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Title: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: NOT on September 30, 2009, 08:49:58 PM
been having some problems with my fighterstick. it will lose calibration at random times. currently using pci-usb card, have used a powered hub, and onboard usb with same results.

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Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Delirium on September 30, 2009, 11:34:55 PM
Make sure the computer isn't turning off the USB ports to save power.

If that isn't it, it could be the pot. I haven't seen the new CH pots go bad like that, generally they tend to float instead. The older gameport Fightersticks were really bad for that type of loss of calibration.

Sorry I can't be of more help to you.
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Chalenge on October 01, 2009, 01:04:26 AM
I got an addin card from Best Buy that was total junk for joysticks and my CH was acting like yours is so I moved the joysticks to the motherboard ports and used the card for my printers and IR Blaster etc and have not had a problem since. I have replaced the card now but the joysticks are still on the MB.
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Bruv119 on October 01, 2009, 01:10:36 AM
make sure the rotary dials on the base of the stick for elevator and aileron  are BOTH centered.

Sometimes people get a little too frisky with the duster and move them by accident.
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Chalenge on October 01, 2009, 01:12:05 AM
Good point Bruv I forgot about that one!  :aok
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Delirium on October 01, 2009, 02:45:55 AM
it will lose calibration at random times.

make sure the rotary dials on the base of the stick for elevator and aileron  are BOTH centered.

If they weren't centered, it would cause a constant issue, rather than a random event.
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Chalenge on October 01, 2009, 03:48:57 AM
That might be a point but I think I have seen sticks behave that way with the trims off center too. Calibrating in the game gets them working at first but then they wont hold calibration.
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: NOT on October 01, 2009, 06:18:09 PM
wheels are centered. stick at time of pic is centered and throttle is full forward. it has always done this. i replaced the pots thinking that was the problem. no luck. have tried different types of usb connections( hub, pci card, mobo....). same thing.




NOT
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Chalenge on October 01, 2009, 06:33:17 PM
Not what OS are you using? I just checked and I am using CHCM v 4.30 but I would think your newer version would be even better.
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: NOT on October 01, 2009, 06:35:55 PM
current OS is vista 64bit. 4.50 version seems to be better IMO.




NOT
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: NOT on October 01, 2009, 06:49:45 PM
i should note that even after unplugging and plugging back in it remains out of whack.




NOT
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Delirium on October 01, 2009, 06:54:23 PM
Considering what you have done already, I'd consider getting a RMA from CH.
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Strip on October 01, 2009, 07:52:52 PM
Considering what you have done already, I'd consider getting a RMA from CH.

CH stuff never breaks!

 :noid
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 01, 2009, 08:07:06 PM
That might be a point but I think I have seen sticks behave that way with the trims off center too. Calibrating in the game gets them working at first but then they wont hold calibration.

Not CH sticks.  The only time the calibration would get out of whack is if the trim dials were centered after you've calibrated the stick.  It wouldn't randomly cause the calibration to go bad.


ack-ack
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 01, 2009, 08:13:44 PM
Considering what you have done already, I'd consider getting a RMA from CH.

I agree with Del, it sounds like a hardware issue with the stick itself but before you send it off to CH, test it on another computer if you can.  This will help eliminate some potentional causes or help verify the problem.  

Granted, it's been many years since I've done CH tech support but the problem pretty much mirrors the symptons of using a USB port that is not outputting the necessary voltage (5 volts), which would cause the exact issue you're facing.  Dead pots could also throw your stick out of calibration at random times but usually bad pots are easy to spot during calibration when you move your stick around.

Keep in mind with powered USB hubs, not all of them output the necessary voltage despite being powered.  Usually lower end USB hubs are guilty of this, that's why I usually only recommend Belkian USB hubs since I have yet to purchase one that did not output the industry standard voltage.

Another thing you can try to eliminate the USB hub of being the culprit is to disconnect all other USB devices from your system and only connect the stick.  Try it with the powered hub and the USB ports on the mainboard, if the problem still exists and you've verified the problem on another machine than you can be pretty certain it's the stick itself.  Though usually on the rare side, sometimes you just get a bad stick out of the box.  


ack-ack
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Chalenge on October 02, 2009, 03:08:13 AM
Just to confirm Not... you are using the x64 version of CHCM?

This problem that you mention is hitting other users on XP x64 versions...

I would consider going back a revision or two with what I have been reading.

v 4.30: http://www.ch-hangar.com/files/CH_Files/chcm430v.exe
Title: Re: CH fighterstick issues
Post by: Chalenge on October 02, 2009, 03:09:31 AM
Not CH sticks.  The only time the calibration would get out of whack is if the trim dials were centered after you've calibrated the stick.  It wouldn't randomly cause the calibration to go bad.


ack-ack

Your right I was mixing apples with oranges and thinking back before I changed out the bad USB card that I mentioned.