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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: zoozoo on October 15, 2009, 07:56:37 PM
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im gonna try this is school tomorrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLKxv69GEVE&feature=popt00us05
im thinking the throw the candy in the face technique
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Bully Beatdown!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8_uhaByoBs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8_uhaByoBs)
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This...just...wow.
:rofl
Can't wait to see how many people are/were shot due to either of those.
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lol at the end of the video she says - RUN LIKE YOUVE NEVER RUN BEFORE
thats right because youre about to receive the beating of your life after pulling this crap
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSILex-2Uu8&feature=player_embedded
Of course if your a crossdresser who happens to be a martial arts expert the bullies are in for a bad time.
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LOL!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8ojeHySYSA
This was filmed on a mobile phone in May 2008, the yob giving all the grief is apparently known for being a chav scumbag in the area, the fella he's giving all the grief to is a father, ex British soldier with 2 tours in Iraq and holds 2 black belts. The yob was apparently unaware of this.
(warning, some bad language)
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That's sweet Swoop. Best thing I've seen/heard since one of my squaddies owned a tosser in the supermarket with a can of soup.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8ojeHySYSA
This was filmed on a mobile phone in May 2008, the yob giving all the grief is apparently known for being a chav scumbag in the area, the fella he's giving all the grief to is a father, ex British soldier with 2 tours in Iraq and holds 2 black belts. The yob was apparently unaware of this.
(warning, some bad language)
Don't mess with a mans rubbish bin.
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That's sweet Swoop. Best thing I've seen/heard since one of my squaddies owned a tosser in the supermarket with a can of soup.
:D :rofl
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the stuff they;re showing in the first vid is beyond stupid.
if you hit em, or do anything to throw em off guard, press your attack. otherwise, get ready for a trip to the hospital. :bolt:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSILex-2Uu8&feature=player_embedded
Of course if your a crossdresser who happens to be a martial arts expert the bullies are in for a bad time.
LMFAO, Dood id apparently F&*(ed up :aok :rofl
This is painful. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyyZ0Zb6b_o&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8ojeHySYSA
This was filmed on a mobile phone in May 2008, the yob giving all the grief is apparently known for being a chav scumbag in the area, the fella he's giving all the grief to is a father, ex British soldier with 2 tours in Iraq and holds 2 black belts. The yob was apparently unaware of this.
(warning, some bad language)
outstanding.
he used the double hand slap technique. Catch them either side of the head with just a light slapping of both hands, knocks anyone down harder than most punchers.
check it out, here is the first one that came up searching under 'palm slap'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03HQ603d4ks
incredibly usefull thing to learn and get up to a good speed with, all i need is a victim....er...i mean attacker.
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he used the double hand slap technique. Catch them either side of the head with just a light slapping of both hands, knocks anyone down harder than most punchers.
:rofl
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indy, transatlantic terminology crosswire, when i said punchers i meant bar brawlers like that muppet who was in the guys face, not pro sportsmen trained to punch. 'Punchers' not punches :cheers:
edit: i just watched the hit a few times over cant actualy decide if he slaps him or hits a lightning left jab on his chin, any ideas?
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indy, transatlantic terminology crosswire, when i said punchers i meant bar brawlers like that muppet who was in the guys face, not pro sportsmen trained to punch. 'Punchers' not punches :cheers:
I'm just laughing at your slapping technique :) Principally the "light" part. I don't think that's gonna work well... kinda confident about that actually. Head shots work because they either slam your brain into your skull, inducing a stupor or unconsciousness.. or, your jaw slides back, hits a specific nerve, and you black out. A light slap won't be accomplishing much beyond a) making the other person kinda mad and b) leaving your own head totally unprotected.
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lol at the end of the video she says - RUN LIKE YOUVE NEVER RUN BEFORE
thats right because youre about to receive the beating of your life after pulling this crap
That's actually the only good advice on this entire video.
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Indy! doh that is very true, is it too late for me to substitute 'light' for 'freakin' whack 'em'? (although is it not more a matter of following through the target more than power?)
