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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AKHog on October 16, 2009, 10:23:50 AM
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Balloon Boy: Real or Hoax?
Discuss.
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I'm leaning towards reality show wanna-be's
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"Now that we got the boy out of the way, we can clearly see from the 2 hours of filming that my balloon is more than capable of carrying data equiptment into the heart of a storm."
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I'm leaning towards I'm already sick of hearing about it.
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I'm leaning toward this being an attention hoaring hoax. I watched some of their live
interview on CNN last night and in no time at all it was clear as day that the family as
whole are very odd and strange. In other words they are absolutely wacked. Odd
that the father did all the talking too. Either the kids could not due to dad saying he'd
beat the snot out of them if they did or they're incapable of answering because a
complete lack of social skills (or IQ) .
So. Got up, made breakfast and turned on the tv this am. What do I see? More live
interviews with them! I'm pretty sure this was for the attention.
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Like Westy said, this guy and his family are simply crazy. This is some weird hoax they must have created for attention.
Live onCNN:
Dad, "Why didn't you come out"
Kid, "You guys said... we did this for the show"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI6UONWCq7A
Supposed home video of the balloon being released:
Dad is a bad actor too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJm1RsXRw0s
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Like Westy said, this guy and his family are simply crazy. This is some weird hoax they must have created for attention.
Live onCNN:
Dad, "Why didn't you come out"
Kid, "You guys said... we did this for the show"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI6UONWCq7A
Anyone else here what happens at the 44 second mark in that video...hehe.
Hmm...attention starved? Oh, yeah. This is the same guy that was on wife swap...twice.
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As soon as the boy was found unharmed i thought it was a load of bollocks even before the foul up on CNN, as did grizz before me and others in the original thread. Clearly the are not crazy but they are essentialy media prostitutes and have cost alot of money to someone.
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I'm leaning towards reality show wanna-be's
Actually they were already in one. The wife swapping one.
Imagine how many rescuers lives they put in jeopardy with their fame game? I hope they end up in prison.
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Actually they were already in one.
You beat me to it. This was a hoax to get attention. They should be rewarded with starring roles in a new reality show "Lockup 24/7".
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I'm leaning towards I'm already sick of hearing about it.
I'm already there, here have a beer bro.
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I'm leaning towards I'm already sick of hearing about it.
+1 :aok
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You hear the farting noise at :43? lol
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I'm leaning towards reality show wanna-be's
They were on a reality show awhile back.. trading spouses, maybe they miss the limelight, know one will ever know, at least not yet.. As far as watching that video of it lifting off, now that looked alittle phony, they way it was moving it just looked empty to me, if there was the boy inside the basket it would not of been moving like it was empty.
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Sheriff says, not hoax.
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Sheriff said this morning the investigation isn't over, the Sheriff was going to let the family rest today and go back tomarrow and ask more questions as he reported this morning.
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My prediction is that even if there is no hoax that this family life they have will be scrutinized to death until every lunatic in the country is satisfied that their happiness (if they have any) has been destroyed and every dollar they have is long gone.
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HOAX!! But let them have there 15 mins. of fame. I'm not watching.
~CRAZY~
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Nope. This kind of crap needs to be squished as aggressively as possible. It would make people think twice before they pull this kind of stunt again. As far as the boy "hiding" for 2-3 hours I can attest to young children doing silly things at times. When my brother got hit by a car I hid under my bed and wouldn't come out because I thought it was my fault, was around 3 or 4 at the time.
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You hear the farting noise at :43? lol
One of my kid farts when he's nervous. Maybe it's the same deal. :lol
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Must be really easy to tell when they are lying then. :rofl
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I think it was a hoax all the way, but I doubt they'll ever be able to prove it. Here's the considerations...
1. He recently submitted a proposal to someone (TLC?) for a reality show, and was turned down.
2. They were videotaping when the balloon lifted off, and the balloon doesn't appear to be "loaded", ie. nothing appears to be in the box on the bottom. The adult appears to be in the video too.
3. The guy is "experienced" in doing stuff like storm chasing, and he should have darn well known that the balloon probably couldn't lift a 30+ lb child and fly off like it did.
As for the sibling's story that he saw the boy crawl into the box before it was released, it has been proven over and over that an adult can quite easily create a reality for a child by simply making assertions. The child's mind fills in the gaps until the asserted events "feel" like real memories. Even adults can be convinced to "remember" things that never happened.
My bet - even if it wasn't planned as a set-up from the beginning, once the thing lifted off the father played it for all it was worth. The balloon doesn't appear to have that much lifting capability and the thing did not appear to be loaded down with any weight at all in the video clip I saw. The father let the drama unfold until they found the kid, and even "experts" had to assume the worst because by the time any third-party had cameras on the balloon, the empty state of the balloon wouldn't mean anything because the kid could have fallen out earlier.
So I say hoax, with it being nearly impossible to prove and with a big question of when it switched to being a hoax. It could have been a setup from the beginning, or the Dad could have simply let events unfold even as he knew there was no way the kid could have been inside when it lifted off.
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Attention craving hoax IMO. Pretty bad they would use their children as props for it.
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By calculation the balloon could feasibly lift about 82 lbs and the boy weighs just 37 lbs so it is plausible even at the point at which the balloon was seen to have a sections sagging.
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http://www.markeavacadoch.com/story/colorado-sheriff-balloon-boy-case-a-hoax-2009-10-18 (http://www.markeavacadoch.com/story/colorado-sheriff-balloon-boy-case-a-hoax-2009-10-18)
Profanity filter messing up the link but search news on balloon boy, sheriff's office is calling it a hoax now.
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they are going to be charged for it.
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I looked at the vid of the balloon, (I am write tech LTA stuff for money) Helium only lifts about 44 lb per 100 cubic feet. that thing didn't have close to a thousand cubes in it (looks close to 600-750) it had trouble lifting its self. not a chance it could lift more than 33 lb gross weight and the Mylar probably weighed in at 12 to 15 lb....
Regards,
Kevin
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By calculation the balloon could feasibly lift about 82 lbs and the boy weighs just 37 lbs so it is plausible even at the point at which the balloon was seen to have a sections sagging.
By what calculation?
I am more in agreement with gunnss. I don't know much about the math but just based on experience and what I've seen in the past there is no way this balloon could lift more than a few pounds.
I will say though that by the time the news helos were filming, it was impossible to really tell its size. Only when it 'landed' and was beside people and vehicles could you tell it was way to small to even lift a dog. However even during the flight it was floating in such a way that it was obvious there was no payload. For example at one point it was on its side and almost going inverted.
The dad *MUST* have known there was no way for it to lift his boy, therefor this is a complete hoax. I hope they see jail time, and I hope their kids get a better shot at life than what they are getting dealt now.
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I love how people running on a field at a game gets squashed imediaetly but this crap gets several days of exposure. I personally want to hand out some noggin thumps to the people that keep this going (media).
The way the story should have ended several days ago is......
Balloon and all materials (even at the house) left over get confiscated.
defax gets called and the normal investigation routine follows.
FAA fines to the maximum allowable amounts.
Media gets fined for every infraction for the days of speculation and mis information. Remember news is only what has actuallt happened not what might or is being discussed.
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I love how people running on a field at a game gets squashed imediaetly but this crap gets several days of exposure. I personally want to hand out some noggin thumps to the people that keep this going (media).
The way the story should have ended several days ago is......
Balloon and all materials (even at the house) left over get confiscated.
defax gets called and the normal investigation routine follows.
FAA fines to the maximum allowable amounts.
Media gets fined for every infraction for the days of speculation and mis information. Remember news is only what has actuallt happened not what might or is being discussed.
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