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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: wild949 on October 07, 2009, 12:02:18 PM
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Now, I know that some of these or all might have been asked for before, but these are the aircraft i would love to see in the game.
Focke Wulf Fw 200 Condor
Specifications
Type: Seven-Seat long-range maritime reconnisance bomber.
Powerplant: Four 1,200-hp. BMW-Bramo 323 R-2 Fafnir radial engines.
Max speed: 220 m.p.h.
Ceiling: 19,000 ft
Range: 2,700 mi
Weights: Empty 28,000 lb.; loaded 51,000 lb.
Weapons: Four 13-mm MG 131 machine guns in dorsal and beam positions and one MG 131 or 20-mm MG 151 in a ventral gondola; up to 4,600 lb. of bombs carried in the ventral gondola and under the wings.
Dimensions: Span 107 ft. 9 in.
Length 77 ft.
Height 20 ft 8 in.
Wing area 1290 sq. ft.
The reason why i want this one becuase it was the first aircraft Ever to use a guided missle system, Used to take out Supply ships in a convoy, it could have also been used against British war ships.The Henschel Hs 293 was the first successfuly used guided missle, It was guided by remote to its target by a wireless system, The missle had flares on it to help the pilot guide it to its target.
Kawasaki Ki-45 Toryu "Nick"
Specifications
Type: Night-fighter/Ground-attack aircraft.
Powerplant: Two 1,079-hp. Mitsubishi Ha-102 14-cylinder radial engines.
Max seed: 338 m.p.h.
Service ceiling: 33,000 ft.
Range: 1,240 mi.
Weights: Empty 8,800 lb.; loaded 12,100 lb.
Weapons; One forward-firing 37-mm cannon, two obliquely mounted upward-firing 20-mm cannon plus one 7.92-mm machine gun in rear observers position.
Dimensions: Span 49 ft
Length 36 ft.
Height 12 ft.
Wing area 344 sq. ft
The reason I want this aircraft is, One, not enough Japanese aircraft and Two, I think that this Mighty dragon slayer would be a good anti bomber aircraft, and ground attack aircraft.
Bristol Beaufighter
Specifications
Type: Long-range day and night fighter.
Powerplant: Two 1,670 hp. Bristol Hercules VI or XVI 18-cylinder two-row air-cooled radial piston engines.
Maximum speed:332 m.p.h. at 15,600 ft.
Climb rate: 7 min. 48 sec. to 15,000 ft.
Range: 1,480 mi.
Service ceiling: 26,500 ft.
Weights: empty 14,570 lb.; max takeoff 21,555 lb.
Weapons: Four 20-mm cannon plus six 7.7-mm(.303 cal.) machine guns and two 500-lb. bombs or eight rockets.
Dimensions: Span 57 ft. 10 in.
Length 41 ft. 8 in.
Height 15 ft. 10 in.
Wing area 503 sq. ft.
The reason i want this aircaft is becuase like the Ki-45 it can be used as a successful anti bomber aircraft and a good De-acker.
Fairey Fulmar
Specifications
Type: Two-seat carrier-based fighter.
Powerplant: One 1,080-hp. Rolls-Royce Merlin VIII V-12 piston engine.
Maximum speed: 247 m.p.h. at 9,000 ft.
Patrol endurance: 4 hr. with reserve.
Initial climb rate: 1,200 f.p.m.
Service ceiling:21,500 ft.
Weights: 8,700 lb. empty; 10,677 lb. max takeoff.
Weapons: Eight 7.7-mm(.303 cal.) machine guns in the wings.
Dimensions: Span 46 ft 5 in.
Length 40 ft. 2 in.
Height 14 ft.
Wing area 342 sq. ft.
The reason i want this one, well lets face it there arnt alot of british naval fighters in the game, Plus you guys complain about not having alot of EW aircraft in the game. well heres one that should be in the game.
Junkers Mistel
Specifications
Type: Fight-directed powered bomb.
Powerplant: Two 1,700-hp. BMW 801D-2 14-cylinder radial engines plus one BMW 801D-2 in Fw 190A controlling fighter.
Cruising speed: 230 m.p.h.
Attack speed: Over 372 m.p.h.
Ceiling: 15,000 ft.
Weights: Ju 88 empty 19,978 lb., loaded 35,500 lb.; wight fighter, over 44,000 lb.
