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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Krusty on October 08, 2009, 09:26:21 PM
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So in all the P-47M threads over the years, I thought the general concensus was they almost never had the wing DTs, because they wanted more speed (which the wing racks took away)?
Also, the overload ammo was used only for ground strafing duties on P-47D models (the D being the first model capable of carrying more than 270 rpg). The Ms never did any ground attack work, and carrying around all that extra weight would have been counter-productive, no? Does that mean the M never carried this ammo loadout?
Shouldn't it only have 2 weapons options, one for 6 guns, one for 8? Rather than the 4 gun options?
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So in all the P-47M threads over the years, I thought the general concensus was they almost never had the wing DTs, because they wanted more speed (which the wing racks took away)?
Krusty, all of the 56th's P-47Ms were retrofitted with pylons and belly shackles for drop tanks. Initially, the fighters were delivered to the group without the wing pylons. After the surrender, most of the fighters had the pylons removed. With or without the wing pylons, all were capable of carrying belly tanks.
(http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery/56g/hv-w1.jpg)
(http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery/56g/hv-j4.jpg)
(http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery/56g/hv-x.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
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That's an interesting point about the centerline. I may have overlooked it in-game, but don't recall seeing the option for one.
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That's an interesting point about the centerline. I may have overlooked it in-game, but don't recall seeing the option for one.
Nope, the option for the belly tank is not included.. Would be nice to have though.
By the way, P-47Ms could carry ordnance. However, I can't find a single photo of an M with bombs aboard. I know the 56th's D models did haul bombs, but I have no evidence that the Ms ever did (in combat). That's probably why HTC elected not to offer that option.
My regards,
Widewing
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I can find anecdotes describing strafing missions that the 56th performed with the M, but no bombing missions. Regardless, the pylons were the same, so I'm sure they could carry them. Ultimately, as far as in-game goes, I'm glad they left off the ord, so the bomb-truckers suicide porking bases don't screw up the final ENY number of the aircraft.
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I can add the belly tanks. On the ordnance, I was torn. Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available. As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.
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I can add the belly tanks. On the ordnance, I was torn. Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available. As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.
That would be really nice of you to add the belly tank as an option. On a second, lesser note: since it does not carry ords, should it not be a fighter-only mode a/c; much as the Yaks & C.202/C.205 are set-up? :headscratch:
Thanks again for adding another a/c to the line-up! :salute
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That would be really nice of you to add the belly tank as an option. On a second, lesser note: since it does not carry ords, should it not be a fighter-only mode a/c; much as the Yaks & C.202/C.205 are set-up? :headscratch:
Thanks again for adding another a/c to the line-up! :salute
I noticed that too and was wondering the same thing. Was thinking it should be fighter only.
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I can add the belly tanks. On the ordnance, I was torn. Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available. As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.
My my.....that sounds like a good excuse for a perked ordnance system.
:D
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As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.
:rock
Let the nooblet suiciders ruin someone else's aircraft for a change...
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I can add the belly tanks. On the ordnance, I was torn. Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available. As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.
I'd leave the ord off as there is no source to suggest it carried it in wartime. For what it's worth I think your reasoning for leaving it off is good Pyro
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I'd leave the ord off as there is no source to suggest it carried it in wartime. For what it's worth I think your reasoning for leaving it off is good Pyro
Agreed.
- oldman
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I can add the belly tanks. On the ordnance, I was torn. Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available. As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.
I notice on the other 47s we only get the 75 gal centerline. Any option of adding the larger centerline, the 108 gal, the 150gal, or even the 200 gal centerline tanks? I mean, now that one of the recent updates increased the upper limit on weapons options (or whatever the term for it was)? Is that something we might see?
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I can add the belly tanks. On the ordnance, I was torn. Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available. As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.
I like that...it leaves the D models getting usage as the best bomb-trucks, considering N's horrific climb rate with ord.....not sure exactly what role N gets now, up until now, I used it as my fighter ride, but after last night, I think it's gonna be the M, eny aside
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I can add the belly tanks. On the ordnance, I was torn. Had this plane been introduced as a low level perk plane, I probably would have left the ordnance options available. As an unperked plane, I prefer to confine it to its historical role so as not to make it the definitive 47 in the MA.
Good reasoning IMO. But then . . .
On a second, lesser note: since it does not carry ords, should it not be a fighter-only mode a/c; much as the Yaks & C.202/C.205 are set-up? :headscratch:
. . . makes complete sense.
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That would be really nice of you to add the belly tank as an option. On a second, lesser note: since it does not carry ords, should it not be a fighter-only mode a/c; much as the Yaks & C.202/C.205 are set-up? :headscratch:
Thanks again for adding another a/c to the line-up! :salute
There are a number of fighters that fit in the "fighter only" category that are currently mixed ftr/attack. The Spit 5, 9 and 14, and the 109E-4, F-4, and K-4. And now.. add the P47M to that list. Unless I'm mistaken, all of those mentioned were designed to be air superiority fighters or interceptors. Obviously, when the skies were cleared those units who were bored were sent on strafing-attack missions.
Also, the TBM is a bomber only, when me thinks the direct fire rockets entitle it to be an "attack" plane as well. Ah well...
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Also, the TBM is a bomber only, when me thinks the direct fire rockets entitle it to be an "attack" plane as well. Ah well...
But, as it DOES carry guns, AND forward facing ones to boot, it CAN be an attacker.
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But, as it DOES carry guns, AND forward facing ones to boot, it CAN be an attacker.
I'm at work so I cant check its listing in the game, but what I think he is getting at is that the TBM should have the option for attack mode instead of straight bomber.
As far as the fighters, I believe any plane that cannot carry ords should not have the option for attack mode.
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I'm at work so I cant check its listing in the game, but what I think he is getting at is that the TBM should have the option for attack mode instead of straight bomber.
As far as the fighters, I believe any plane that cannot carry ords should not have the option for attack mode.
sadly, the hurri2d shoots holes in your opinion.
:bolt:
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sadly, the hurri2d shoots holes in your opinion.
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im sure exceptions can be made for the planes that are flying tanks