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Indy! doh that is very true, is it too late for me to substitute 'light' for 'freakin' whack 'em'? (although is it not more a matter of following through the target more than power?)
both! For a little kid though, (pure opinion here) grappling is probably better to teach them at first, then cross-train later. Much, much easier to hit somebody hard when they're flat on their back, even if you don't really know how
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Understood, possibly not teaching them to hit them on the floor till they get to 16?
Suggestion originaly in relation to the thug vs ex army clip, If the kids want to try it in schools i take no responsibility as of this notivce.
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doing those kind of things would make one have even more of a chance to be bullied... :lol
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nah......bullies are generally cowards.
show some resistance, and they'll push harder, 'cause they need to save face.
beat the poop outta them one time, and they'll never bother ya again. they'll move to an easier target.
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This is how you deal with them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4pHW2zZbxI
ack-ack
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Take it from someone who experienced the "campus bullies" once...(just once)...3 ring binder held in both hands (science or history text book is better)...the "spine" of the book (side with the rings and steel bar) facing up...angled shot to the sternum followed very quickly by a 2 handed uppercut motion to the lower jaw with spine of the book and bully 1 goes down...using the momentum you have step on the top of bully number 2's foot and using an angled 1 handed arcing swing with the spine side and hit bully number 2 in the side of his head...if he manages to block it, step into him and with your free hand push him in the chest while continuing to step on his foot...he has no choice but to step back with his free foot...hit him in the groin.
If there are more than 2 bullies...run as fast as you can...then take some mixed martial arts that can teach you self defense.
Or have the toughest S.O.B. in school as your best bud... :D
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Always worked for me that I'm larger than everyone else. I never really hurt any body, but you don't get picked on either.
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I find it very effective just to put a haymaker right into the windpipe.
If you land it square its a devistating blow. Usually puts them down in 1 punch.
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edit: i just watched the hit a few times over cant actualy decide if he slaps him or hits a lightning left jab on his chin, any ideas?
Definitely the slap.... you can see that is what he is going for from the start..... he obviously doesn't want to hurt him..just teach him a lesson.
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zoo! this is what ya gotta do! :lol
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7InIZNv5Vg&feature=related/url]
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edit: i just watched the hit a few times over cant actualy decide if he slaps him or hits a lightning left jab on his chin, any ideas?
He tries the technique at least twice, maybe three times. It is the last one that floors the guy. If you look at his stance, he has a ready open hand posture and he's waiting to time his technique. Because of the angle of the strike, he doesn't really have to hit him with significant force or follow-through to deal a stunning but non-injurious blow. The quick unexpected nature and the twist of the head is what makes it a good technique if you don't want to really hurt or kill someone. The "Dad" knows exactly what he's doing, and he repeats the technique until it works, and it freaks the yob out so he runs like the coward bully most yobs like him really are.
I've met a few bullies like that, but luckily I only had to drop one of them and got away unscathed. One other kid pulled a pocketknife on me, but I figured I'd get busted if I took a tire iron to his head so he walked away feeling like a big man.
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For what it's worth, Akido is really good for self defense. The centering exercises are great for balance under pressure and the techniques don't rely on a strength or agility advantage over the opponent.
In one demo of an Akido exercise, I ended up holding my roommate off the ground with a straight extended arm. That was approx 140 lbs held straight out at arms length, him hanging on my wrist and lifting his feet off the floor for 10 seconds. It was a damn effective exercise on focusing your strength, but at a cost... I pulled almost every muscle in my body, right arm, and left side of my neck doing that, but didn't feel a thing until the next day. Ouch.
The USAF Academy self defense instructor taught primarily from Akido techniques, with a hefty dose of common sense mixed in with a touch of judo and boxing. Good stuff, haven't had to use it fortunately. Probably not much good in combat either, just supposed to help avoid beatings.
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Make poverty history. Cheaper drugs now.
Speaking of Shameless, that video looks like it's filmed on location! Are there lots of buildings like that in the UK or is that the actual spot that Shameless is filmed?
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Standard council terraces there, probably within 20 miles of the shameless area but i could not tell you for sure.
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lol at the end of the video she says - RUN LIKE YOUVE NEVER RUN BEFORE
thats right because youre about to receive the beating of your life after pulling this crap
My thoughts exactly
Tips for dealing with a bully.