Weapons: Hollow-charge explosive warhead weighing approximately 8,800 lb. installed in nose of Ju 88 aircraft, controlled by gyroscopic autopilot in terminal phase of attack.
Dimensions: Span 67 ft.
Length 48 ft.
Wing area 783 sq. ft.
Now this odd looking aircraft is in my mind a great anti carrier bomb, and it was used with success in russia and on the eastern front taking out bridges stalling most of the russian advance.
Heinkel He 100
Specifications
Type: Single-seat high-speed record-breaking fighter prototype.
Powerplant: One 2,950-hp.Daimler-Benz 601 V-12 liquid cooled inverted V piston engine.
Max speed: 415 m.p.h. at 13,100 ft.
Initial climb rate: 3,280 f.p.m.
Range: 547 mi.
Service ceiling: 34,450 ft.
Weights: Empty 4,554 lb.; loaded 5,500 lb.
Armament: Unarmed; He 100D carried one 20-mm MG FF cannon and two 7.92-mm machine guns.
Dimensions: Span 31 ft.
Length 27 ft.
Wing area 156 sq. ft.
The reason this one should be in it is becuase Heinkel Used these to protect their factories from allied bombing raids it was very successful at that but in the end the factories were destroyed. plus this is the second fastest german fighter next to the Me 262.
Focke-Wulf Ta 154 Moskito
Specifications
Type: Two-seat night and all-weather fighter.
Powerplant: Two 1,500-hp. Junkers Jumo 211R liquid cooled inverted V-12 piston engines.
Maximum speed: 403 m.p.h.
Climb rate: Climb to 26,250 ft. in 14 min. 30 sec.
Range: 850 mi.
Service ceiling: 35,750 ft.
Weights: Empty 14,090 lb.; max takeoff 19,650 lb.
Weapons: Three 30-mm Mk 108 cannon and two 20-mm MG 151/20 cannon.
Dimensions: Span 52 ft. 6 in.
Length 38 ft. 8 in.
Height 11 ft. 6 in.
Wing area 349 sq. ft.
Now granted that this aircraft saw very little action in the late war, i still think it would be a nice addition to the game, plus like the Beaufighter and the Ki-45 it would be a great anti bomber aircraft.
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would be a good anti bomber aircraft
can be used as a successful anti bomber aircraft
Used these to protect their factories from allied bombing raids
would be a great anti bomber aircraft.
bomber hater
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Type: Single-seat high-speed record-breaking fighter prototype
FAIL!
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:rolleyes:
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Now, I know that some of these or all might have been asked for before, but these are the aircraft i would love to see in the game.
Heinkel He 100
Specifications
Type: Single-seat high-speed record-breaking fighter prototype.
Powerplant: One 2,950-hp.Daimler-Benz 601 V-12 liquid cooled inverted V piston engine.
Max speed: 415 m.p.h. at 13,100 ft.
Initial climb rate: 3,280 f.p.m.
Range: 547 mi.
Service ceiling: 34,450 ft.
Weights: Empty 4,554 lb.; loaded 5,500 lb.
Armament: Unarmed; He 100D carried one 20-mm MG FF cannon and two 7.92-mm machine guns.
Dimensions: Span 31 ft.
Length 27 ft.
Wing area 156 sq. ft.
The reason this one should be in it is becuase Heinkel Used these to protect their factories from allied bombing raids it was very successful at that but in the end the factories were destroyed. plus this is the second fastest german fighter next to the Me 262.
What? They only manufactured around 25 of these things INCLUDING the Prototypes. More than 1/2 were flown by Test Pilots and abused in testing. One D-0 was sent to Japan and was copied/improved upon in the Ki-61 Hien. So that leaves about 10 remaining, those were destroyed trying "to save the plant".
They are FAR from the "second fastest german fighter". Me-163, Me-262, Ta-152, FW 190 D-9, Bf109 K-4 and many others were faster than this. Heinkel had hoped to achieve 440mph with the design, but failed when they installed the Radiator and Armament.
I'm curious to what you were reading/viewing to even remotely approach your claims? While I admire some of the picks you chose, I'm just trying to shed some truth on "claims". The Ki-45 was a feared plane by the USAAF and would be a great addition.
