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Title: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: 4504 on September 26, 2009, 07:42:54 PM
hello

i really like flying the mossie (mosquito) altho i get shot down about 97% of the time.  i am considering changing my tactics and do a little bombing.  unfortunately, i am unable to find anywhere references to opening the bomb bay, dropping bombs, etc. i checked the keyboard functions and there is nothing there about this.  does anybody have a (keyboard) reference for these controls in the mossie?  i once was able to open the bomb bay doors but had stumbled upon them, still don't what controls drop the bomb.  thanks, mike
Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: StokesAk on September 26, 2009, 07:45:57 PM
Press O to open your doors, and press Backspace until they show up in your selected weapons, then press B to drop them.
Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: 4504 on September 26, 2009, 07:52:36 PM
thank you!
Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: 4504 on September 26, 2009, 08:24:53 PM
funny, all that works but when i release the bombs they do not explode.  i am at least 1-2,000 feet above the target area when i release them.  do they need to be armed, or am i missing something?  thanks, mike
Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: TwinEng on September 26, 2009, 08:28:59 PM
Press O to open your doors, and press Backspace until they show up in your selected weapons, then press B to drop them.
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Alternatively, just press the Secondary Fire button on your joystick, instead of pressing B.

It is generally easier to do when dive bombing.



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Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: TwinEng on September 26, 2009, 08:29:48 PM
Have you not downloaded the Aces High II Quick Reference sheet, and printed it out for reference???

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Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: 4504 on September 26, 2009, 08:35:49 PM
nope, never saw it, will look for it now and take a look....thanks, mike
Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: 4504 on September 26, 2009, 08:55:49 PM
funny, i can't find any reference to the quick reference guide, except on the internet it refers to the keyboard mapping preferences.  i've already done that and there is nothing about the bombing controls i was asking about. can anybody tell me how to get to it, or answer why my bombs won't explode?  thanks, mike
Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: trotter on September 27, 2009, 03:42:35 AM
Bombs need to travel a certain distance in the air before they become armed. This distance can be achieved vertically or horizontally, or any combination of the two.

Are you sure your bombs are dropping and not exploding? If so, you need more altitude before you drop. Or, if you are doing a "loft" bomb approach, you need to increase your drop angle and/or distance from target at drop.

There is the possibility that your bombs are indeed dropping, are indeed arming, and you are just not noticing their impact. The AH default explosion noise is entirely underwhelming, and the graphics effects are something you might find in a 1998 copy of European Air War. If you are used to newer games, these explosions will probably not register with you. Also, if you do not destroy an object, you will not get a "XXXX Destroyed" message, and this may lead you to think you've entirely missed your target, when in fact you've damaged it severely but not entirely destroyed it.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: BrownBaron on September 27, 2009, 04:24:42 AM
hello

i really like flying the mossie (mosquito) altho i get shot down about 97% of the time.  i am considering changing my tactics and do a little bombing.  unfortunately, i am unable to find anywhere references to opening the bomb bay, dropping bombs, etc. i checked the keyboard functions and there is nothing there about this.  does anybody have a (keyboard) reference for these controls in the mossie?  i once was able to open the bomb bay doors but had stumbled upon them, still don't what controls drop the bomb.  thanks, mike

ahhhhhhh, i remember my first flight in AH......flew a 51 into a hill on ndiles.....damn....those were the days.

but anyways....hm....1k is enuf for the bombs to arm, hit F3, then hold 0 and 3 at da same time  and wait till you see a cheap grey plume and a small(ish) brown crater appear, ill post a film if u want.......
Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: EskimoJoe on September 27, 2009, 04:50:31 AM
ahhhhhhh, i remember my first flight in AH......flew a 51 into a hill on ndiles.....damn....those were the days.

but anyways....hm....1k is enuf for the bombs to arm, hit F3, then hold 0 and 3 at da same time  and wait till you see a cheap grey plume and a small(ish) brown crater appear, ill post a film if u want.......
As a virtual pilot flying this game for a handful of years...

