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Title: ide and sata?
Post by: Spikes on October 14, 2009, 03:09:38 PM
Hi all...I've got a 90gb IDE drive (the huge one) laying around and I'd like to put it in my gaming comp for a little added space (might use it as my sole Flight Simulator/HTC drive...would be nice). My current drive is a SATA and I was wondering if I would be able to run the two at the same time, if the IDE will even fit in my case (which might cause another problem).
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: Dragon on October 14, 2009, 03:27:30 PM
You should have no problem, as long as nothing is currently plugged into the IDE port.
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: Fulmar on October 14, 2009, 04:40:27 PM
Just make sure the Boot Sequence in the BIOS is set correctly.  Currently is could be set as this:
#1 IDE Drive
#2 SATA
#3 NIC
^^^  In the above, #1 isn't present so the computer goes to #2, so it boots fine with the SATA drive w/ Windows on it.  But if you put that IDE drive in w/o checking the sequence, it will try and boot first off the IDE drive since it is now present (but doesnt have Windows).  This will give you a boot error.
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: Spikes on October 14, 2009, 07:21:13 PM
Ahh yeah that slipped my mind...going to have to throw it in the cmop and try it...I only have a 250GB drive in there now and I'd like a little more leeway for all my games.
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: Easyscor on October 15, 2009, 12:05:21 AM
The SATA will be much faster and that's important for realtime loading of textures, which will result in noticeable stutter while playing AH with that old drive.

YMMV
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: Dragon on October 15, 2009, 07:32:50 AM
Textures can be preloaded and even if not, the IDE can transfer data faster than needed for smooth gameplay.  He's not putting Windblows on the drive, just games.
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: OOZ662 on October 15, 2009, 08:18:29 AM
Textures can be preloaded

Unfortunately, this is no longer true for Aces High.

I'm confused as to what you mean by "the huge one." An internal IDE hard drive will have the exact same physical dimensions as an internal SATA hard drive, unless you have a laptop hard drive in it for some reason. Makes me wonder if you've got a relic of a SCSI hard drive or something. :D
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: vatiAH on October 15, 2009, 03:10:33 PM
He might be talking about a " bigfoot" drive      they were 5 1/4 inch wide,  not the current 3.5 inch. I have not seen one in years.


Vati
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: Krusty on October 15, 2009, 04:43:14 PM
Use IDE for backup, use SATA for windows and all games.

Used to run off an IDE, upgraded to a SATA, and previous windows XP installs used to take an hour or so to copy files, but the first install with the SATA (Sata 1.5, not even 3.0GB!) and it took somewhere around 15 minutes or less to copy all files!

Windows, Windows swap file, windows temp files, game executables, skins, textures, loading files into memory, all of these are required for smooth gameplay. They will all be faster on the SATA, most cases. Especially if the IDE is an older drive (already has some miles on it).
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: Spikes on October 15, 2009, 05:46:23 PM
He might be talking about a " bigfoot" drive      they were 5 1/4 inch wide,  not the current 3.5 inch. I have not seen one in years.


Vati
Do believe that is what the one I've got is...might not even be worth trying to stick in the case somewhere. I'd just like a little extra space for no cost.
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 16, 2009, 12:28:40 AM
He might be talking about a " bigfoot" drive      they were 5 1/4 inch wide,  not the current 3.5 inch. I have not seen one in years.


Vati

I don't think there were bigfoots of 90gig capacity. He might have 90 megs instead if it's that ancient. :)
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: vatiAH on October 16, 2009, 09:16:25 AM
you might be right.  I'm pretty  sure the largest I ever saw was about 20 gig.
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: Dragon on October 16, 2009, 09:58:07 AM
Old and 5.25, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


If you have a space for one of these to go into it, it's not a hard drive.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo82/bzavasnik/ts.jpg)
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: Anodizer on October 16, 2009, 04:58:28 PM
Old and 5.25, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


If you have a space for one of these to go into it, it's not a hard drive.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo82/bzavasnik/ts.jpg)



Wrong....You never saw a Quantum Bigfoot Hard drive apparently.....  
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Quantum_Bigfoot_hard_drive-20090206-jhansonxi.jpg)

These drives are horrible though...  Probably one of the worst hard drives ever made....  
The largest they made was 20 gig.... 
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: Spikes on October 16, 2009, 05:38:27 PM
Got up to my dad's today and it was indeed a normal sized IDE drive...plugged it in and it worked fine!
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: Fulmar on October 16, 2009, 07:02:53 PM
I have an 8gb Big Foot lying around.  Last time I used it for a side linux project it was the single loudest drive I've ever heard.  The head unit was probably going bad on it too.
Title: Re: ide and sata?
Post by: Anodizer on October 16, 2009, 09:36:49 PM
I have an 8gb Big Foot lying around.  Last time I used it for a side linux project it was the single loudest drive I've ever heard.  The head unit was probably going bad on it too.

Yeah, got one for Christmas one year (an 8 gig maybe) so replace a 2 gig Maxtor.. 
When the Bigfoot gave up the ghost, I took the platters out made them into throwing stars...
They work much better as throwing stars.... :lol