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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Karnak on September 07, 2001, 10:57:00 AM
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I know this is an unusual request in some ways.
(http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/cwharton/sbm/kiddmarkings.jpg)
As can be clearly seen on this modeling color chart the Mosquito FB.VI "Black Rufe" possesed "Exhaust Flame Damping Shrouds" or "Ducted Saxophone Exhausts" (whichever term you prefer) that significantly reduce performance. The only purpose to these devices was for night operation which AH doesn't currently model.
The Mosquito is already a marginal aircraft in the context of AH. If it is modeled with the exhaust damping it will be even less useful as even N1K2s will outrun it. It would be kind of ironic if the Mosquito were to be one of the slowest aircraft in AH, even at sea level.
Given the kind of combat that it will be used for (daylight) the first thing that pilots would demand is for the exhaust damping system to be replaced with exhaust ejector stubs in order to give some slim chances of survival. 14mph (and whatever acceleration and climb improvement) can make the difference between survival and death.
In an environment in which very fast aircraft are much more common than what the Mosquito FB.VI had to deal with in reality it would be a shame to reduce the usefulness of the Mosquito by modeling it as the slower of the two possibilities.
Thanks.
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yeah.
no need to make the mossie slower than it needs to be.
fine if exhaust shrouds are on the 3d model for simplicity but no sense in degrading the planes performance because of that simplicity.
but I think this is what pyro was doing anyway.
simpler poly's for the model and standard performance for the plane
[ 09-07-2001: Message edited by: Fester' ]
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Anyone know where to get those markings for the Tamiya Mossie in 1/48th?
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Originally posted by Pongo:
Anyone know where to get those markings for the Tamiya Mossie in 1/48th?
Try the Airfix decals Pongo, I got the same markings on my 1/48th scale Airfix Mosquito FB.VI. I can't help you with where exactly to get the decals on their own though you could try emailing Airfix direct?
http://www.airfix.com/Models.asp?MOD=7100&CAT=1 (http://www.airfix.com/Models.asp?MOD=7100&CAT=1)
Regards
Nexx
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In that case HTC needs to model one plane already existing in AH without additional armour-plates ;)
That is fair isn't it :)
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Staga,
No, it isn't fair or unfair. Its completely unrelated.
It isn't you or I that make these decisions. It is HTC who will decide. We merely make requests.
If you want some change in an existing aircraft I suggest that you start a thread about it and cease hijacking threads about other subjects.
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Karnak you had a proposal and I just showed where it leads.
There's no room for double-standards in AH imo.
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Staga,
There are no standards in AH.
I'm surprised you haven't seen that already.
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Never underestimate HTC's ability to pork twin engined planes ;) :D
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Never underestimate the community's ability to whine about something that doesn't yet exist. :D
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BRIAN: There's no pleasing some people.
EX-LEPER: That's just what Jesus said, sir.
Tronsky
486 Sqn (NZ),"Hiwa hau Maka"
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Karnak,
I wouldn't worry about the exhaust damping shrouds at all! I was talking to a De Havilland technician today at the DH Heritage Museum and he said that the shrouds actually caused a jet like effect which boosted speed up to 20mph. This wasn't found out until after the war, why I don't know, but I wasn't going to argue with a technician who had been working for DH for 40 odd years! :)
See my other thread on the General forum.
Regards
Nexx
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Nexx several planes benefited from exhaust mods which created a jet effect increasing top speeds slightly.
SKurj
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Thanks for the info.
Coming from DeHaviland it sounds good. :D
My souces were a book of mine and Nashwan.
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lol tronski :D
FOLLOW THE GOURD!!!!
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Originally posted by hazed-:
lol tronski :D
FOLLOW THE GOURD!!!!
heheh
Follow the Gourd! The Holy Gourd of Jerusalem!
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Devout Disciple: "Only the messiah would deny his divinity!"
Brian: "Okay, I am the messiah."
Crowd: "He is the messiah! He is the messiah!"
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BEN: You must have slipped him a few shekels, eh?
BRIAN: Slipped him a few shekels? You saw him spit in my face!
BEN: Ohh! What wouldn't I give to be spat at in the face! I sometimes hang awake at night dreaming of being spat at in the face.
BRIAN: Well, it's not exactly friendly, is it? They had me in manacles!
BEN: Manacles! Ooh oooh oh oh. My idea of heaven is to be allowed to be put in manacles...just for a few hours. ..... They must think the sun shines out o' your arse, sonny.
Tronsky
486 Sqn (NZ),"Hiwa hau Maka"
[ 09-09-2001: Message edited by: -tronski- ]
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Monty Python fans behave pretty much opposite to cokroaches: Turn on the light and they all run for the centre of the room. :)
P.S. Sorry we hijacked your post Karnak. And now for something completely different...
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FRANCIS: We're gettin' in through the underground heating system here, up through into the main audience chamber here, and Pilate's wife's bedroom is here. Having grabbed his wife, we inform Pilate that she is in our custody and forthwith issue our demands. Any questions?
COMMANDO XERXES: What exactly are the demands?
REG: We're giving Pilate two days to dismantle the entire apparatus of the Roman Imperialist State, and if he doesn't agree immediately, we execute her.
MATTHIAS: Cut her head off?
FRANCIS: Cut all her bits off. Send 'em back on the hour every hour. Show them we're not to be trifled with.
REG: And of course, we point out that they bear full responsibility when we chop her up, and that we shall not submit to blackmail!
COMMANDOS: No blackmail!
REG: They've bled us white, the bastards. They've taken everything we had, and not just from us, from our fathers, and from our fathers' fathers.
LORETTA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers.
REG: Yeah.
LORETTA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers.
REG: Yeah. All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?!
XERXES: The aquaduct?
REG: What?
XERXES: The aquaduct
REG: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah.
COMMANDO #3: And the sanitation.
LORETTA: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, Reg. Remember what the city used to be like?
REG: Yeah. All right. I'll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done.
MATTHIAS: And the roads.
REG: Well, yeah. Obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don't they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads--
COMMANDO: Irrigation.
XERXES: Medicine.
COMMANDOS: Huh? Heh? Huh...
COMMANDO #2: Education.
COMMANDOS: Ohh...
REG: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough.
COMMANDO #1: And the wine.
COMMANDOS: Oh, yes. Yeah...
FRANCIS: Yeah. Yeah, that's something we'd really miss, Reg, if the Romans left. Huh.
COMMANDO: Public baths.
LORETTA: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now, Reg.
FRANCIS: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this.
COMMANDOS: Hehh, heh. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.
REG: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
XERXES: Brought peace.
REG: Oh. Peace? Shut up!
:D