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Title: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: thorsim on October 07, 2009, 06:26:00 PM: (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-J16509%2C_Günther_Rall.jpg)

Lt. General Gunther Rall
March 10th, 1918 - October 4, 2009

General Rall passed away after suffering a heart attack on September 2nd.

He was 91 years old.

Rest in peace, sir.

Mark Copeland

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=18442

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-J1112-0206-004%2C_Günther_Rall.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Günther_Rall

++S++ General

Blue Skies Gunther

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Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: 007Rusty on October 07, 2009, 06:40:30 PM: :salute
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: fudgums on October 07, 2009, 06:44:37 PM: Clear skies and tailwinds for ever
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Post by: thndregg on October 07, 2009, 06:47:43 PM: <S> to him, and to WW2 veteran pilots on all sides.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: slimmer on October 07, 2009, 06:57:57 PM: :salute :salute :salute :salute :salute :salute :salute
:salute :salute :salute :salute :salute :salute :salute
:salute :salute :salute :salute :salute :salute :salute
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: kilo2 on October 07, 2009, 07:07:20 PM: :salute to a true ace
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Post by: ACE on October 07, 2009, 07:15:56 PM: :salute
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Post by: Stiglr on October 07, 2009, 07:36:41 PM: Always sad to see one of the legends go. But he had a good, long life! :salute
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Post by: texastc316 on October 07, 2009, 07:42:30 PM: Salute
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Post by: Scotch on October 07, 2009, 09:18:50 PM: :(
That guy was a bad ass.
:salute
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Post by: Shifty on October 07, 2009, 10:06:13 PM: Hell of a guy.
<S>
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: jay on October 07, 2009, 10:30:48 PM: may he continue to fly the skies were he is now <S> :salute :salute :salute :salute
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: oakranger on October 08, 2009, 12:05:29 AM: :salute
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Post by: morfiend on October 08, 2009, 12:31:32 AM: :salute
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Post by: BlauK on October 08, 2009, 01:12:09 AM: :salute

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/WW2History-GuntherRallEnglish.html
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Post by: EskimoJoe on October 08, 2009, 01:50:16 AM: Quote from: fudgums on October 07, 2009, 06:44:37 PM
Clear skies and tailwinds for ever

2009 has been a bad year. :(

:salute
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Post by: Nurminen on October 08, 2009, 04:44:42 AM: :salute
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Post by: pervert on October 08, 2009, 06:09:34 AM: :salute
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Post by: Hawk55 on October 08, 2009, 07:51:01 AM: Quote from: BlauK on October 08, 2009, 01:12:09 AM
:salute

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/WW2History-GuntherRallEnglish.html

That's an awesome interview! Thanks for sharing the link Blauk.

:salute
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Post by: JunkyII on October 08, 2009, 08:01:23 AM: :salute
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Post by: JC67 on October 08, 2009, 10:41:48 AM: :salute Sir
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Post by: TheflyingElk on October 08, 2009, 01:14:22 PM: Just as a observation....Even tho he was a great pilot and a respected member of the WWII community, I venture to guess that the many of the Allied veteran combat pilots still with us may see this event as "about DAM time". Just think about watching your wingman and your roommate going down screaming in pain and fear...before hitting the ground from 10k. I just think we need to remember that war is about Killing and suffering not just glory and achievement, even tho I respect his skill as a warrior and aviator......many or our allied airman never came home because of the true nature of air combat. Lest we forget :salute
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Post by: SASMOX on October 08, 2009, 01:33:59 PM: :salute
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Post by: 2ADoc on October 08, 2009, 02:12:59 PM: Fly East :salute
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Post by: Akondo on October 08, 2009, 05:16:58 PM: I have personally seen Gunther Rall , Bud Anderson, and Shorty Rankin all share their war stories together. Not one of them hold any grudge towards the other. They said that the war was a terrible waste of young men on both sides. To see these men laugh and share tears together is a humbling experience. They may have been mortal enemies years ago but I can tell you not all American aces feel that way...And neither do I. We must learn from our past mistakes because no one was inocent of wrong doing in WWII.

Akondo
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: Noah17 on October 10, 2009, 12:38:44 PM: I always enjoyed the interviews of Gunther Rall that I would see in the various documentaries. He was somebody that you think would be great to sit down have a beer with and just sit silently and listen to all the amazing things that he lived through.

Though some may even still today see him as wearing a uniform and still being an enemy; I think those people have wounds and issues that they are dealing with that are too difficult to allow them to see it any other way. He fought for his country but I don't ever remember hearing of him being accused of anything like a "war crime."
There have been Americans that were fighting for our country that were accused of and found guilty of some terrible things....But they too have a story all their own.

I've never had to be in a situation where I had to kill another for any reason but, I have been in some very nasty fights and, dangerous situations with people I later found deep respect and even lasting friendship with. I'd rather live in a world where that is possible and I choose to see Gunther Rall as a person that lived in that same world.
:salute
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Post by: -pjk-- on October 10, 2009, 02:49:53 PM: :salute

PS.Gunter Rall was very high ranking NATO officer later in his career.
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Post by: chris3 on October 10, 2009, 02:58:08 PM: moin

to bad i need a u.s board to get notice that Gunther rall parsed away. nobody cares in my country that's the real bad :frown:
you guys get them the honor thay earned.
:salute
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: MORAY37 on October 10, 2009, 03:20:47 PM: Quote from: TheflyingElk on October 08, 2009, 01:14:22 PM
Just as a observation....Even tho he was a great pilot and a respected member of the WWII community, I venture to guess that the many of the Allied veteran combat pilots still with us may see this event as "about DAM time". Just think about watching your wingman and your roommate going down screaming in pain and fear...before hitting the ground from 10k. I just think we need to remember that war is about Killing and suffering not just glory and achievement, even tho I respect his skill as a warrior and aviator......many or our allied airman never came home because of the true nature of air combat. Lest we forget :salute

Keep your observations to this....