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what about the other aircraft besides the He 100, An no Im not a bomber hater. I fly bombers alot more then fighters. and yes i agree the Ki-45 would be a great aircraft to have, The info came from my Air Force JROTC aircraft book. Also the Essex class Carriers that are in the game are to narrow, the real Essex's were wider, and I would like to see folding wings on naval aircraft to make squad based missions more realistic like 30 or 40 aircraft on the deck at once ready to take off.
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Heinkel He 100
Specifications
Type: Single-seat high-speed record-breaking fighter prototype.
Powerplant: One 2,950-hp.Daimler-Benz 601 V-12 liquid cooled inverted V piston engine.
Max speed: 415 m.p.h. at 13,100 ft.
Initial climb rate: 3,280 f.p.m.
Range: 547 mi.
Service ceiling: 34,450 ft.
Weights: Empty 4,554 lb.; loaded 5,500 lb.
Armament: Unarmed; He 100D carried one 20-mm MG FF cannon and two 7.92-mm machine guns.
Dimensions: Span 31 ft.
Length 27 ft.
Wing area 156 sq. ft.
The reason this one should be in it is becuase Heinkel Used these to protect their factories from allied bombing raids it was very successful at that but in the end the factories were destroyed. plus this is the second fastest german fighter next to the Me 262.
Heinkel's Marienehe factory defense unit that flew the He 100 never saw any action or encountered any Allied planes since there weren't any Allied bombers venturing that far into Germany at that early stage of the war.
The Ki-45 was a feared plane by the USAAF and would be a great addition.
Not really. As McGuire stated in his "Combat Operations in the SW Pacific Area" the Nick was easily out maneuvered by the P-38 and wasn't much feared at all by Allied fighters. Its armament was effective against the B-29 but the Nick's performance was not sufficient enough to counter B-29s flying at high altitudes. Even after modifications to raise its performance wasn't sufficient enough though it did achieve some success using ramming attacks and later as a kamikazi plane.
As a night fighter, it was given upward firing guns that showed some promise but the lack of radar pretty much handicapped the Nick as a night fighter. When US Navy fighters and Iwo P-51s started to escort the B-29s over Japan in '45, the Nick's fate was pretty much sealed.
ack-ack
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Heinkel's Marienehe factory defense unit that flew the He 100 never saw any action or encountered any Allied planes since there weren't any Allied bombers venturing that far into Germany at that early stage of the war.
Not really. As McGuire stated in his "Combat Operations in the SW Pacific Area" the Nick was easily out maneuvered by the P-38 and wasn't much feared at all by Allied fighters. Its armament was effective against the B-29 but the Nick's performance was not sufficient enough to counter B-29s flying at high altitudes. Even after modifications to raise its performance wasn't sufficient enough though it did achieve some success using ramming attacks and later as a kamikazi plane.
As a night fighter, it was given upward firing guns that showed some promise but the lack of radar pretty much handicapped the Nick as a night fighter. When US Navy fighters and Iwo P-51s started to escort the B-29s over Japan in '45, the Nick's fate was pretty much sealed.
ack-ack
Not by fighters, but by bomber pilots. The Ki-45 was an effective bomber killer.
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I wish I may I wish I might have a ME-410 and A P-61 Black Widow, and A-26.
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Ta154 'Moskito' never saw service.
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Ta154 'Moskito' never saw service.
thats not what my JROTC aircraft book said
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thats not what my JROTC aircraft book said
If it said that it saw any combat then it would be incorrect.
ack-ack
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It says seven airframes had been completed and were used operationaly by one night fighter unit in january 1945.
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YOU JUST FAILED!!!!!
:aok
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thats not what my JROTC aircraft book said
This is what
The History of German Aviation
KURT TANK:
FOCKE-WULF's DESIGNER
AND TEST PILOT
has to say about the Ta154's service:
Factory documents only give speed performance figures for the Jumo 213A and E fitted aircraft, although other material has been derived from comparison flights against the British Mosquito. These show the Ta154 with Jumo 213A reaching a speed of 630kph at an altitude of 8500 metersm while the Mosquito with its two RR Merlin 21s attained a top speed of 620kph at 6300 meters altitude. The Ta154 could therefore only successfully attack a Mosquito if it enjoyed a significant height advantage - a poor showing indeed! Otherwise there is no shame in comparing the speed figures of the two aircraft. On the other hand the Jumo 213E powered Ta154 was markedly superior to the Mosquito and its two Merlins. The Mosquito could achieve 630kph at an altitude of 8500 meters and the Ta154 approximately 740kph at 10500 meters. With this variant, not only would it have been possible to carry out relatively successful anti-Mosquito operations, but it also met the Technisches Amt's requirements. However, in order to deliver adequate high altitude performance the Ta154's wing area would have required an increase to 40 meters squared and its span to 17.8 meters. The weight increase and drag incurred by the larger wing and a pressurized cockpit would have been offset by a GM1 system, which probably would have improved performance overall.
