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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Nemisis on September 29, 2009, 11:02:37 PM
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I was looking over the vehicles, and it seems like we need some more earlywar tanks.
I propose the Panzer III, and M3 stuart light tank.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_III)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_Stuart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_Stuart)
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Phooey on the Pz-III we need the :
BT-7 & BT-7a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_tank
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M-13/40 or M-14/41 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_M13/40
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:aok +4 (one for each tank). We do need more early tank options. Dont forget this one though:
M3 Lee
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Aberdean_proving_grounds_023.JPG/350px-Aberdean_proving_grounds_023.JPG)
Weight - 23.9 tons
Length - 6.12/5.64 m
Width - 2.72 m
Height - 3.12 m
Armor - 51 mm
Primary armament - 1 × 75mm Gun M2/M3 in hull 46 rounds / 1 × 37mm Gun M5/M6 in turret 178 rounds
Secondary armament - 2-3–4 × .30-06 Browning M1919A4 machine guns 9,200 rounds
Engine - Wright (Continental) R975 EC2 400/340 hp (298/254 kW)
Transmission - Synchromesh, 5 speeds forward, 1 reverse
Speed - 40 km/h (road) 26 km/h (off-road)
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I'm all for it Nemisis. Some early war tanks would defiantly freshen thing up a bit. And while were on the subject how bout some Japanese Tanks?
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:aok +4 (one for each tank). We do need more early tank options. Dont forget this one though:
M3 Lee
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Aberdean_proving_grounds_023.JPG/350px-Aberdean_proving_grounds_023.JPG)
Weight - 23.9 tons
Length - 6.12/5.64 m
Width - 2.72 m
Height - 3.12 m
Armor - 51 mm
Primary armament - 1 × 75mm Gun M2/M3 in hull 46 rounds / 1 × 37mm Gun M5/M6 in turret 178 rounds
Secondary armament - 2-3–4 × .30-06 Browning M1919A4 machine guns 9,200 rounds
Engine - Wright (Continental) R975 EC2 400/340 hp (298/254 kW)
Transmission - Synchromesh, 5 speeds forward, 1 reverse
Speed - 40 km/h (road) 26 km/h (off-road)
How the HELL did I forget that one? I'm not even joking. And wasn't it the M3 grant?
And I agree Raptor, we do need some jap tanks, and maybe their troop barge, and halftrack to go along with it?
Like the Type 1 Ho-Ha halftrack.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_1_Ho-Ha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_1_Ho-Ha)
No ideas for tanks or ampibous vehicle other than the hadatsu barges. If you see a good one post it here. I'll post the wiki page...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_tanks_and_armoured_vehicles_of_the_WWII_period (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_tanks_and_armoured_vehicles_of_the_WWII_period)
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More EW tanks, Hell yes!!! Being as the ONE we have, was beyond UBER, and only appeared at the LAST portion of the EW period.. Here are a few possibilities
Pnzr IVe
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/PnzrIVEAfrica.jpg)
Pnzr Ib
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/Pnzr1b.jpg)
Pnzr IIIg couldn't find a good pic of a 37mm version..
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/Panzr3G.jpg)
Matilda MK2
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/MatildaMk2.jpg)
Marder II 75mm Pak40, MANY were built with captured russian 76.2mm DP guns...
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/MarderII.jpg)
Crusader MK1
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/CrusaderMkI.jpg)
Char B1bis Still need a french tank..
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/CharB1bis.jpg)
Soviet BZ10 Same turret as BT w 45mm gun
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/BZ10.jpg)
Italian 90mm autocanone 90mm AA/AT gun
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/AutoCanone90mmItalyx800.jpg)
Hotchkiss H35
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/HotchkissH35.jpg)
M3 75mm GMC
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/M375mmATG.jpg)
Italian M 13/40
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/M1340.jpg)
Brit Honey M3a1
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/HoneyM3a1.jpg)
PnzrJgrI 47mm Brno
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/PnzrJgr1.jpg)
Pz38t One of the best tanks in EW period
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/pz38t.jpg)
Zundapp K750 sidehack
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/SpoilsOfWar41x800.jpg)
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Yes to all but the motercycle maybe the kettinkrad for MW or LW. And we already have the panzer IV.