:salute General Rall.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: BnZs on October 10, 2009, 03:21:46 PM: All this living history will soon be gone...inevitable but sad. :salute
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Post by: BillyD on October 10, 2009, 06:15:16 PM: Quote from: Scotch on October 07, 2009, 09:18:50 PM
:(
That guy was a bad ass.
:salute

+1 :salute gunther
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: mike254 on October 10, 2009, 07:31:53 PM: :salute
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Post by: Shuffler on October 10, 2009, 07:39:53 PM: See Rule #2
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Post by: newz on October 10, 2009, 07:41:14 PM: See Rule #2
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Post by: BlauK on October 11, 2009, 05:57:22 AM: See Rule #2
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: Skuzzy on October 11, 2009, 07:18:53 AM: Why this has to be done is beyond me, but let's make it simple. Here is the pertinent forum posting rule everyone needs to have stamped on thier monitor, so they cannot miss it, as it is the most violated forum rule we have.

"4. Flamebaiting, flaming, being abusing, being disrepectful, trolling, spamming or posting to incite or annoy is not allowed. If you cannot make a positive contribution to the thread, then just stay out of it."

That rule, along with the rest are expected to be respected. If you cannot do so, then please leave the board so others who do respect the forum rules might enjoy it more.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: Angus on October 11, 2009, 08:42:23 AM: :salute to Rall

So many of those old WW2 pilots are now gone, lets salute the dead and embrace the precious living that we still have.
By the way, Rall was a pall-bearer of many of the LW's greatest, and possibly some of the RAF (he did make very good friends with many of them). I will be polite and post a topic about the post war connection of the LW, RAF and the USAF.
Anyway, one of the greatest fighter pilots in history has passed. another salute :salute
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Post by: Noah17 on October 11, 2009, 09:18:48 AM: Skuzzy,

I went back through the posting. I didn't see what/who it was that violated rule #2. What happened? Was the post removed?
Just learning here.......

Nothing bothers me more than someone that can't be respectful to others here. Sometimes I think channel 200 should be "shut down." But that's letting a few rotten folks ruin it for others.
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Post by: helbent on October 11, 2009, 09:23:23 AM: Rall is and will always be my favorite fighter pilot to listen to. Everytime there is a WWII aviation show on TV, I wait patiently hoping that they will interview my favorite combat pilot. I wished I had the opputunity to meet him in person.

:salute General Rall Sir :salute
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Post by: Masherbrum on October 11, 2009, 09:56:50 AM: :salute Herr Rall.
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Post by: Maverick on October 11, 2009, 11:05:20 AM: Fair skies and tailwinds forever. :salute
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Post by: Shuffler on October 11, 2009, 12:41:19 PM: Finally :cheers:
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Post by: Coog03 on October 11, 2009, 12:42:59 PM: :salute
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Post by: KgB on October 11, 2009, 01:25:58 PM: Quote from: Skuzzy on October 11, 2009, 07:18:53 AM
........."4. Flamebaiting, flaming, being abusing, being disrepectful, trolling, spamming or posting to incite or annoy is not allowed. If you cannot make a positive contribution to the thread, then just stay out of it."

That rule, along with the rest are expected to be respected. If you cannot do so, then please leave the board so others who do respect the forum rules might enjoy it more.

Could one start a thread dedicated to negative side of the person? If so,would making positive comments about that person will result in being edited according to

4. Flamebaiting, flaming, being abusing, being disrepectful, trolling, spamming or posting to incite or annoy is not allowed. If you cannot make a positive contribution to the thread, then just stay out of it.

Not trying to insult, its just unclear.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: CAP1 on October 11, 2009, 01:42:39 PM: Quote from: Angus on October 11, 2009, 08:42:23 AM
:salute to Rall

So many of those old WW2 pilots are now gone, lets salute the dead and embrace the precious living that we still have.
By the way, Rall was a pall-bearer of many of the LW's greatest, and possibly some of the RAF (he did make very good friends with many of them). I will be polite and post a topic about the post war connection of the LW, RAF and the USAF.
Anyway, one of the greatest fighter pilots in history has passed. another salute :salute

angus........

i know it's going to be hard, considering....but if there is some way that you do try to put up audio of your chat with him, i, for one, would be very interested in hearing some of it. i'll even give ya my email if tht makes it easier.

thank ya sir!
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: Anodizer on October 11, 2009, 06:23:59 PM: Klar Himmel, Herr Rall! :salute
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Post by: Brooke on October 16, 2009, 07:06:20 PM: Quote from: BlauK on October 08, 2009, 01:12:09 AM
:salute

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/WW2History-GuntherRallEnglish.html

Thank you for posting this.

:salute
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: BlauK on October 29, 2009, 01:31:31 PM: Just noticed that there was an obituary in Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125548213064683963.html?mod=article-outset-box
Title: Re: R.I.P. Gunther Rall ++S++
Post by: Rino on October 29, 2009, 03:43:43 PM: Quote from: EskimoJoe on October 08, 2009, 01:50:16 AM
2009 has been a bad year. :(

:salute

A fighter pilot that makes it to 91 has had a darn good run. Alot of them never made it out of their twenties.