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Shortly thereafter, some Ta154A-1s built in Cottbus were evaluated by a night-fighter wing stationed in Stade. While this was going on, Focke-Wulf worked out a plan for using the remaining partially completed aircraft. This involved the well-known Mistel principal, whereby an Fw190A-4 would be mounted above a Ta154on a break free framework. The Ta154's fuselage would be filled with explosives. The pilot of the Fw190 would fly the joined pair towards a bomber formation and, when in firing range, release himself from the Ta154. When the Ta154 had reached the formation, the pilot would detonate the explosive charge via radio, causing a massive explosion. The idea was never put into practice due to the fact that much time was needed to develop and test a practical release system for the Fw190/Ta154 combination, and time was running out.
The plan was tackled in another way; the six remaining Ta154s and prepared for carrying a 2000kg explosive load and 1300 liters of fuel. When reaching the vicinity of approaching enemy bomber formations the aircraft was to be flown on a collision course, with the pilot escaping through a new type of downward firing ejection seat just before impact. Although the six planes were indeed completed, they were never used for this purpose.
It is worth noting that they are comparing the 1945 Ta154 to a 1942 Mosquito B.Mk IV.
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Looks like the author of your JROTC book got his/her information from Wikipedia :rolleyes:
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bomber hater
Is there a rule that skuzzy places on "bomber haters"?
Good set of AC. some we may never see on AH.
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I'm curious to what you were reading/viewing to even remotely approach your claims? While I admire some of the picks you chose, I'm just trying to shed some truth on "claims".
But, but wiki is always right!!!
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Looks like the author of your JROTC book got his/her information from Wikipedia :rolleyes:
name one place on the net that is never wrong? all the stuff out there is placed according to whoever wrote the stuff and his own bias and some of it is only based on a true story. dont just disregard stuff just because its on this website or pretend its true because its on that one. if your own contribution is just to complain that its on wikipedia or any other source, without actually proving it wrong, then why bloat the thread. remember you can have two different books contradicting each other and yet they can both be right. what actually is considered "combat action" is elusive, there's lots of pilots that will tell you that they saw action over germany when not a single bullet was fired in anger at them. are they telling the truth when they say they saw action? some say yes, some say no. some sources will say that a plane saw action if it upped and did a circle around the base and landed when some enemy planes were in sight, some other will look at the same and say that plane never saw action. how is written and worded is based on whoever wrote the book. so if he has a book that says that plane saw action and u have another that says that plane never saw action. u could actually both be right.
semp
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what about the other aircraft in my list? the Fulmar for instance. that saw lots of action protecting the suply convoys. plus my other idea, the folding wings on naval aircraft and making the carriers wider.
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Folding wings wouldn't add anything to the game. It might look neat, but we don't have friendly collisions so it's not like you need to fold your wings to fit more planes on deck, and aircraft all spawn in position for takeoff, and we don't have crewmen to spot aircraft (pilots didn't spot themselves by backing up like we do on the game, the aircraft were positioned by the carrier's flight crew).
There's other things of far, FAR more importance that are needed than that what would be purely an aesthetic detail.
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Its still a nice cocept though, Anyways what about the other planes on the list?
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Is there a rule that skuzzy places on "bomber haters"?
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The highest priority would be the Ki-45, followed by the Beaufighter. The Fullmar wouldn't be a bad addition, but I don't know that there's many glaring gaps that it fills in the Mains or special events. The same with the Fw-200: it wouldn't add much to either the Mains or special events.
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But still you know, I think the Condor should be added along with its missle, It would be a good anti ship plane. The reason i wanted the Fulmar is becuase that there arnt that many brit naval aircraft in the game for one and two people were complain there arnt that many EW aircraft in the game.