Your post makes absolutely no sense.

Bombs need to travel a certain distance in the air before they become armed. This distance can be achieved vertically or horizontally, or any combination of the two.

Are you sure your bombs are dropping and not exploding? If so, you need more altitude before you drop. Or, if you are doing a "loft" bomb approach, you need to increase your drop angle and/or distance from target at drop.

There is the possibility that your bombs are indeed dropping, are indeed arming, and you are just not noticing their impact. The AH default explosion noise is entirely underwhelming, and the graphics effects are something you might find in a 1998 copy of European Air War. If you are used to newer games, these explosions will probably not register with you. Also, if you do not destroy an object, you will not get a "XXXX Destroyed" message, and this may lead you to think you've entirely missed your target, when in fact you've damaged it severely but not entirely destroyed it.

Hope this helps.

This is true. One way to find out if your bombs have impacted with success if you're dropping over plain ground and not a city or strat(egic target) is to reverse 180 degrees in an immelman and scan the ground ahead of you for a crater. Crater sizes depend on the size of the bomb, rockets and 100lbrs being smallest, while 1k-2k bombs have the largest for most aircraft.
Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: 4504 on September 27, 2009, 08:23:01 AM
thanks guys.  i was under the impression (mistakenly?) that if you dropped a bomb on an ememy base there would be a fire, whether on the runway, building or grass.  in other words, if you had enough altitude and dropped the bomb high enough for it to arm, there would be a fire or at least a crater.  i have experimented as you suggested out in the fields by the base, dropped bombs (500 lb) at least 1-2,000 above the ground, circuled around and could see no crater at all.  i will keep trying......mike
Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: Helm on September 27, 2009, 08:57:26 AM
My suggestion is to practice offline and check your methods. It's much easier and faster to do this off line.  You can drop and go F3 view and see if they hit or miss.  You can not use F3 view in on line w/ the Mossie on line.

  You can also pull straight up and look out the back window and see if bomb exploded.

   Offline is a great place to practice.  You can bail out and get a new plane in seconds and try again.  I used to have trouble dropping torpedoes.  I used the offline arena to test my drops.  If I did not see a torpedo wake ....I muffed the drop.  I would auger ...and be right back at it in a 2 min.  I could practice  20 drops in 30 min easily.

  Also make sure to check your bomb counter and make sure the bomb actually dropped.

If your drop was successful.  You will get a damaged target message....or you will see a crater .....look around for the crater it maybe further away from the target then you expect.  Only certain things in the game "burn" ...you would also get a message that you hit it ...before you would see it burn.


Helm ...out
Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: kvuo75 on September 27, 2009, 11:05:04 AM
funny, i can't find any reference to the quick reference guide, except on the internet it refers to the keyboard mapping preferences.  i've already done that and there is nothing about the bombing controls i was asking about. can anybody tell me how to get to it, or answer why my bombs won't explode?  thanks, mike

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/quickref/quickref.pdf


Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: BrownBaron on September 27, 2009, 03:35:09 PM
As a virtual pilot flying this game for a handful of years...

Your post makes absolutely no sense.


I was telling him to change the view to third person, change the angle with the numpad, and wait till he saw a crater appear.

As for the first flight thing, i was just reminiscing.

Care to elaborate what about my post didnt make sense to you?
Title: Re: bombing controls for the mossie
Post by: EskimoJoe on September 27, 2009, 04:38:55 PM
I was telling him to change the view to third person, change the angle with the numpad, and wait till he saw a crater appear.

As for the first flight thing, i was just reminiscing.

Care to elaborate what about my post didnt make sense to you?
Not here.

4504, if you still can't quite get it, head to the TA[training arena] and ask for some help. Should be a handful of friendly and helpful guys in there  :)

Oh, and for future reference, a forum like this belongs in the Help and Training Forum  ;)