When a fight is eminent
Strike first, strike fast, strike hard.
And strike to devastate
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8ojeHySYSA
This was filmed on a mobile phone in May 2008, the yob giving all the grief is apparently known for being a chav scumbag in the area, the fella he's giving all the grief to is a father, ex British soldier with 2 tours in Iraq and holds 2 black belts. The yob was apparently unaware of this.
(warning, some bad language)
Astounding self control letting it go on for as long as he did
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8ojeHySYSA
This was filmed on a mobile phone in May 2008, the yob giving all the grief is apparently known for being a chav scumbag in the area, the fella he's giving all the grief to is a father, ex British soldier with 2 tours in Iraq and holds 2 black belts. The yob was apparently unaware of this.
(warning, some bad language)
thought it was kinda funny, that every time the dude tried to shove him, that all he did, was push himself back.
then he gets embarrassed. :devil
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zoo! this is what ya gotta do! :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7InIZNv5Vg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7InIZNv5Vg&feature=related)
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Bullies ehh not sure here never was bullied. I'd probably use my mouth as a weapon if your actually getting bullied. Ask them if their daddy didnt love them and offer a hug.
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LOL... was that video meant as serious advice on how to dodge a bully-beating?
How about just adding that when you grab their hair to pull them down, raise up your knee to meet their face?
That ought to give you ample running time.
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I would suggest learning Hapkido to any other kind of martial art. My oldest daughter spent 6 years in it and I am sure no one will touch her without her ok.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M64skAfLIZc
Just make sure you learn pure Hapkido not some watered down version. She didn't learn any flare or artsy stuff pure waste your opponent and make sure they don't get back up anytime soon.
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For what it's worth, Akido is really good for self defense. The centering exercises are great for balance under pressure and the techniques don't rely on a strength or agility advantage over the opponent.
Necro-thread time!
The problem with Aikido is... the people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPdnizRcPls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkUtGx75B-E
If whatever martial art you're doing doesn't have full speed, full resistance sparring, it's just not worth doing. Most Aikido places dispense with the common sense, and resort to man-dancing to get people in the door and pay the rent.
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haha, last time someone talked to me like that i was sittin in police office and the kid was in the emergency room
ps... NEVER hit another man in the GROIN! no no no for a man fight
-BigBOBCH
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If its a fight, fight to win. groin as good as place as any to get the job done.
To an above poster: I took hapkido for several years and i'm sorry to say that I found it quite lacking in a lot of areas. Reality being one of them.
Hapkido is a mix of karate and judo. The problem I found with hapkido was that it focuses quite a bit on kicks and other forms of attack that mess your balance and in a fight, especially when you're in true danger, thats something that you dont want to happen. That is why if you go to your kid's practices and watch the black belts or brown belts you'll notice they fight keeping their distance and its only when they end up grappling that they get close.
when was the last time a thug or bully or whatever kept his distance when attacking you? never. they come at you close and fast. Hapkido fails in real life application imo.
I moved to Judo (which is a sister art to Aikido) and man that is one hell of a good self defense art. its always up close, very fast and you utterly dominate the other salamander. Requires minimal strength (when learning at 17 I had 8 year olds that were higher belts flipping and beating the crap out of me in locks.. :O ).
If your kid can take both judo and hapkido at the same time she'll be much better prepared. kicks and punches only serve you if the opponent sticks to the same...and bullies/thugs usually dont. hapkido's close-in techniques are borrowed from judo but pure judo has a hell of a lot more and better ones.
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"If a bullys chasing you, and you've got a magazine..." flip to the girls and give it to him DUH!!!! :D
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there is no one, end all be all, Martial arts, except maybe "jute kune do"
which uses "no way, as way"
you learn one Martial art and you become boxed in.
" Be like water..." being able to adapt to any situation, Styles are constricting.
and "belts" are for holing up pants.
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There is one big problem with thier last suggestion to run, what about the fat kids that are being bullied? They are not gonna get far.
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There is one big problem with thier last suggestion to run, what about the fat kids that are being bullied? They are not gonna get far.
They could of course curl up in a ball and bounce away.
