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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Latrobe on October 08, 2009, 04:40:49 AM
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I've always thought the P-47's are just way to weak in AHII? You hear of these stories of Pilots from WWII still coming home even after German pilots used up every single round trying to shoot it down. Yet, in AHII, it seems it just takes the same number of rounds to set it on fire or take a wing off as any other plane in the game. Granted that even with a P-47, a few well placed rounds would take it out of the sky anyway, but it just seems a little weak than the stories we hear about it in war time.
What are everyone elses thoughts on the P-47s damage modeling? Does it seem too weak? or maybe some of you think it's too strong? or is it just right and I'm just paranoid? :noid :D
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Its prety rugged.
In furball lake a spit caught me low and slow in a d-40.
I kept weaving and he eventually ran out of ammo.
I only lost a flap and an elevator.
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Real life had a slightly altered damage model.
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all planes and gvs are modeled to my understanding to be what ive been told as "game fairness".
but imo there are a lot of both that are over/under modeled.
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Seems pretty strong to me. One of the only fighters than can absorb a tater without it being a game bug.
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The only thing that bugs the heck out of me is the main fuel tank.
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The 47 can take a lot of punishment obviously for the sake of gameplay I don't think it should take a legendary amount lol
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all planes and gvs are modeled to my understanding to be what ive been told as "game fairness".
but imo there are a lot of both that are over/under modeled.
Asinine.
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The p-47 was able to take legendary amounts of fire without any serious damage,but if you did get a hit on it the usual reason for it to go down was a pilot kill or tailplane area destruction the wings we rent as vulnerable as one might think just from what i have read on the aircraft even a hit on the engine rarely brought the 47 down several lost whole cylinders and returned,as far as the game modeling its OK to me maybe a touch light on the on the amount of d it will accept.
50 cal take a ton to bring it down in the game.
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I've always thought the P-47's are just way to weak in AHII? You hear of these stories of Pilots from WWII still coming home even after German pilots used up every single round trying to shoot it down. Yet, in AHII, it seems it just takes the same number of rounds to set it on fire or take a wing off as any other plane in the game. Granted that even with a P-47, a few well placed rounds would take it out of the sky anyway, but it just seems a little weak than the stories we hear about it in war time.
What are everyone elses thoughts on the P-47s damage modeling? Does it seem too weak? or maybe some of you think it's too strong? or is it just right and I'm just paranoid? :noid :D
sounds likeyou were flying one, and got your but kicked.
:rofl, and most others in here. :noid
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I normally only find it to be weak when it's absorbing cannon rounds, stupid Spixteen dweebs.
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all planes and gvs are modeled to my understanding to be what ive been told as "game fairness".
but imo there are a lot of both that are over/under modeled.
You're off of your rocker.
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I normally only find it to be weak when it's absorbing cannon rounds, stupid Spixteen dweebs.
think about what you posted....every plane is weak at absorbing cannon rounds
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all planes and gvs are modeled to my understanding to be what ive been told as "game fairness".
but imo there are a lot of both that are over/under modeled.
I would stop listening to whomever told this to you.
They obviously have little to no understanding of this game and are filling you full of lies.
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P47 is a rugged bird in game.
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The 47 can take a lot of punishment obviously for the sake of gameplay I don't think it should take a legendary amount lol
And its Tail section
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sounds likeyou were flying one, and got your but kicked.
:rofl, and most others in here. :noid
I always get my butt kicked in the Jug, but I'm slowly learning how to fly it :D . I notice a difference in ability to take damage when it comes to puffy ack. In a spit, it takes just 1 hit and I'm going down in flames, P-51 I've taken up to 3 hits no problem, but the Jug I've managed to survive 7-8 hits without losing any part of my plane. It's just seems like I catch fire alot more when in a Jug than any other plane.
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It seems to me the ones that were supposedly able to take a lot of punishment in WWII- P47, F6F, F4U - are correspondingly tough here.
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The toughest single engine fighter in the game is the F4F.
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The toughest single engine fighter in the game is the F4F.
It's big brother is just as rugged.
The only thing that I see that is glaringly wrong with the Jug is how easy it catches on fire ... almost as bad as a Zeke.
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P47 is a rugged bird in game.
NOT WHen i'm flying it. :rofl :rofl
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The toughest single engine fighter in the game is the F4F.
Really? I've never been able to hit one.
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The toughest single engine fighter in the game is the F4F.
For it's size I'd have to agree. The FM-2 and F4F are the two toughest birds pound-for-pound in the game. I took a cannon round from a 262 once and only lost the outer half of the wing (and I smoked his engine when he overshot). Another time I came home missing an elevator, both flaps, half of one wing, engine smoked, fuel leaking, and pilot wounded and still made a successful landing.
Looking at other aircraft, the F4U takes oil hits at a ridiculous rate. Seems that every time you take a hit in the Hog it's either engine oil or main fuel.
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Sometimes you have to put it down as bad luck.
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Seems pretty strong to me. One of the only fighters than can absorb a tater without it being a game bug.
I have had 2 d25s, that I just hammered and thinking dead, fly away. So no, I think they are pretty rugged. I have a film of me nailing a d40 3 different times, and the last one with vigor, before it went down. That was with 50 calibers. Earlier today I took a p47 d40 out with a c-hog cannon plane and well, he crumpled.
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Without any sort of scientific data to back up my perception, I think the P-47 is the most rugged aircraft in the game, surpassing even the F4F family aircraft. The only thing that bugs me with the P-47N is its proclivity to take main fuel tank fire hits, when in fact, the fuel tank should be extremely difficult to hit, based on its placement in the fuselage. I can't count the times I've collided with someone in a Jug and flown home missing a few guns, or an aileron, while they lost a wing in the collision.
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Without any sort of scientific data to back up my perception, I think the P-47 is the most rugged aircraft in the game, surpassing even the F4F family aircraft. The only thing that bugs me with the P-47N is its proclivity to take main fuel tank fire hits, when in fact, the fuel tank should be extremely difficult to hit, based on its placement in the fuselage. I can't count the times I've collided with someone in a Jug and flown home missing a few guns, or an aileron, while they lost a wing in the collision.
The Wildcat, at least in my experience, is a far more rugged foe and takes a little bit more firepower to bring down. For me, P-47s are easy to bring down, solid .50 cal burst to the wing root and tail section will easily dispatch it. Wildcat on the other hand, that damn plane seems to be able to soak up my rounds when I hit it in those locations. When I shoot at Wildcats now, I primarily aim for the cockpit area as there I can be pretty much assured of a kill with a good solid burst.
ack-ack
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Hi all!
An example of the P-47's sturdiness can be found here:
http://www.fundacaorampa.com.br/causos_canario.htm (http://www.fundacaorampa.com.br/causos_canario.htm)
The page is in Portuguese, but the picture is there.
One of our Brazilian Jug pilots, doing ground attack, in Italy, hit a chimney, losing 1.28m (about 4.2 ft) of right wing and RTB. :x
His name, Canario(canary), quite adequate... :aok
Mutley
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Problem with talking about how tough an airplane is by referencing the ones that came home shot to hell is that you omit the ones that took a single hit in the wrong place and nobody ever knew what happened to it.
The OPs methodology is flawed.
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Having flown the P47 majority of last year, I find it safe to say that the Jug is the MOST rugged plane in the game. The drawback is the fragility of the main tank. I believe HTC fixed this issue, but you still need to have main tank selected while in flight becuase its better safe than sorry. Youll always want some backup fuel in your auxilliary tank to get back home with. Even after the recent updates, I still take damage in the main tanks, but I suppose that is because most people shoot at the fuselage of the aircraft rather than the wings.