So our list is:
PanzerIII
M3 Stuart
PanzerI
Matilda mk2
CrusaderI
MarderII
Char 1B
Italian 90mm autocane (we need a portal high caliber AA gun)
M3 75mm GMC
M13/40
M13/41
Pz38t
Any objections before we start weeding out the ones we want?
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Oh, and I'd be a little supprised if we got it but, the M12 155mm "Long tom" gun carrier as a midwar GV.
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"Tanks" carrying only MGs would be rather useless in a tank-on-tank situation, as they were meant to engage infantry. I believe even early war tanks were built to take small arms fire, which would be worsened by the lack of metal fatigue in AH's armor modeling.
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The Panzer I only has MG's? Nevermind, its off the list.
But any objections to the rest?
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I suppose the rest could be considered "cannons..." Been spending too much time around a Tiger. :D
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The Panzer I only has MG's? Nevermind, its off the list.
But any objections to the rest?
maybe add a hotchkiss?
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I suppose the rest could be considered "cannons..." Been spending too much time around a Tiger. :D
hehehehe. Remember, this is early war set. A 37mm cannon will be adequat against its contemporaries.
And while I'm on the subject, can we get the T34 changed to MW? I know it would technically qualify for EW, but it came in at the end as RC pointed out, AND were filling out the set here so I'll add the BT-7/7a to the list
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hehehehe. Remember, this is early war set. A 37mm cannon will be adequat against its contemporaries.
And while I'm on the subject, can we get the T34 changed to MW? I know it would technically qualify for EW, but it came in at the end as RC pointed out, AND were filling out the set here so I'll add the BT-7/7a to the list
maybe a m22 locust?
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List of Japanese Tanks. http://www.wwiivehicles.com/ (http://www.wwiivehicles.com/)
Type 97 Chi-Ha Medium Tank:
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/japan/tanks-medium/type-97-chi-ha/type-97-chi-ha-10.png)
Type 95 Ha-Go light tank
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/japan/tanks-light/type-95/type-95-ha-go-03.png)
Type 93 Light Tank
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/japan/tanks-light/type-93/type-93-light-tank-01.jpg)
Type 94 Te-Ke
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/japan/tankettes/type-94/type-94-te-ke-tankette-01.jpg)
Type 92 tankette
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/japan/tankettes/type-92/type-92-tankette-01.jpg)
Type 97 Te-Ke
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/japan/tankettes/type-97/type-97-te-ke-01.png)
Japan's Type 89 Medium
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/japan/tanks-medium/type-94/type-94-medium-side.png)
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The list stands at:
Tanks
Panzer III
M3 stuart
Matilda Mk2
Crusader Mk1
Char 1B
M13/40
M13/41
Pz38t
Type 97 Chi-ha
type95 Ha-go
Bt-7
Bt-7a
Misc./self propeled
MarderII
Italian 90mm autocane
M3 75mm GMC
M12 "long tom" 155mm
Type 1 Ho-Ha
DUWK
Any objections or questions?
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The list stands at:
Tanks
Panzer III
M3 stuart
Matilda Mk2
Crusader Mk1
Char 1B
M13/40
M13/41
Pz38t
Type 97 Chi-ha
type95 Ha-go
Bt-7
Bt-7a
Misc./self propeled
MarderII
Italian 90mm autocane
M3 75mm GMC
M12 "long tom" 155mm
Type 1 Ho-Ha
DUWK
Any objections or questions?
add a t28 superheavy tank and say 5000 were produced by 1944 and the production began 1938 in the usa
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:T-28-1.jpg)
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I believe the EW time period ends on Dec 7 1941, when the US and Japan entered the war...
