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Title: The red baron
Post by: minke on October 06, 2009, 02:53:10 PM
just finished watching it on dvd. Some of the acting was as wooden as the aircraft,but never the less it was still impressive.
Not sure how accurate the air combat was,but -
highlights included ganging,picking and vulching.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: 33Vortex on October 06, 2009, 03:02:20 PM
highlights included ganging,picking and vulching.

 :rofl  :aok
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Saxman on October 06, 2009, 04:04:27 PM
highlights included ganging,picking and vulching.

Filmed on location in the DA?
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: minke on October 06, 2009, 04:25:41 PM
Filmed on location in the DA?

without the head ons,guess the movie had a better collision model
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Anaxogoras on October 06, 2009, 04:54:04 PM
I hear they added a completely fictional cheesy romance to spice up the film.  Von Richthofen was a rather serious and wooden man himself.  His brother Lothar is supposed to have been much more colorful.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: 33Vortex on October 06, 2009, 04:58:14 PM
Looking at his plane, Lothar was indeed more colorful.  :lol

Seriously though, I don't give much for that film, but getting to know Lothar's son is one of the highlights of my life so far.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: -tronski- on October 07, 2009, 06:29:28 AM
Were all the germans flying red Triplanes, but the main bad guy flying a green/black one who bought it with a single revolver shot to the head?

 Tronsky
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Saxman on October 07, 2009, 08:11:23 AM
...who bought it with a single revolver shot to the head?

 Tronsky

I think that's based on an actual incident.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Reaper90 on October 07, 2009, 08:46:33 AM
I think that's based on an actual incident.

Yeh, somebody did get shot in the head once with a revolver. That's the troof.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Saxman on October 07, 2009, 09:26:05 AM
Yeh, somebody did get shot in the head once with a revolver. That's the troof.

I meant the pilot of one fighter shooting the pilot of another fighter while in flight, wiseguy.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: alskahawk on October 07, 2009, 12:20:24 PM
 I had hopes for that film but it was badly made. Bad script. Much like the other recent WW1 movie. We haven't had a good WW1 movie since The Blue Max. (1966)

                                     
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: RufusLeaking on October 07, 2009, 01:13:54 PM
I meant the pilot of one fighter shooting the pilot of another fighter while in flight, wiseguy.
Are you thinking of "Flyboys?"   Another squandered opportunity to make a good, CGI flying movie. 
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: cpxxx on October 07, 2009, 02:00:08 PM
Oddly enough, I just saw a trailer on TV for the DVD. It was enough to put me off buying or even watching it. It has to be said CGI is simply not mature enough for flying movies yet. It simply doesn't look real, you cannot suspend belief if you know you're looking at CGI. Plus they make the aircraft fly like F16s. You only have to look at flying sequences in the Blue Max and VonRichtofen and Brown to see the difference.

Of course I'm biased as both movies were made near where I grew up. Can you imagine being blase about seeing formations of British and German biplanes passing overhead, not to mention casual about seeing dogfights? Well except for one particular dogfight, which I attribute to my interest in becoming a pilot. On the deck it was a duel between two pilots, so close I could see their faces. No airshow has ever come close.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Masherbrum on October 07, 2009, 02:04:42 PM
Were all the germans flying red Triplanes, but the main bad guy flying a green/black one who bought it with a single revolver shot to the head?

 Tronsky

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: alskahawk on October 07, 2009, 03:13:09 PM
 Flyboys thats the name of that POS movie.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Angus on October 08, 2009, 08:27:16 AM
Try finding "Those magnificent men in their flying machines (1965)" and enjoy.
No air combat, and some sorry cuttings, but none the less a very impressive movie with actual footage of actually flying kites predating 1910 or so!!! (well they were built new but...)
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: allaire on October 08, 2009, 08:37:55 AM
What I don't understand is why the feel the need to inject a love story into a freaking war movie.  Most guys I know have seen a movie about a war and said "it was a good movie and all, but it would have been better if there was a love story."  Just makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Saxman on October 08, 2009, 09:23:27 AM
What I don't understand is why the feel the need to inject a love story into a freaking war movie.  Most guys I know have seen a movie about a war and said "it was a good movie and all, but it would have been better if there was a love story."  Just makes no sense to me.

Because they want to bring in the female audience.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: alskahawk on October 08, 2009, 02:02:47 PM
 Von Richthofen and Brown (1971) was on last night. The plot was bad. Historically very inaccurate. But there were some good aircraft in it, some good flying sequences. Some D7s, Pfalz D3s(?) DR1s.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: crazyivan on October 08, 2009, 02:51:24 PM
Were all the germans flying red Triplanes, but the main bad guy flying a green/black one who bought it with a single revolver shot to the head?

 Tronsky
Wasnt that from the movie FlyBoys?  Saw something on the Discovery channel. Where they tried redoing the last flight of Rictofen. Were saying  the shot to his chest possibly came from a field gunner?
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Saxman on October 08, 2009, 02:53:51 PM
Yes, but as I said I believe that scene was based on an actual incident. I want to think it was Frank Luke who did it, (which is who the character was based on, incidentally) but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on October 08, 2009, 09:44:28 PM
Wasnt that from the movie FlyBoys?  Saw something on the Discovery channel. Where they tried redoing the last flight of Rictofen. Were saying  the shot to his chest possibly came from a field gunner?

A doctor who examined him said the fatal shot came from below Richthofen, entering around the hip/buttock area, and exited the chest on an upward trajectory. According to Brown's report, he could not have fired such a shot. An Australian gun crew claimed to have hit the red Dr.1 as it flew over them in pursuit of a Sopwith Camel. Brown claimed to have fired from above and behind, and said the pilot looked around at him in surprise. Brown never claimed to have been that far below the Dr.1.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Denholm on October 08, 2009, 10:25:40 PM
I also believe that Brown never claimed the kill, it was awarded to him.
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: -tronski- on October 09, 2009, 03:24:04 AM
Wasnt that from the movie FlyBoys?  Saw something on the Discovery channel. Where they tried redoing the last flight of Rictofen. Were saying  the shot to his chest possibly came from a field gunner?

It was indeed Flyboys (terrible awful movie) and Australian lewis gunners from 11th or 40th Battalion AIF most likely got him

 Tronsky
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Anaxogoras on October 09, 2009, 07:59:56 AM
Damn triple-A always ruins the good fights. ;)
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Angus on October 09, 2009, 08:37:16 AM
A lovestory tangled with a warmovie is very common, - as wild affairs under the threat of death every day indeed is.
Manfred was somewhat stiff on his job though. Lothar = more colourful ;)

BTW, one WW2 pilot famous for his chase and success with women was...Marseille ;)
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: RufusLeaking on October 09, 2009, 10:08:36 AM
A lovestory tangled with a warmovie is very common, - as wild affairs under the threat of death every day indeed is.
Manfred was somewhat stiff on his job though. Lothar = more colourful ;)
Interesting context for the word 'stiff.'
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Angus on October 09, 2009, 11:03:13 AM
Okay, let's try...."wooden"  :devil
Title: Re: The red baron
Post by: Denholm on October 09, 2009, 12:05:30 PM
Interesting context for the word 'stiff.'
:rofl