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Title: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: TheZohan on September 23, 2009, 09:59:19 PM
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2353214,00.asp
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: Denholm on September 23, 2009, 10:26:00 PM
The only exciting thing about this... Manufacturers seem to be making a little room for personal upgrades.
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: OOZ662 on September 23, 2009, 10:27:07 PM
I was surprised to see that one of my classmates built a gaming laptop for his senior project. I didn't realize all the components were around for that yet.

(Still pretty lame to build a computer for a senior project, I think, but...)
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: Kazaa on September 24, 2009, 05:28:07 AM
Laptop and gaming shouldn't be used in the same sentance.
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: skribetm on September 24, 2009, 05:51:17 AM
Laptop and gaming shouldn't be used in the same sentance.

i respectfully disagree.

(http://www.kinc.se/W90/w90.jpg)

(http://www.theinquirer.net/img/11531/w90.jpg?1241332203)

(http://www.kinc.se/W90/20k2.png)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=218157 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=218157)

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1051085/asus-intros-mobility-radeon-hd-4870-x2 (http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1051085/asus-intros-mobility-radeon-hd-4870-x2)


Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: OOZ662 on September 24, 2009, 06:23:02 AM
Laptop and gaming shouldn't be used in the same sentance.

Yeah, laptops are starting to be competitive for a price...I still prefer a desktop, myself. They'll always be faster since they don't need to bother with "mobile technology."
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: Ghosth on September 24, 2009, 06:24:57 AM
Not to mention running cooler.
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: kilz on September 24, 2009, 07:50:38 AM
I was surprised to see that one of my classmates built a gaming laptop for his senior project. I didn't realize all the components were around for that yet.

(Still pretty lame to build a computer for a senior project, I think, but...)

where do you buy the shell for the laptop i have never been able to find an empty shell
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 24, 2009, 08:14:37 AM
i respectfully disagree.

(http://www.kinc.se/W90/w90.jpg)

(http://www.theinquirer.net/img/11531/w90.jpg?1241332203)

(http://www.kinc.se/W90/20k2.png)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=218157 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=218157)

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1051085/asus-intros-mobility-radeon-hd-4870-x2 (http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1051085/asus-intros-mobility-radeon-hd-4870-x2)




How many equivalent speed desktops could you buy with the price of that? Two? More?  ;)
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: OOZ662 on September 24, 2009, 08:17:32 AM
where do you buy the shell for the laptop i have never been able to find an empty shell

I have no idea. Heck, it may have been a lie. He always was good at that.
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 24, 2009, 08:43:40 AM
I have no idea. Heck, it may have been a lie. He always was good at that.

While not empty shell, Asus among some others has provided 'barebone' laptops that contain a casing, motherboard and such but which you have to compile yourself using off the shelf components. CPU, memory etc. Some laptop computers even support add-on graphics cards afaik - even though I've never seen one for sale anywhere. And since they're so rare they must cost. A lot.
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: Ghastly on September 24, 2009, 09:08:46 AM
FWIW, IMO, YMMV, and of course there are exceptions etc. - but another "truism" is that often even a laptop that's equivalent in every way to an "identical" desktop is inferior for gaming, because the BIOS is generally optimized for power conservation. This often means odd slow downs and other quirks that don't happen in the "exactly matching" desktop system.

Of course, I'd like to believe that a gaming oriented laptop is different, but...

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Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 24, 2009, 09:17:59 AM
http://laptoping.com/category/barebone-laptops/
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: TilDeath on September 24, 2009, 09:54:38 AM
where do you buy the shell for the laptop i have never been able to find an empty shell
These "shells" are actually called "White Books".  There are many manufactures that offer the Whitebook base.  ASUS makes an excellent dedicated to gaming laptop but this is an expensive rig.  If you look at the one posted by skribetm this looks like one to me.  You can see its advantage with the 3dMark score.  His score rivals most desktop systems.  He does have it overclocked pretty well.  My only concern would be cooling at those clock speed.  But very impressive Skibetm  :salute
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: TheZohan on September 24, 2009, 11:50:06 AM
thats a i7 laptop, i7 vs Core 2 Quad? it only has 4650 mobile but i am sure they can get a mobil 4800 series with a i7 laptop out soon.
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: kilz on September 24, 2009, 03:57:04 PM
These "shells" are actually called "White Books".  There are many manufactures that offer the Whitebook base.  ASUS makes an excellent dedicated to gaming laptop but this is an expensive rig.  If you look at the one posted by skribetm this looks like one to me.  You can see its advantage with the 3dMark score.  His score rivals most desktop systems.  He does have it overclocked pretty well.  My only concern would be cooling at those clock speed.  But very impressive Skibetm  :salute

thank you never knew they where called white books
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: Plazus on September 24, 2009, 04:52:58 PM
Laptops are overrated.
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: kilz on September 24, 2009, 05:15:54 PM
how is this graphics card for a laptop? 1600x1200 Hi-Res Nvidia Gforce FX Go 5600 128MB 
Title: Re: new gaming laptops! the ultimate in laptops
Post by: skribetm on September 24, 2009, 06:41:38 PM
These "shells" are actually called "White Books".  There are many manufactures that offer the Whitebook base.  ASUS makes an excellent dedicated to gaming laptop but this is an expensive rig.  If you look at the one posted by skribetm this looks like one to me.  You can see its advantage with the 3dMark score.  His score rivals most desktop systems.  He does have it overclocked pretty well.  My only concern would be cooling at those clock speed.  But very impressive Skibetm  :salute

i apologize sir but i DO NOT own one, lolz! it's too expensive and unless one prioritizes some mobility out of their systems i wouldn't advise getting one. the more recent models that come with a nehalem chip has underpowered ati radeon mobility discrete graphics cards(4650, 4350..etc.) and wont be as good as this C2Quad based system from ASUS(when benching it, this has the 4870X2!) however, this laptop i posted prolly wont have power on batteries for even 30 minutes when gaming. i would imagine the power drain of the mobile 4870X2 to still be around 200W since its still the same 55nm process gpu.

true, desktops will still be better for gamers.  :aok <S!>