Love the Nipponese tanks, but they'd be MW units.... Oh, wait a sec, they were fighting in China... NVM!!!
Does the war in China apply to WWII? I suppose it does... What Tanks did they use in china?
RC
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I believe the EW time period ends on Dec 7 1941, when the US and Japan entered the war...
Love the Nipponese tanks, but they'd be MW units.... Oh, wait a sec, they were fighting in China... NVM!!!
Does the war in China apply to WWII? I suppose it does... What Tanks did they use in china?
RC
chatting with yourself? and the war in china does not because its in china and chinas china so ya. doesnt count
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Wasn't china involved in WWII? It was attacked by Japan so I guess so. There were 2 T28's built and it was built during WW2 around 1943 I'd guess (couldn't find a time) so no.
And if we only get 5-6 GV's then I'd say
PanzerIII
M3 stuart
M13/40
Type 97 chi-ha
Bt-7 or 7a
Italian 90mm autocane
Feel free to make suggestions. On friday I'll ask Scuzzy to turn this into a poll so we can vote on our favorite 5 and then HTC gets to pick.
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Wasn't china involved in WWII? It was attacked by Japan so I guess so. There were 2 T28's built and it was built during WW2 around 1943 I'd guess (couldn't find a time) so no.
And if we only get 5-6 GV's then I'd say
PanzerIII
M3 stuart
M13/40
Type 97 chi-ha
Bt-7 or 7a
Italian 90mm autocane
Feel free to make suggestions. On friday I'll ask Scuzzy to turn this into a poll so we can vote on our favorite 5 and then HTC gets to pick.
i was making fun of the wikipedia
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The list stands at:
Tanks
Panzer III
M3 stuart
Matilda Mk2
Crusader Mk1
Char 1B
M13/40
M13/41
Pz38t
Type 97 Chi-ha
type95 Ha-go
Bt-7
Bt-7a
Misc./self propeled
MarderII
Italian 90mm autocane
M3 75mm GMC
M12 "long tom" 155mm
Type 1 Ho-Ha
DUWK
Any objections or questions?
You forgot it again :D M3 Lee (AKA M3 Grant if it is being used by the British)
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Tanks
Panzer III
M3 stuart
M3 Lee
Matilda Mk2
Crusader Mk1
Char 1B
M13/40
M13/41
Pz38t
Type 97 Chi-ha
type95 Ha-go
Bt-7
Bt-7a
Misc./self propeled
MarderII
Italian 90mm autocane
M3 75mm GMC
M12 "long tom" 155mm
Type 1 Ho-Ha
DUWK
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And while I'm on the subject, can we get the T34 changed to MW? I know it would technically qualify for EW, but it came in at the end as RC pointed out, AND were filling out the set here so I'll add the BT-7/7a to the list
No need to move the T-34/76 out of EW if there was a smattering of early war tanks added to the set. The logical thing to do would be to apply a light perk to it instead.
maybe a m22 locust?
Although similar in many ways to early-war tanks, the Locust was designed to be dropped with airborne troops in special gliders. IIRC, their only combat use was during Operation Varsity in 1945, making it a late war tank.
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hmmm, well maby not a light perking as there are so many people who are expert and can EASILY reach a small perk price. After my first tank sortie I could buy the tiger....
Can we have the T34/76 perked around 15?
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We're adding the Diahatsu landing craft, and the Type 2
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/japan/japan-amphibvehicles.html (http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/japan/japan-amphibvehicles.html)
So really the EW tanks are
Panzer III
M3 stuart
M3 Lee
Matilda MkII
Crusader MkI
Char 1B
M13/40
Pz38t
Type 95 Ha-go
Type 97 Chi-ha
BT-7
BT-7a
Some others we want are
MarderII
Italian 90mm autocane
M3 75mm GMC
M12 155mm "Long Tom" self propeled artillery piece
Type 1 Ho-ha
DUWK
Diahatsu landing craft
Type 2 amphibious tank.