Then even if the bully catches him he'll be laughing too hard to do any real damage ;)
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I'm currently in TaeKwonDo and it definitely has it's advantages. I should point out I didn't solely take this class as self-defense, it's through my university so it was also an opportunity to get involved with a group and do some physical activity. To advance belts you have to demonstrate understanding of general techniques, a form, and self defense techniques. The self defense techniques are good except we really practice them at about 3/4 speed so judges can see what's going on, and of course it is non-contact. However mixing that with contact sparring that begins a few belts in, you will speed up your body and your moves. Higher belts practice self-defense with gun or knife wielding attackers. I'll feel better about handling myself if I end up in a conflict but I'm not sure about the gun moves, you would have to be very very confident that you're faster than the bad guy, and he's got to be real close, which would be rather stupid of him. Of course I've got the sidearm I try to carry with me as much as I can but I'd rather have as many tools at my disposal (including my body) to keep myself and those around me safe.
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If its a fight, fight to win. groin as good as place as any to get the job done.
To an above poster: I took hapkido for several years and i'm sorry to say that I found it quite lacking in a lot of areas. Reality being one of them.
Hapkido is a mix of karate and judo. The problem I found with hapkido was that it focuses quite a bit on kicks and other forms of attack that mess your balance and in a fight, especially when you're in true danger, thats something that you dont want to happen. That is why if you go to your kid's practices and watch the black belts or brown belts you'll notice they fight keeping their distance and its only when they end up grappling that they get close.
You either had a bad teacher or took a watered down Hapkido type class. Pure Hapkido has very little to do with kicks. It has more to do with pressure points, leverage, and disabling the bad guy ASAP! I took TaeKwonDO and it was a very showy kind of martial art but was very impressed with Hapkido. One thing I never liked about grappling type arts is in a fight it's rarely 1v1. While you have one guy tied up on the floor you have 2 other stomping your head!
DuHasst
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I always thought Maui Thai was a cool martial art. Mostly due to Tony Jaa and his oar sum ness.
"WHERE IS MY ELEPHANT?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsJ5s6CKmog
just....ouch...
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3/4 speed? That would fail you when I was 'studying.' My 'sensai' wanted to hear the cuff of your gi snap with every motion. Speed was everything and the first technique involved eight different hits and you had three seconds to execute them or you failed.
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Seems like in today's world, the best way to fight a bully is with a shotgun, since he'll invariably have either a knife or a pistol.
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3/4 speed? That would fail you when I was 'studying.' My 'sensai' wanted to hear the cuff of your gi snap with every motion. Speed was everything and the first technique involved eight different hits and you had three seconds to execute them or you failed.
Yeah, you have to remember this is a credit course and it has to be reasonably do-able by most people. Certain things just aren't for certain people but you can't really give them a bad grade if they put good effort into it. I'm involved in a "sunday club" which is voluntary and doesn't count towards the class where we go faster and harder than the in class portion.
**I need to modify this before people start shouting out stuff about still failing if you didn't know how do calculus, they can't pass you for effort in that, why should they do it other places! Well I guess I can't say too much other than this class isn't as serious as curriculum classes. Some students may not promote to higher belts because they aren't very good at the techniques and it will effect their grade. However if they are trying, showing up for class, giving it effort, you can't fail them for physical shortcomings.**
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You either had a bad teacher or took a watered down Hapkido type class. Pure Hapkido has very little to do with kicks. It has more to do with pressure points, leverage, and disabling the bad guy ASAP! I took TaeKwonDO and it was a very showy kind of martial art but was very impressed with Hapkido. One thing I never liked about grappling type arts is in a fight it's rarely 1v1. While you have one guy tied up on the floor you have 2 other stomping your head!
DuHasst
he was a japanese dude high level black belt (4th dan i think....was long ago). The pressure points, leverage and disablng asap is all from judo. when i switched to judo i had to learn the same stuff but a lot more precise and effecient versions of them. kicks and punches in judo usually are used to feint and make the other guy move/lose balance /make a move so you can use that move against him. its real fun too :)
its true theres no 'best ' martial art.. all im saying is i found judo a heck of a lot more applicable to a modern situation than others which still base their forms and purpose as if you were fighting someone attacking you with a long blade in formal combat or tournament.
