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Title: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Anaxogoras on October 03, 2009, 07:56:40 AM
What do you use?  I currently use McAfee because it's free with Comcast, but I'm not happy with it and would like to try something else.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Nitro185 on October 03, 2009, 08:13:11 AM

ESET Smart Security 4

... Always gets the highest ratings and it's catches things that MOST other AV Software misses.....

it's better than AVG, McAffee, Norton  !

http://www.eset.com/smartsecurity/

 :aok



Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: batch on October 03, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
oh boy here comes the my AV is better than your AV thread AGAIN............

any of them are fine as long as its NOT McAfee or Norton......

as far as ratings go..... for every review that you find that says 1 is better than the other, you can find another review that says the opposite

none of them are 100% perfect.... by the very nature of the industry its impossible
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Masherbrum on October 03, 2009, 08:28:58 AM
ESET Smart Security 4.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: CAP1 on October 03, 2009, 09:31:57 AM
What do you use?  I currently use McAfee because it's free with Comcast, but I'm not happy with it and would like to try something else.

TRY ESET.......at least that's what i think it's called.


freebies that've served me well.......

spybot search and destroy

superantispyware

zone alarm
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Stalwart on October 03, 2009, 10:09:30 AM
I've always had more trouble with AV software than with viruses.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: rogwar on October 03, 2009, 11:14:47 AM
What's really wrong with Norton?  I've been using it for a couple of years now for a general use family computer. Generally upgrade each year and keep everything current. Never had any problems. The latest Norton 360 does not seem to use as much overhead either.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 03, 2009, 11:32:53 AM
I picked up a bug a couple months ago that Nod 32 found. But wasnt able to do anything about.

This utility helped


Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 1.41
http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware/3000-8022_4-10804572.html

Always good to have a backup plan.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Sandman on October 03, 2009, 01:28:41 PM
WebRoot (http://www.webroot.com/En_US/index.html)
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: 68ZooM on October 03, 2009, 02:20:04 PM
Im having a hard time finding one for my XP Pro X64 Bit , if anyone knows of one that works great for 64bit XP please either post where to go or PM me, Ive done a google search and ive tried several programs( McAfee, Nortons, even said for XP Pro 64) but they wont work on my 64bit system, the OS is up to date service pack 2, im kinda miffed  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Masherbrum on October 03, 2009, 03:53:23 PM
Im having a hard time finding one for my XP Pro X64 Bit , if anyone knows of one that works great for 64bit XP please either post where to go or PM me, Ive done a google search and ive tried several programs( McAfee, Nortons, even said for XP Pro 64) but they wont work on my 64bit system, the OS is up to date service pack 2, im kinda miffed  :rolleyes:

I switched from 32 bit XP Pro to 64 Bit Vista Ultimate.   ESET has 64 bit.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: morfiend on October 03, 2009, 06:23:03 PM
What's really wrong with Norton?  I've been using it for a couple of years now for a general use family computer. Generally upgrade each year and keep everything current. Never had any problems. The latest Norton 360 does not seem to use as much overhead either.


 I had a nasty remote dialer,it used my machine to spam emails world wide!! it was found in Norton in the quarrantine folder in a sub folder marked "quarrantined" so Norton just ignored it!

 I heard just the other day "threatfire" has a new 64bit beta coming out,presently I use avast and spybot together. This has served me well,it's free and supports 64bit. I will however be checking into threatfire asap.

 :salute
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: OOZ662 on October 03, 2009, 06:27:56 PM
Nothing. FireFox, NoScript, AdBlockPlus, and my WRT54GL w/ HyperWRT+Thibor hasn't let anything through in the few years I've used them.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Anodizer on October 03, 2009, 07:18:54 PM
Antivir (made in Germany....)
Spyware Blaster
Spybot(for the immunize feature)
Sunbelt Firewall

All through a Lynksys WRT100 my squadie sent me for free..

Was running through a Netgear WGR 614 before that..

Never have ever had anykind of intrusion or malware incident as long as
I've been using this formula..  All this software is free by the way..