The ones we really need are
PanzerIII
M3 stuart
Crusader MkI
Char 1B
M13/40
Pz38t
Type 95 Ha-go
BT-7 or BT-7a
Italian 90mm autocane
M3 75mm GMC
Type 1 Ho-ha
Diahatsu landing craft
If I see no objections then this will be the official list....
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I have a question... Is there any special Email adress for ideas? Or is it just the standard Email?
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They read these boards. No reason to email them. Can guarantee they've been through this thread at least once.
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So really the EW tanks are
Panzer III If you mean the j1 model
M3 stuart
M3 Lee
Matilda MkII good gosh NO; rather have the Valentine
Crusader MkI as much as I want a Crusader in the game, I'd rather see the mkIII in MW than the mkI in EW
Char 1B eh, i guess the French deserve something
M13/40 :rock
Pz38t rather have this than the Pz IIIe
Type 95 Ha-go better the Type 97
Type 97 Chi-ha
BT-7 If we get the M3 Stuart, don't need this
BT-7a :rock
Some others we want are
MarderII turetless, open top/back TD; no thank-you
Italian 90mm autocane big as a M8, soft as a jeep, needs to be stopped to fire; uggh (& I LOVE the Italians BTW)
M3 75mm GMC don't need it if we get the BT-7a
M12 155mm "Long Tom" self propeled artillery piece Late War toy
Type 1 Ho-ha
DUWK
Diahatsu landing craft
Type 2 amphibious tank. MW toy, but totally :rock
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Early war without 7TP?
(http://www.achtungpanzer.com/pol/images/7tp.jpg)
Weight: 9900kg
Crew: 3 men
Engine: Sauer VBLDb Diesel / 6-cylinder / 110hp
Speed: 32-37km/h
Range: Road: 150km
Cross-Country: 130km
Lenght: 4.75m
Width: 2.40m
Height: 2.27m
Armament: 1 x 37mm Bofors wz.36 L/45 anti-tank gun
1 x 7.92mm Browning machine gun wz.33
Ammunition: 37mm - 80 rounds
7.92mm - 3960 rounds
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We're adding the Diahatsu landing craft, and the Type 2
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/japan/japan-amphibvehicles.html (http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/japan/japan-amphibvehicles.html)
So really the EW tanks are
Panzer III
M3 stuart
M3 Lee
Matilda MkII
Crusader MkI
Char 1B
M13/40
Pz38t
Type 95 Ha-go
Type 97 Chi-ha
BT-7
BT-7a
Some others we want are
MarderII
Italian 90mm autocane
M3 75mm GMC
M12 155mm "Long Tom" self propeled artillery piece
Type 1 Ho-ha
DUWK
Diahatsu landing craft
Type 2 amphibious tank.
The ones we really need are
PanzerIII
M3 stuart
Crusader MkI
Char 1B
M13/40
Pz38t
Type 95 Ha-go
BT-7 or BT-7a
Italian 90mm autocane
M3 75mm GMC
Type 1 Ho-ha
Diahatsu landing craft
If I see no objections then this will be the official list....
maybe a hotchkiss h-39? its french!