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I found the best martial art is not fighting at all. I went through studying for years and finally the injuries were coming more frequent and taking longer to heal. Its similar to AH in a lot of ways really... stick to what you know well and play to your strengths and 'his' weaknesses. Always follow through once you start an attack and if you use a high level technique make sure no one sees it. :D
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For what it's worth, Akido is really good for self defense. The centering exercises are great for balance under pressure and the techniques don't rely on a strength or agility advantage over the opponent.
In one demo of an Akido exercise, I ended up holding my roommate off the ground with a straight extended arm. That was approx 140 lbs held straight out at arms length, him hanging on my wrist and lifting his feet off the floor for 10 seconds. It was a damn effective exercise on focusing your strength, but at a cost... I pulled almost every muscle in my body, right arm, and left side of my neck doing that, but didn't feel a thing until the next day. Ouch.
The USAF Academy self defense instructor taught primarily from Akido techniques, with a hefty dose of common sense mixed in with a touch of judo and boxing. Good stuff, haven't had to use it fortunately. Probably not much good in combat either, just supposed to help avoid beatings.
I did a variant of Aikido for over 13 years and i would have to agree. It is a style though that requires one to stick with it for awhile before it becomes effective in real life. You learn alot of moves pretty quick but it needs repetition (muscle learning directly translated. dunno what you call it) like most martial arts. I usually advice people who needs to learn self defence to take Krav Maga lessons as it is more effective with less training. Its not as interesting in the long run though.
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I did 11 years of Jiu Jitsu, bok fu, and Taekwondo, had black belt but took to much time needed to put into it
-BigBOBCH
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There is one big problem with thier last suggestion to run, what about the fat kids that are being bullied? They are not gonna get far.
Send the butter ball to Judo or Brazilian Jiu Jitsu until he's old enough for proper MMA classes.
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holy necromonger batman!
thought this thread died.
anyway.....very simple.
punch him in the nose......the nose breaks easily.....will cause tearing, and give you enough head start.
kick him in the nads.....another good head start.
there is no such thing as a fight where you don't get hurt, so it's best to eff him up a little, and get the hell outta dodge.
more than likely, he'll not bother ya again.
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"Of course if your a crossdresser who happens to be a martial arts expert the bullies are in for a bad time."
Too right. Too many years ago, I walked round the corner of the pub just in time to see a rather large fellow slam backwards up against the wall and then slide unconscious to the deck. Seems he and a few companions had taken a dislike to the music played by Brian the resident DJ, who had dressed in drag that night for a giggle. Bad move. Brian was the UK ABA light-middleweight boxing champion at the time and he clobbered all four of the silly sods. I'd just seen the last of them go down.
The vid reminds me a bit of 'Duck and Cover': a morale-booster for the kids but rather ineffectual in reality.
:cool:
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"Of course if your a crossdresser who happens to be a martial arts expert the bullies are in for a bad time."
Too right. Too many years ago, I walked round the corner of the pub just in time to see a rather large fellow slam backwards up against the wall and then slide unconscious to the deck. Seems he and a few companions had taken a dislike to the music played by Brian the resident DJ, who had dressed in drag that night for a giggle. Bad move. Brian was the UK ABA light-middleweight boxing champion at the time and he clobbered all four of the silly sods. I'd just seen the last of them go down.
The vid reminds me a bit of 'Duck and Cover': a morale-booster for the kids but rather ineffectual in reality.
:cool:
Have you seen the footage I think they were referring to? There's a cut-down version of it in this parody video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slz9MRK0s3o#t=1m22s). There's a link to the original in the sidebar somewhere. Hilarious stuff.
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11 yr Olds heck they just pull out there Mac-10's and pop a cap in your Arse lol
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there is no one, end all be all, Martial arts, except maybe "jute kune do"
which uses "no way, as way"
you learn one Martial art and you become boxed in.
" Be like water..." being able to adapt to any situation, Styles are constricting.
and "belts" are for holing up pants.
I couldn't agree more Ink,well except the Jeet Kune Do part,even Lee admitted it wasnt perfect.Also whoever said Hapkido was kinda Karate and Judo has no idea what they are talking about,Hapkito is a Korean martial art that if simalar to anything is closest to Aikijitsu or as now known by Aikido.