With Antivirus/Security Software, seems that the more you pay for it, the less it works well and the more of a resource hog it becomes....

Corporate versions of Antivirus/Security Software are great!  But cost more than you'll ever want to spend...
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: TwinEng on October 03, 2009, 08:31:11 PM
Best Firewall by far and away is Comodo.   Very full featured, with a superior user interface that is easy to use, and it provides lots of helpful info.   Makes the Norton Firewall look like absolute junk in comparison.

Best of all, it is totally free, and has versions for both 32 bit and 64 bit Windows.   Dump your current Firewall, and install Comodo:

http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/


My computer runs so much faster since I removed Norton 360   Plus I got real tired of having to either pay them $60 every year to just continue to get virus definition and program updates, or $70 to upgrade to the latest version.   To heck with that.

The kicker that sealed the deal was when it failed to prevent me from getting infected, and could not even remove the infection, which was slowing down my PC something terrible.   Fortunately, Lavasoft Ad-Aware was able to remove it.

That is another good program to install, in addition to a firewall and anti-virus.   It is also free:

http://www.lavasoft.com/products/ad_aware_free.php


WinPatrol is also free, and is another very useful utility to have:

http://www.winpatrol.com/download.html

And so is Microsoft Defender, which is also free to get :

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/defender/default.mspx


You guys don't have to spend money to make your computers safe.



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Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Widewing on October 03, 2009, 10:19:35 PM
PC Tools suite of anti-virus, Spy Doctor, Threatfire, firewall and Registry Mechanic. Three licenses for one fee and it all works flawlessly.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Fulmar on October 04, 2009, 02:25:46 AM
NOD32 for anti-virus

Home network:

D-Link DCM-202 Modem -> AMD XP 2700+ ClarkConnect 4.3 Linix Box (Firewall, DHCP, FTP, File Storage) -> D-Link DI-524 Router (acting as wireless access point/switch) -> rest of network
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: gyrene81 on October 04, 2009, 09:41:54 AM
Norton and McAffee are notorious for not stopping known threats...and being resource hogs. If I had a dollar for every system I've had to do a complete reload or virus removal on, that was running either system, I'd own a Hummer right now. Both corporate and home user versions are proven to be easily shut down by many known viruses and malware. Tren Micro's PC Cillin is a little better, but still a resource hog.

If you're not comfortable with freeware versions of anti-virus get a paid version of Avast, Avira Antivir or Nod32...then supplement with Spybot Search and Destroy (immunization, tea timer, IE hosts features)...as well as WOT (Web of Trust)...along with not opening suspect emails/attachments...you're system will stay pretty safe.


Otherwise, stay off the russian and chinese domains, no P2P file sharing, and don't surf the porn sites...or else be ready to completely reload your computer.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Ruler2 on October 04, 2009, 10:02:10 AM
I'm using AVG 8.0 Free,Superanti spyware,and Windows Defender,they work PRETTY good but every now and then I get some stuff
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Qrsu on October 04, 2009, 10:32:35 AM
Avast!
MalwareBytes
Spybot Search&Destroy
SuperAntiSpyware
Ccleaner
Firefox  :aok
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: TheZohan on October 04, 2009, 12:03:06 PM
our Company uses the follow programs and has worked well

Avast!
Malwarebytes

those two together work well and for 99% of the people shouldnt need to run anything else.
i recommed purchasing the lifetime 24.99 license from Malwarebytes for 24/7 protection.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: eagl on October 04, 2009, 12:40:59 PM
You might want to give the new and free microsoft security essentials AV kit a try.  It seems to have a pretty low footprint and the interface is more flexible for feature customization than you might expect from MS.

The military doesn't have a corporate edition available for win7 (just vista and XP, avail for free to military members and their families) and I already put win7 on my laptop, so I put the new MSE software on the laptop.  It's pretty much transparent as far as I can tell, and it supposedly is full featured including the now common proactive measures that should "notice" unusual system activity and check for updates to see if there is a new virus out there.  Yea that might bug some people who are really concerned about privacy, but you can turn it off if you don't like it.

Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: eagl on October 04, 2009, 12:43:36 PM
I almost forgot...

DO NOT USE GOOGLE to find the new microsoft security essentials!!!  The top hits were purchased by malware developers, and on the launch date for MSE, clicking on either the top or the paid search hits for microsoft security essentials would earn you a malware download.

If you want to try MSE, go directly to microsoft.com and find it there using the MS downloads page search.  It was in their top downloads list so you can get it straight from the microsoft downloads homepage.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Masherbrum on October 04, 2009, 03:41:56 PM
Avast missed a couple of malware hits when I used it from 2004-2006.   AVG is a virus/trojan within itself.   Try and uninstall it completely, you'll come across components and files at a later date.   

Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Mustaine on October 04, 2009, 05:48:37 PM
Unless you are intentionally browsing "naughty" websites a simple AV should be fine...

I HIGHLY recommend NOD32, buy it.

If you are technically capable and at least running a home network like normal people you probably have a linksys router.

Upgrading it to DD-WRT firmware makes it as powerful as the firewall used in many business
http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/dd-wrt/about.html

There are many ways to do it, and many ways to configure it, but I can say I haven't run active anti-virus or anything else for over 3 years. My rig is clean as of 3 weeks ago as a precaution I installed and did a full scan.

Look into it, it will save you running a lot of unnecessary anti-this and than in the background and free your PC to run smooth.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: OOZ662 on October 04, 2009, 05:52:21 PM
Mustaine, would you happen to be able to provide a quick compare between HyperWRT and DD-WRT? If not, I'll go see if I can dig one up.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: TwinEng on October 05, 2009, 12:33:41 AM
I would again argue that one does not have to spend ANY money in order to have excellent protection.   You just need to do a little research.

PC World did a very complete comparative review of all of the free AntiVirus programs just over a month ago.   And AVIRA won by a big margin over all the others.   It is a really excellent product, and is 100% free.

Here is a link to the review:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/290836/review/antivir_personal.html


If you combine Avira, with the outstanding Comodo Firewall that I mentioned earlier, you will really have a great protection package.

You can add then additional free software, like SpyBot Search and Destroy, Lavasoft Ad-Ware, SpyWare Blaster, and/or WinPatrol if you want even more protection.

But you simply don't have to spend $60 to $70 a year for protection, like the big AntiVirus companies want you to.


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Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 05, 2009, 12:57:54 AM
Or you could just boot into linux when you want to surf. Windows for games, linux can do everything else more securely.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Masherbrum on October 05, 2009, 07:50:10 AM
I would again argue that one does not have to spend ANY money in order to have excellent protection.   You just need to do a little research.

PC World did a very complete comparative review of all of the free AntiVirus programs just over a month ago.   And AVIRA won by a big margin over all the others.   It is a really excellent product, and is 100% free.

Here is a link to the review:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/290836/review/antivir_personal.html


If you combine Avira, with the outstanding Comodo Firewall that I mentioned earlier, you will really have a great protection package.

You can add then additional free software, like SpyBot Search and Destroy, Lavasoft Ad-Ware, SpyWare Blaster, and/or WinPatrol if you want even more protection.

But you simply don't have to spend $60 to $70 a year for protection, like the big AntiVirus companies want you to.

I'll take ESET's NOD32, Malware and A/V over what I used to use.  Sygate Firewall and Avast.   Ad-Aware and Spybot are jokes. 
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: TwinEng on October 05, 2009, 08:35:41 AM
ESET is probably indeed one's best bet if you want to pay for Virus/Malware protection.  It costs $60/yr for one PC, or $70/yr for up to 3 computers.

I guess I just don't like buying software on a subscription basis.  Especially when I have found a decent alternative for free.  The whole concept of only having the right to use software for a subscription period has just bothered me, for some reason.

Norton is definitely not worth paying for, in my opinion.  Avira scans way, way faster than either Norton 360, or the AVG software that I also tried.