Hull Front (Upper) : 40mm @ 60° & Round
Hull Front (Lower) : 29mm - 34mm @ 60°
Hull Sides (Upper) : 40mm @ 75°
Hull Sides (Lower) : 40mm @ 90°
Hull Rear : 34mm @ 58° & 22mm @ 60°
Hull Top : 22mm @ 0° & 12°
Hull Bottom : 12mm @ 0°
Turret Front : 40mm @ 85° & 62°
Turret Mantlet : 25mm @ Round
Turret Sides : 40mm @ 62°
Turret Rear : 40mm @ 60°
Turret Top : 25mm @ 0°
can pierce 37mm armor at 30 degrees at 100m and 28mm at 500m 20mm at 1000m 14mm at 1500 for rha plate 27mm at 100 21mm at 500 16mm at 1000 11mm at 1500 for fha plate but thats a apc round its bound to be more piercing tarrif doesnt have the data for ap
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Krimm, I'm leaving it up to HTC or you guys to pick a modle for the PnzrIII. I'll add a valentine to the list, but it replaces nothing, and once we vote, its final, and that is what were asking for, I'll add Crusader MkIII as MW tank in addition to MkI as it won't be too hard to change the MkI to a MkIII as you already have the body, and the turret done unless the totaly changed it. MarderII is staying, we need something, and in EW it won't be totaly mauled by other tanks. M3 75mm is there kinda to balance things out, the Italian 90mm: we need some puffy ack on land, and IT PORTABLE!!!! You can set up on a ridge, and bang (If your a one shot kill guy) no AC can touch you untill out of ammo. As for the long tom and type 2, I probably should have stated this, but I thought it was pretty well understood, we kinda changed this into an "EW tank set, plus some others we want" thread. Nub, I guess I'll add the Hotchkiss.
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Panzer III
M3 stuart
M3 Lee
Matilda MkII
Crusader MkI
Char 1B
M13/40
Pz38t
Type 95 Ha-go
Type 97 Chi-ha
BT-7
BT-7a
Hotchkiss H-39.
Type 97
Valentine Mk?
Some others we want are
MarderII
Italian 90mm autocane
M3 75mm GMC
M12 155mm "Long Tom" self propeled artillery piece
Type 1 Ho-ha
DUWK
Diahatsu landing craft
Type 2 amphibious tank.
The ones we really need are
PanzerIII
M3 stuart
Crusader MkI
Char 1B
M13/40
Pz38t
Type 95 Ha-go
BT-7 or BT-7a
Italian 90mm autocane
M3 75mm GMC
Type 1 Ho-ha
Diahatsu landing craft
You have untill 8 PM on Monday to make objections, suggestions and changes, and modle types.
And I need and offical name and designation for the Italian 90mm truck if you will.
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You're forgetting something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How about.....oh I don't know....KV-1. Who says all early MUST be a light tank? :lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KV-1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KV-1)
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If it came in late in EW, then I'm not gona ask for it, you can if you want, but this, well was, a thread for EW ligh, medium, and heavy tanks, well by med EW standards. Now its an " EW ligh, medium, and heavy tanks plus some others we want" thread.
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I've decided KV-1 is in. It came in early enough so I'm adding it.
PanzerIII J1
M3 Lee
M3 Stuart
Matilda MkII
Crusader MkI
Char 1B
M13/40
Pz38t
Type 95 Ha-go
Type 97 Chi-ha
BT-7
BT-7a
Hotchkiss H-39.
Type 97
Valentine Mk?
Kv-1
Some others we want are
MarderII
Italian 90mm autocane
M3 75mm GMC
M12 155mm "Long Tom" self propeled artillery piece
Type 1 Ho-ha
DUWK
Diahatsu landing craft
Type 2 amphibious tank.
Crusader MkIII
What we really need is
PanzerIII J1
M3 Stuart
Crusader MkI
Char 1B
M13/40
Pz38t
type 97 Chi-ha
Bt-7 or Bt-7a
Italian 90mm autocane
M3 75mm GMC
Type 1 Ho-ha
Diahatsu landing craft
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Good luck geting all those...remember it's called aces high for a reason.
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Good luck geting all those...remember it's called aces high for a reason.
Were not asking for all of those. On tuesday were gona start voting for the ones we want. I might start a new thread to get a fresh start, and keep out those suggestions that will pop up even though the list is finalized.
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Good luck geting all those...remember it's called aces high for a reason.
Well, I'd buy your argument if we didn't have LANCASTUKS in the game; heck I'd even go halfsies with someone if we didn't have planes getting shot down from the main gun on tanks. This is called the "Wishlist", not the "flame-em-because-you-have-a-differnet-idea-of-what-might-make-the-game-more-fun-list".