I've had some experence with martial arts,TKD,Aikijitsu,wrestling and quite abit of boxing.As Ink has said there is no 1 type thats best and all have strengths and weaknesses.Your best weapon is your brain,us it to defuze the situation and walk away,if that fails learn the 4 different fighting lengths,up close as in grappling,arms length as in boxing,a step away as in the many different kicking styles and the last 1 running distance to avoide the whole problem to begin with.
Batty,I looked closely several time at the vid,the man was trained and hit him with a left hand punch.If you look close he uses a southpaw stance and I'd expect him to use his left leg to kick with.His right hand slap was used to control the idiots head to deliver to punch that put him down.
BTW,a punch to the jaw doesnt hit a "certain nerve" what it does is cause the brain to move inside the skull,this causes a "short circuit" of the brain stem which causes you to loose control of your lower extremities and fall down.Your not really "knocked out" your brain simply cant send the signals to control your legs,in a true knock out you would have a concussion and likely some brain damage.
Anyone who's watched some boxing has heard"he's out on his feet"the boxer isnt unconseses,his brain stem is shorting out so to speak and he cant control his legs.
And yes I've experenced this as I've been told I lead with my head....LOL... I tried to beat their hands up with my forehead.
Only once was I truely knocked out and that was in a hockey game,not a fight,but I've hit the canvas more times that I care to mention.
:salute
PS: wasnt trying to start anything Ink,as you've oviously read Mr.Lee's book,so you know that he freely admitted that it wasnt the best as there's no such thing.I dont like the"be like water" thats much deeper than most realize.....
YMMV.
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I couldn't agree more Ink,well except the Jeet Kune Do part,even Lee admitted it wasnt perfect.Also whoever said Hapkido was kinda Karate and Judo has no idea what they are talking about,Hapkito is a Korean martial art that if simalar to anything is closest to Aikijitsu or as now known by Aikido.
I've had some experence with martial arts,TKD,Aikijitsu,wrestling and quite abit of boxing.As Ink has said there is no 1 type thats best and all have strengths and weaknesses.Your best weapon is your brain,us it to defuze the situation and walk away,if that fails learn the 4 different fighting lengths,up close as in grappling,arms length as in boxing,a step away as in the many different kicking styles and the last 1 running distance to avoide the whole problem to begin with.
Batty,I looked closely several time at the vid,the man was trained and hit him with a left hand punch.If you look close he uses a southpaw stance and I'd expect him to use his left leg to kick with.His right hand slap was used to control the idiots head to deliver to punch that put him down.
BTW,a punch to the jaw doesnt hit a "certain nerve" what it does is cause the brain to move inside the skull,this causes a "short circuit" of the brain stem which causes you to loose control of your lower extremities and fall down.Your not really "knocked out" your brain simply cant send the signals to control your legs,in a true knock out you would have a concussion and likely some brain damage.
Anyone who's watched some boxing has heard"he's out on his feet"the boxer isnt unconseses,his brain stem is shorting out so to speak and he cant control his legs.
And yes I've experenced this as I've been told I lead with my head....LOL... I tried to beat their hands up with my forehead.
Only once was I truely knocked out and that was in a hockey game,not a fight,but I've hit the canvas more times that I care to mention.
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PS: wasnt trying to start anything Ink,as you've oviously read Mr.Lee's book,so you know that he freely admitted that it wasnt the best as there's no such thing.I dont like the"be like water" thats much deeper than most realize.....
YMMV.
If you think about it, he did not want to put a name to it, that is when it became not "perfect".
I have read his book a "few" times. hehe
<S> Bruce is and always will be one of the greatest men to ever walk on this planet! IMO
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If you think about it, he did not want to put a name to it, that is when it became not "perfect".
I have read his book a "few" times. hehe
<S> Bruce is and always will be one of the greatest men to ever walk on this planet! IMO
I totally agree Ink!!
Oh and I meant to say I do like,not I dont like the" be like water ". My old master was lucky enough to Know Mr Lee and we often talk about him and others over a few brown pops and pool.
