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Title: a cool mossie feature
Post by: jolly22 on October 04, 2009, 08:54:51 PM
undetectable to radar........simple.........
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: EskimoJoe on October 04, 2009, 09:01:49 PM
undetectable to radar........simple.........
Refer to quote in my signature.
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: jolly22 on October 04, 2009, 09:02:25 PM
lol........i meant simple in WORDS
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: EskimoJoe on October 04, 2009, 09:03:26 PM
Lets have the F-22 as well. Simple, right?
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Karnak on October 04, 2009, 09:13:24 PM
undetectable to radar........simple.........
One word:  "Myth"
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: MachFly on October 04, 2009, 10:21:43 PM
undetectable to radar........simple.........

the engines are still made out of metal, so it's detectable. Just not as easily detectable as most other aircraft.
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: bozon on October 05, 2009, 05:24:51 AM
the engines are still made out of metal...
... and the cables, and the bolts, and the landing gear and canopy frames and the guns and....
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Scherf on October 05, 2009, 06:05:40 AM
...lower wing panel covers and the brass screws all throughout the wing skins and ...
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: jolly22 on October 05, 2009, 06:21:31 AM
OK OK geez...........just pitching ideas.
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Saxman on October 05, 2009, 07:59:49 AM
It wasn't that the Mosquito was undetectable. It's that it was so fast that by the time they DID detect it the Luftwaffe didn't have time to intercept it.
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: waystin2 on October 05, 2009, 09:24:41 AM
Ahh here is a pilot entering an invisible plane now...

(http://www.coolopticalillusions.com/funny/funny-pictures/funny-stealth-fighter-plane.jpg)
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: LLogann on October 05, 2009, 09:53:16 AM
 :lol  :rofl  :lol
Ahh here is a pilot entering an invisible plane now...


(http://www.coolopticalillusions.com/funny/funny-pictures/funny-stealth-fighter-plane.jpg)
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: morfiend on October 05, 2009, 12:35:19 PM
It wasn't that the Mosquito was undetectable. It's that it was so fast that by the time they DID detect it the Luftwaffe didn't have time to intercept it.

 Exactly,the radar of the time was ineffective against the Mossie,mostly do to speed.

   :salute
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Nemisis on October 05, 2009, 06:46:52 PM
One word:  "Myth"

It did have a smaller radar signature, but not invisible. Impossible to fail and so.....

 
(http://www.shipmentoffail.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/funny-pictures-about-to-fail.jpg)
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Karnak on October 05, 2009, 07:10:10 PM
It did have a smaller radar signature, but not invisible. Impossible to fail and so.....

 
(http://www.shipmentoffail.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/funny-pictures-about-to-fail.jpg)
Nope, it did not have a smaller signature.  That is pure, unbridled, myth.
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Nemisis on October 05, 2009, 07:29:53 PM
Nope, it did not have a smaller signature.  That is pure, unbridled, myth.


I KNOW for a fact that there was one plane during WWII that had a reduced radar signature, can anyone fill me in?
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: EskimoJoe on October 05, 2009, 07:38:07 PM
How do you know there was a plane with a reduced radar signature and not know the plane?
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Enker on October 05, 2009, 08:52:20 PM

I KNOW for a fact that there was one plane during WWII that had a reduced radar signature, can anyone fill me in?
Yeh, this one:
(http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/ModernMechanix/11-1934/tailless_plane.jpg)
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Nemisis on October 05, 2009, 08:54:15 PM
Yeh, this one:
(http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/ModernMechanix/11-1934/tailless_plane.jpg)

Well it WAS a flying wing, but it was a single wing aircraft...
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: phatzo on October 05, 2009, 11:39:42 PM
Nope, it did not have a smaller signature.  That is pure, unbridled, myth.
:aok I'm going with Karnak because I was actually under the impresion that it gave a fairly large signature.
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Karnak on October 06, 2009, 01:35:21 AM
:aok I'm going with Karnak because I was actually under the impresion that it gave a fairly large signature.
So far as I know it was just a normal one for an aircraft its size.  It is a long standing myth that it was hard to see on radar.  I believe the British thought it might be so in WWII but in post war exercises where RAF officers watched German radar operators track a staged incoming raid they had no problem tracking the Mosquitoes.
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: bozon on October 06, 2009, 01:58:01 AM
Also, it was such a successful night fighter because the pilots ate a lot of carrots
<caugh>...<caugh>...
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Scherf on October 06, 2009, 07:24:50 AM
Yeh, this one:
(http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/ModernMechanix/11-1934/tailless_plane.jpg)

"Primarily designed as a fighting plane?"

That's some serious Hubris, right there.
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Bronk on October 06, 2009, 03:15:22 PM

I KNOW for a fact that there was one plane during WWII that had a reduced radar signature, can anyone fill me in?

Possibly the Go 229.

(http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/images/go_229_hangared.jpg)

Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Nemisis on October 06, 2009, 06:27:54 PM
Possibly the Go 229.

(http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/images/go_229_hangared.jpg)





THERE, thats it..... Thanks bronk. Might not be the same plane unless you hit "G" instead of "H" (I thought it was a Horton built plane), but looks simmilar.
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: theNewB on October 07, 2009, 03:08:09 PM
actually it is Ho 229.

(wasnt it started by the horton brothers then shifted to Gotha due to lack of manufacturing tools for mass production? guess i could search....)
Title: Re: a cool mossie feature
Post by: Wagger on October 07, 2009, 04:30:43 PM
One might get the idea of the Mossie being invisible to radar due to the way it was used operationally. Because of its high speed the Mossie besides medium altitude mission  used in low altitude operations so that they could penetrate enemy air space without being picked up on radar.  Two examples would be the Ameins Prison Raid and the Gestapo Headquarters Raid in Copenhagen.