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Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Masherbrum on October 05, 2009, 11:55:12 AM
ESET is probably indeed one's best bet if you want to pay for Virus/Malware protection.  It costs $60/yr for one PC, or $70/yr for up to 3 computers.

I guess I just don't like buying software on a subscription basis.  Especially when I have found a decent alternative for free.  The whole concept of only having the right to use software for a subscription period has just bothered me, for some reason.

Norton is definitely not worth paying for, in my opinion.  Avira scans way, way faster than either Norton 360, or the AVG software that I also tried.

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For the Smart Security 4 Suite (NOD32, Malware & Firewall) I paid $80 for 2 years.   $40 a year is a bargain.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Shuffler on October 05, 2009, 01:49:50 PM
ESET Smart Security 4

AKA NOD32
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Vulcan on October 05, 2009, 04:48:50 PM
Norton and McAffee are notorious for not stopping known threats...and being resource hogs. If I had a dollar for every system I've had to do a complete reload or virus removal on, that was running either system, I'd own a Hummer right now. Both corporate and home user versions are proven to be easily shut down by many known viruses and malware. Tren Micro's PC Cillin is a little better, but still a resource hog.

I use the corporate version of mcafee, I'd say it's better than nod32. It's light, not resource hungry, and does a great job. It's also been like that for some time (as I own/use a bunch of PC's I often run mixed AV to compare performance). The home versions of mcafee are not nice I'd agree. I also hear the more recent corporate versions of symantec are vastly improved. So I'm not really sure where you get your information from but it's not correct.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Mustaine on October 05, 2009, 04:59:05 PM
Mustaine, would you happen to be able to provide a quick compare between HyperWRT and DD-WRT? If not, I'll go see if I can dig one up.
I can't say for sure as I only have experience with DD-WRT but many of those products are similar. The Linux based firewall allows so many configurations you just need to know what you are setting.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Ruler2 on October 05, 2009, 06:13:03 PM

The military doesn't have a corporate edition available for win7 (just vista and XP, avail for free to military members and their families) and I already put win7 on my laptop, so I put the new MSE software on the laptop. 



Well... lucky for me my dad's in the USAF  :D BUT I went to download it and I need somre sort of certificate,how would I get this?
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: eagl on October 05, 2009, 10:42:20 PM
You can join the military...  That's one way to get a certificate.  Actually it's the only way I know how.

The way to get the military symantec antivirus is to have the military member go to their computer resources office and have them help get it onto a CD or portable hard drive.  Flash drives are not authorized on military networks and the geniuses who run the network also disabled CD burning, so their solution is to allow portable USB hard drives...  I can plug in a 2 terabyte external hard drive to a military network, and this is somehow less of a threat than a 2gb thumbdrive or burning a 640MB cdrom?  Bunch of geniuses running the network, yessir, geeeeeeniuses.

In any case, you need to get it from within the network, and it needs to be from someone authorized to be on the network in the first place.
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: Denholm on October 05, 2009, 11:00:41 PM
ESET Smart Security 4 (Firewall, Anti-Virus (NOD32), Anti-Spyware, and Anti-Spam).
Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: TwinEng on October 06, 2009, 05:56:13 AM
I use the corporate version of mcafee, I'd say it's better than nod32. It's light, not resource hungry, and does a great job. It's also been like that for some time (as I own/use a bunch of PC's I often run mixed AV to compare performance). The home versions of mcafee are not nice I'd agree. I also hear the more recent corporate versions of symantec are vastly improved. So I'm not really sure where you get your information from but it's not correct.


But it is indeed correct, because everyone else here is using the home versions of McAfee and Symantec, and not the corporate versions like you are.

This is the big problem with both McAfee and Symantec in my opinion.   They both have forgotten about the average home computer user, and only really now care about keeping their rich corporate customers happy.

Actually, they are really no different than the US Congress, in that respect.  The Congress also now mainly focuses on serving the needs of corporations, and not average citizens.

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Title: Re: anti-virus/firewall software
Post by: MjTalon on October 06, 2009, 08:37:34 AM
ESET.