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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: USRanger on October 07, 2009, 03:58:00 PM
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Today a work buddy of mine brought in a newspaper his 91 year old grandfather just gave him. The paper: The Honolulu Gazette. The date: December 7th, 1941. That's right, the local paper from the day of the attack. It's slightly yellowed, but not much. No tears. It was an absolutely amazing read. So much detail of the attacks they never talk about, like individual civilians killed & how they died. Awesome awesome awesome descriptions of the attack (with pictures I've never seen anywhere). It talks how there were "4 waves" in the attack (not true) and reports of "Japanese parachute forces that were dealt with" (also not true). And other fog of war accounts. I was mesmerized looking through it.
I'm sorry to say that my buddy is from Generation Crap and has no idea what he has. Except for the slight yellowing, it's mint. I made the mistake of telling him it was probably worth a lot of money. I could see the dollar signs in his eyes. The idiot is keeping it folded up in a plastic grocery bag at the moment, not protected from light or air at all. That breaks my heart. It should be in a museum. Appealing to his patriotism as an American is a no-go (like I said, Generation Crap). He just wants to make some quick money. Either that or his heathen kids will get ahold of it and ruin it. If only I hadn't let him know its worth. He doesn't and won't understand the real worth is historical, not monetary. I'm afraid what's going to happen to this piece of history, as I know him and his sons well and they have no appreciation of what they have. I'm gonna do my damnedest to barter with him for it (he'll want more money than I have now that he knows its valuable). It is my duty as an American to save this before it's destroyed or ruined forever. If somehow, someway I can get it off him, I know what to do to save it from the elements. He could care less about that. If by some miracle I do get it, I will be contacting the Smithsonian and other museums to donate it. I don't want any damn money, I want to save it for our country! Tomorrow I will take my camera in and have him bring it back in. I will take pictures and post them here, so that you all can see what a treasure it really is.
Wish me luck. :salute
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Amazing and sad at the same time.... good luck!
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How old is this smuck?
Thats an awesome find I hope you can work something out for it and put it where it belongs.....
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25. I could always just kill him and take it.
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Does he really understand the importance? Educate him, maybe he just does not fathom it all? Who knows, that generation for the most part cant see beyond their twitter screen.... :rolleyes:
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Generation Crap
Come on now. Indeed I dislike many people my age, but this is a bit unnecessary. Good luck on getting it back though! Keep us posted...but maybe without demeaning those of us who don't suck at life. :rock
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Lost cause with him. I've known him for years. He's only interested in making money off it, yet I KNOW he will never get around to doing anything with it, just stuffed somewhere waiting to be ruined forever. Trust me, I will give it my all. You can tell it hasn't been exposed to air until now. Now it's just in a friggin grocery bag. It's full of accounts from witnesses such as them seeing "destroyers headed out the harbor, black smoke rising from their stacks, throwing up black puffs of anti-aircraft fire" and "seeing the red meatball on the wings of the planes as they dropped bombed on Honolulu" and how "an unidentified Chinaman was killed when a bomb exploded in front of Sally's Flowershop, shattering all the windows". It's just amazing.
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Come on now. Indeed I dislike many people my age, but this is a bit unnecessary. Good luck on getting it back though! Keep us posted...but maybe without demeaning those of us who don't suck at life. :rock
Apologies. Of course not all are like that, but the people his age at my shop are. Not one of them could give a hoot about it. One even recommended using it "as a big rolling paper" so they could get high after work. That's the type I'm surrounded by there.
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They aren't worth a terribly large amount of money. Offer him $50 and see if he takes it.
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I have several original copies, my grandmother was supposed to have breakfast at the harbor with a nurse friend that morning. Fortunately, she didn't make it...
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8 page extra for the Honolulu Star Bulletin - December 7 1941:
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~keller/news/work/index.html
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Heya Ranger. if you can get a price for it, I'm in for $20 bucks just to rescue it. I dont ever need to see it, just send me the addy and the check will be otw.
ReDhAwK
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Ranger ,
The Best thing to do is offer to at least put in in a jacket or have the pages preserved for him. tell himn he can get more for it !
Th ething isnt what can he get buthow can we preserve it for the guy who buys it and shows it to generations to come
A print shop can at least wrap the paper to stop any more degregation .
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Roger that. Will do. :salute
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offer to put it on ebay for him, then buy it yourself.
probably won't go for that much.
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25. I could always just kill him and take it.
This.
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25. I could always just kill him and take it.
ask himif you can see it again. when he gets it out, kick his arse and take it. give him $20, and tell him the museum thanks him. :devil
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:lol :lol :rofl
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There is one already listed (reproduction):
http://cgi.ebay.com/WW-II-Newspaper-Pearl-Harbor-Hawaii-Start-of-WAR-JAPAN_W0QQitemZ350197177408QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518960dc40
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Ask him for it, when he says 'no', say ' I'll give you 20 bucks for it '.
Amazing, I might add. That people can be so stupid.
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Maybe we can get a pool together.
I'll put up $20
money is tight atm and that is all i can afford without the wife scalping me. But, if i can siphon off some more I will.
I dont know what something like that is worth money wise but, I agree it should be preserved and given to a museum or something for future generations to see
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Talking about saving this newspaper and people donating got me to thinking.
What if, and I know this is a long shot, but what if the AH community as a whole somehow formed some type of museum?
I'm guessing it could be in the Dallas/FW area close to where HTC is located and where the cons seem to be located in the past couple of years. I know the logistics would be tough to tackle as far as a building, finances, who would run it and look over it, how accessible it is to people, etc. but every museum starts out that way. I know that with the tons of members of the community and the plethora of memorabilia, artifacts, art, books, etc. that people have, I think it would be an amazing place.
Of course at first it would require a ton of volunteer work and would be hard for people to get there to work on it being as spread out as the player base is. The thought just hit me as to exactly how many historical treasures there are out there in this community.
I know it's something that would be far from reality and would never come to fruition most likely but never the less a novel idea IMHO.
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Yup I had a buddy like this guy. Sold a bunch of nazi uniforms flags and trinkets for money. His grandfather got it all during the war and risked his life doing so. I believe he got his second or third DUI with that money.
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I was waiting for the question of "how can I steal the newspaper from this guy" lol