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2 days to decide on modles and add or remove GV's from the list before I choose.
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I suggest these models for the tanks:
PanzerIIIJ1
BT-7 model 1937
Matilda MkII
Hotchkiss H39
M3A3 Stuart
M3A1 lee II
M13/41
Type 97 Chi-ha
KV-1 model 1941 (KV-1B)
Those are the tank models I've suggested. Feel free to make suggestions.
And these for other non tank/ MW, LW GV's
MarderII
M3 75mm GMC
Diahatsu landing craft
Type 1 Ho-ha
Italian da90/53
M12 155mm GMC
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I would like to see a French tank added.
I would really like to blow up a French tank. :D
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So, when are you starting on these? Will you have them done in two weeks?
I suggest these models for the tanks:
PanzerIIIJ1
BT-7 model 1937
Matilda MkII
Hotchkiss H39
M3A3 Stuart
M3A1 lee II
M13/41
Type 97 Chi-ha
KV-1 model 1941 (KV-1B)
Those are the tank models I've suggested. Feel free to make suggestions.
And these for other non tank/ MW, LW GV's
MarderII
M3 75mm GMC
Diahatsu landing craft
Type 1 Ho-ha
Italian da90/53
M12 155mm GMC
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So, when are you starting on these? Will you have them done in two weeks?
Oh god forbid you read the other posts......... WE ARE VOTING ON THEM IN A SEPERATE POST. I THINK YOU EVEN POSTED THERE... TOP 5 WILL BE ASKED FOR AT THE END OF THE SECOND POST....
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So when are we getting the b 29? :D
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Depends on when hitech is done with his turn. Its like a lion pride: we all have to wait till HT has had his fill before we get to eat...er play.
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Depends on when hitech is done with his turn. Its like a lion pride: we all have to wait till HT has had his fill before we get to eat...er play.
(http://gamesnet.vo.llnwd.net/o1/gamestar/objects/266301_main.jpg)
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Didn't you know HT has the B-29 modled and in his own personal off line version?
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Since HTC is his company it all sounds fair to me. Once you win that power ball lotto you can buy him out and do as you please LOL.
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Why does everyone act as if putting up a list means your asking for all of it, even when it says you will vote on the 5 to ask for?
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Until HT puts up the list, no other list matters.
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I beg to differ. It might not matter directly to HTC, but it matters to those asking for additions from HTC. I stated in no way shape or form that this list was directly aimed at HTC. If I had, then you would. You could say that in my thread where we're voting, but not here if you wish it to remain true. What about the O club? Are you saying nothing in there matters at all untill HT puts it up? By your logic, 99.99999999% of the topics in any board, matter not at all.
hitech IS the creator, and the most important person here, but unless he has a shade account or plays as hitech, we are the only ones besides those that report directly to hitech that has an idea what online play is like, and what it needs. Unless he plays, aside from input from others, all he can accurately see the game from is a buissnes standpoint.
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Well since it is a wish. I would vote for the Panzer III 50mm H.V. long barreled gun for EW. The Stuart would be cool but not much of an improvement over the M-8 we now have.
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Well since it is a wish. I would vote for the Panzer III 50mm H.V. long barreled gun for EW.
It is called a PzKpfw IIIj1 (Sd.Kfz.141/1 for you really geek-types) FYI.
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KV-1
IS2
M3 Priest
King Tiger
Cromwell
Churchill
= GV's we have to get.
EW Tanks
Panzer III
Crusaders I and II
Matilda I
Panzer II
Puma 390 Armoured Car
Marder III
M4 Sherman
If I were to prioritize I would say the Crusader's would be the way to go. And the GVs at the top of the list would also get a mention.
But for EW, Panzer III's and Crusaders with the M4 Sherman. We already have the Sherman FF and the normal Sherman would be a better bet.
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plawranc, you get to pick ONE from both lists on the previous page.....