasher, Nemisis just happens to be constructed of the following material:
(http://candidchatter.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/brick_wall1.jpg)
Any attempt to correct or educate seems to come right back at ya.
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:lol
I was thinking the other way around....
The thought of a piece of clothe (like used in balloon construction) deflecting a bullet is ludicrous.
Strip
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Hmmm.... sounds like a job for these guys:
(http://10toes.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/mythbusters.jpg)
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:lol
I was thinking the other way around....
The thought of a piece of clothe (like used in balloon construction) deflecting a bullet is ludicrous.
Strip
Show me when I said it would repeatedly deflect the bullet. My original comment was stating that shooting down a balloon wasn't as easy as was being portrayed.
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Sheep dog balloons!
(http://www.philskies.net/images/RATS/PIHABF/10th%20PIHABF/87%20dog%20balloon%20about%20to%20go%20Feb%2010.JPG)
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Guncrasher, Nemisis just happens to be constructed of the following material:
(http://candidchatter.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/brick_wall1.jpg)
Any attempt to correct or educate seems to come right back at ya.
OK denholm, I won't come right out and say what everyone is thinking by saying you should read previous posts. Oops, already did, well whatever.
And we SHOULD have the mythbusters test if cloth coated in metalic paint (much like WW1 planes. And .30cal bullets didn't really deflect off them so I'm betting that my .50's won't deflect as well.
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:lol
I was thinking the other way around....
The thought of a piece of clothe (like used in balloon construction) deflecting a bullet is ludicrous.
Strip
silk is stronger than ceiling tile, and the ceiling tile deflected a bullet, silk is also stronger than steel (looked it up in the wikipedia). and I am willing to ask the girl in myth busters to prove it using her blouse.
just about anything can stop or deflect a bullet and it has happened, coins, buttons, cloth, newspapers, bibles, glass, u name it, more than one, probably not. besides if I can drop eggs from a buff while upside down in here, I see no reason why a ballon wont stop a round from a tiger tank. but seriously i would like to get back to the original topic of this thread, but I am still busy looking at the sheep ballons.
semp
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Silk is stronger than steel, eh? Tell me why my steel knife cuts easily through silk, then.
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Silk is stronger than steel, eh? Tell me why my steel knife cuts easily through silk, then.
make a strand of steel the same size as a strand of silk, see which one fails first.
anyway this is how you deal with a balloon
(http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/images/sopwith_camel_pc12_1_500.jpg)
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So, who will start the wish for a WWI theater? :D
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make a strand of steel same thickness as silk, no comparison, silk is stronger, look it up in wikipedia its there :), btw it was a trick question. kinnda like what weights more a pound of gold or a pond of cotton. answer is a pound of cotton. but dont post any replies to it. its another trick question. but the idea of a ww1 aren to shoot ballons would be good :x :x :x :x
semp
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So, who will start the wish for a WWI theater? :D
No thanks denholm, I like my posting privelages....