Aslo Ink,my Master had a "real" sword a present given to him when he acquired his 8th Dan.
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I totally agree Ink!!
Oh and I meant to say I do like,not I dont like the" be like water ". My old master was lucky enough to Know Mr Lee and we often talk about him and others over a few brown pops and pool.
Aslo Ink,my Master had a "real" sword a present given to him when he acquired his 8th Dan.
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hehe I thought when you said "you did not like" you mistyped it. hehe
I would love to have met Bruce, in the movie "the dragon" with Jason Scott Lee, when he flips out and smashes his closet door, and says" I just want to be a hero..." (something like that) it messes with me big time, He was my Hero, hell, he still is and now im 40 :lol
when I was younger I loved watching "Enter the Dragon" hell all of his movies, but in enter the Dragon he puts a lot of his philosophies into it, what a great movie!!
I have read and watched so much about the guy, there is so much bull crap out there about him.
I personally have never taken any "martial Arts" I grew up on the streets and was fighting since I was very young, once I hit 13, I started to get into awesome shape at 15 I was built just like him, except I was white LOL, I tried to emulate his moves and way, I think the first time I read his book I was 11 or 12.
I wish more people understood him, I actually have a friend who thinks he was not good and was just an "actor" :rofl he was so much more than that.
Have you read "The book of five rings"? (if not get it, its great!!!!) another guy who was great, I personally think Bruce read that book and adopted many of Musashi's way's. now that is a guy who understood how to dismantle people :lol
I very much love the samurai and there swords, there dedication, there love of life. I have a very beautiful (modern made) Katana folded between 8 to 10 times, clay used in the tempering extremely beautiful and deadly, scary sharp.
here is a peace of history, the Japanese would use cadavers, or convicted criminals to test there swords on, they would cut through the bodies and then scribe on the Tang how many it went through. :eek:
I paid around 1,300$ for my sword but you can get one that is "real" with the Tang scribed with the "body count" I saw one for sale at 14,000 lol wish I was Rich!!!
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I wish more people understood him, I actually have a friend who thinks he was not good and was just an "actor" :rofl he was so much more than that.
Have you read "The book of five rings"? (if not get it, its great!!!!) another guy who was great, I personally think Bruce read that book and adopted many of Musashi's way's. now that is a guy who understood how to dismantle people :lol
Sorry, but his abilities as a fighter have been massively over-hyped.
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=83247&highlight=bruce
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69410
Here's one of my favorite posts in the threads...
Joe Lewis has earned my eternal respect for being the one man who trained under Bruce with big enough balls to flat out tell people, "Bruce was not a fighter."
...and, irony of ironies, the statement has earned him nothing but scorn in the martial arts community.
--Joe
This is really a gem too.
We don't dispute that Bruce had an impact on the Martial Arts. What we're disputing are the myths and BS about him being virtually superhuman, or his superior fighting ability off-screen. Not to mention his fortune cookie philosophy blended with crap Jigoro Kano figured out 60+ years earlier.
and the end-all, be-all of Martial Arts does exist. It's simply called "MMA". You take all the best stuff from arts that are proven to be effective, like Judo, classic boxing, muay thai, sambo, jiu jitsu, greco-roman wrestling, and blend it all together until you can take the fight to where you want it, and seriously maim somebody. There's a reason why military combatives have switched to MMA curriculum with weapons mixed in, and a heavy, heavy emphasis on grappling.
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I always wanted to learn Muay Thai in order to deal with the arms-length situations. I did do Capoeira for about a year, and found that it was easy enough to apply to actual contact, though at age 11 I wasn't in good enough shape to do anything that was truly beautiful to watch. I did wrestling for a while, so my experience with that and some basic grappling has the real close in stuff fairly well covered. Unfortunately, the most experience I have with boxing is either of the Wii variety or from the time I went to a friend's karate dojo and popped him one in his face as he stepped in for a throw (You would think that a kid who had been playing video games from age 5 and karate from age 6 would've had better reflexes. :devil). Even so, I have great respect for those out there who have actually learned this stuff; seeing this magic in action makes me want to do something about these spaghetti arms of mine.
