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Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Jimdandy on January 31, 2001, 12:49:00 PM
I live on the Columbia River so I remember very well the roar of these babies on the water. THOSE WERE THUNDERBOATS! You could hear them 10 miles away easy!

Here are some spec's for the RR Griffon powered Miss Bud.
 http://www.unlimitedexcitement.com/Griffon%20Budweiser/Griffon%20Engine.htm (http://www.unlimitedexcitement.com/Griffon%20Budweiser/Griffon%20Engine.htm)

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Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Karnak on January 31, 2001, 02:59:00 PM
I want my Spitfire F.MkXIV!!!

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Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Zigrat on January 31, 2001, 03:47:00 PM
me too. clipped wing and galland hood please!
Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Jimdandy on January 31, 2001, 04:02:00 PM
Did you guys look at that engine? It isn't a stock Griffon. I want the Miss Bud engine and the prop to match in a Spit.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Zigrat on January 31, 2001, 04:08:00 PM
like this one

 (http://utenti.fastnet.it/utenti/caporelli/spitmk14-1.jpg)

best air superiority fighter to see combat in ww2

the bearcat is better but it *barely* missed seeing combat, oh well.
Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: LJK Raubvogel on January 31, 2001, 04:42:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Zigrat:
me too. clipped wing and galland hood please!


Galland hood on a Spitfire? Galland must be rolling in his grave right now.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)


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Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: funked on January 31, 2001, 06:10:00 PM
Yes that or a Mk VIII or a Mk XII or a Mk IX LF or a Mk XVI LF or a Seafire XV GIMME GIMME GIMME
Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Jimdandy on February 02, 2001, 09:21:00 AM
I love how I posted this and I don't think anyone read what I posted or looked at the site.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Karnak on February 02, 2001, 11:01:00 AM
JimDandy,
I read it before replying.  They stuck Shackleton Griffon engines into racing boats.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

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-Karnak
Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Jimdandy on February 02, 2001, 11:34:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Karnak:
JimDandy,
I read it before replying.  They stuck Shackleton Griffon engines into racing boats.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)


Thanks Karnak. Wouldn't that have made a bad bellybutton engine in a Spit. Ummmm 4,000hp Spit.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: funked on February 02, 2001, 12:05:00 PM
nm

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Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: whels1 on February 02, 2001, 02:09:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by funked:
nm

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how about the  the p51 modified to chase V1s, would do 450 mph at 5k alt weeeeeedogggie.

whels
Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Jimdandy on February 02, 2001, 02:25:00 PM
That would be a hot rod all right.
Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Bombjack on February 05, 2001, 07:06:00 AM
How about Allied planes running 150 octane fuel as a perk (or extra points if the plane is already perked and could run 150 octane)?
Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Lephturn on February 05, 2001, 07:25:00 AM
How about as a Perk I can get my crewchief to modify my P47-D-25 to allow 72 " of boost pressure like Johnson's plane and many others?   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

You can have your steenkin' perk planes, let me "tune up" my Jug like they really did.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/cool.gif)

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Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Bombjack on February 05, 2001, 07:27:00 AM
Lephturn, since high-octane fuel is an anti-detonant, and detonation is what stops running high MAP, we're asking for the same thing.

I guarantee Johnson's P47 was using 150 octane.

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As an aside, FWIW a tuned up Spitfire would routinely go up to 81" MAP.

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Title: Perk engine for the Spit :)
Post by: Jimdandy on February 05, 2001, 10:33:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Bombjack:
Lephturn, since high-octane fuel is an anti-detonant, and detonation is what stops running high MAP, we're asking for the same thing.

I guarantee Johnson's P47 was using 150 octane.

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As an aside, FWIW a tuned up Spitfire would routinely go up to 81" MAP.

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Yes, high octane fuel was the norm for US rides. The Germans had to deal with a very limited fuel and refinery capacity. That's why they used low octane fuels. The little triangles buy the gas cap on the 109's indicated the octane rating needed in that plane. 87-octane was very common in the 109's. I think that was a yellow triangle. I think the G-10 might have had a red triangle That designated 100-octane. It was something like that. I'm sure there are some LW guys on here that could tell you exactly. It was a big factor in the ease of making a high alt performer. That was part of the reason for the large capacity WEP systems on the LW rides. You can't build as much cylinder pressure on low octane gas so you have to find other means of getting power out of the engine. As Bombjack said detonation is the problem. Just like putting low octane fuel in a high compression/boost car. It will detonate under load and beat the low end up and burn holes in pistons.