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11 yr Olds heck they just pull out there Mac-10's and pop a cap in your Arse lol
Stop, drop, and roll. or something like that. :D
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<S> Bruce is and always will be one of the greatest men to ever walk on this planet! IMO
Be like water my friend! :aok
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Indy,
While I dont exactly agree with you I get the point,MMA is as close to the best you can get,was sorta the basis of my 4 distance fighting.Actually it's 3 but 4 is added for humour and to express the fact that there's always a way"not" to fight.I wont go into what I've done,trained in etc. as I've stated as much as I do already.
But not counting the last 15 years I've trained most of my life.My father was a golden glover in 2 weight and would have like to see me follow him,except for me leading with my head,I sorta tried to do as he wished.
Ink,
There so much hype,falsehoods and the like about Mr.Lee it's not surprizing when I hear or read things as in Indy's post. I will say this,my Master knows several of the Hollywood martial arts stars and not all are equal,in fact some are out right liars.All I know is he had great respect for only 3 of them and Mr Lee was first on that list.
Most people take for granted that they can join a school of arts,so many out there,so many styles.We used to call TWD, takeurdough and had names for others,all this while training and teaching.Belts,well they are the money makers and the more kinds you have to more... I should stop b4 I get myself in trouble...
Safe to say Indy has a point,MMA is close to the "all round art" as you get.I highly recommend anyone wanting to learn look into a "good" school that teaches it.
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Sorry, but his abilities as a fighter have been massively over-hyped...
sorry but you are misinformed, just cuz something is on the net don't make it truth,and someone's opinion don't change the fact's.
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*note to self*
Remember that when morfiend mentions all that ninja stuff he ain't kidding... so mind your p's & q's.
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I think the only reason Bruce Lee is such a legend is because he died young. Just like John lennon, JFK and Jesus. I'm not saying he was not a great man, but if he was still alive now he wouldnt be the legend he is.
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yeah, inspiring generations of people I guess wasn't enough! :rolleyes:
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*note to self*
Remember that when morfiend mentions all that ninja stuff he ain't kidding... so mind your p's & q's.
Mom,I rarely if ever talk about it! Also I'm old and wore out so not much of a threat... :old:
:salute
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yeah, inspiring generations of people I guess wasn't enough! :rolleyes:
Read what i said again and stop with the knee jerk defence mechanism, I am agreeing he was a great man, just that his legend status would have faded if he had not died right at the high point. I speak the truth, it's basic human psychology.
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sorry but you are misinformed, just cuz something is on the net don't make it truth,and someone's opinion don't change the fact's.
If Jeet Kune Do were the bomb, people wouldn't be doing everything else to prepare for real fights. The only gym that's produced fighters trains "Jeet Kune Do Concepts". Catch is, it's just MMA with some eastern philosophy thrown in. Bruce was a great performance artist, but there's no evidence he was a good fighter. That's like thinking Jet Li would maim people, when the reality is that Wu Shu is just a performance art.
and that site's mission statement is to debunk fraudulent claims in martial arts. It's a gold mine for finding out what works and what doesn't from people that actually do it for a living, instructors, olympic champs, military, amatuer & pro fighters, etc, etc. It's the only forum on the internet that literally results in people getting beat up.
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Read what i said again and stop with the knee jerk defence mechanism, I am agreeing he was a great man, just that his legend status would have faded if he had not died right at the high point. I speak the truth, it's basic human psychology.
:rofl Hulk get upset. You wont like Hulk when hes angry! (http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq351/vangie_abayata123/hulk.gif)
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:rofl
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If Jeet Kune Do were the bomb, people wouldn't be doing everything else to prepare for real fights. The only gym that's produced fighters trains "Jeet Kune Do Concepts". Catch is, it's just MMA with some eastern philosophy thrown in. Bruce was a great performance artist, but there's no evidence he was a good fighter. That's like thinking Jet Li would maim people, when the reality is that Wu Shu is just a performance art.
and that site's mission statement is to debunk fraudulent claims in martial arts. It's a gold mine for finding out what works and what doesn't from people that actually do it for a living, instructors, olympic champs, military, amatuer & pro fighters, etc, etc. It's the only forum on the internet that literally results in people getting beat up.
:rolleyes: