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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MrMeanie on October 18, 2009, 10:21:09 AM
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It's hard, very hard, for me to write objectively right now, but here is a summary of what we heard on BASH 123. If you missed it...we will have it on demand in a few minutes.
The raw version of BASH 123 can be found here temporarily.
Fourzerotwo was on our BASH webcast this morning and he had a few surprises for the PC community.
Here are the snippets:
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We're doing a lot on the backend to make the game accessible for everyone.
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There is no delay for the PC version of MW2
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There's prestige mode
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Jason West at the MP event, said that he was dead on, on the matchmaking servers. We've been building a system on the backend called IW.NET.
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You are completely reliant on IW.NET. There are no server lists. There are no dedicated servers.
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You have private matches where you can customize the game
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You cannot put MW2 on a dedicated server.
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This is the first time we've ever done something like this and the team has huge plans for what IW.NET develops into.
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Customizing your game...you have quite a few options in a private match
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You're getting same game (as in Console), plus matchmaking and private match.
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Server admin point-of view, NO DEDICATED SERVERS
I've summarized some of my own thoughts from the cast here:
General
* IW partnering through Steam is what you will see in the future. Matchmaking is not through Steam, but IW.NET is run in conjunction with Steam.
* GSP's will no longer be renting out servers.
* No PunkBuster. VAC will be used as an anti cheat.
* Retail distribution: Pre-orders will get a disk. Or you could order from Steam.
* DLC may now need to be paid for - not confirmed.
* Piracy was only a small reason for going to IW.NET - not the whole reason.
Clans:
* No more clan servers. Private matches, replace clan servers.
* Listen servers will connect to each other.
* IW.NET/Steam will replace the community server admin
Competitive Gaming
* Competitive gaming has changed forever.
* It might be possible in the future for IW engineers to load a "competitive" setting on IW.NET, but it is far from a guarantee. It might also never happen.
Modding
* Modding the game is now very much in question. Fourzerotwo had no info on modding. However, it appears that there will be no mods or maps for MW2.
* Modding in SpecOps? Unknown.
Today our game has changed for ever.
I'll leave this post with Josh Peckler's comments from planetmedalofhonor.com:
The server community is what's made us. It's what defined us.
IW.NET is getting the PC community to turn into consoles. You're trying to re-write our history.
Talk about geting the shaft and no reach around?*cleanversion*
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OMFG!
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ok im alittle lost here, i play call of duty 4 modern warfare all the time, so what your saying is there dropping all the servers? making it more privatized? you had no link to read about whats happening with the game
"edit" ok my bad your talking about there upcoming release..
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It is console based, they are porting it to us PC'ers, pre-order is now canceled.
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Here are the weapons tehre adding in.
http://www.modernwarfare247.com/weapons (http://www.modernwarfare247.com/weapons)
SOOOO happy there adding the fully automatic Glock 18 :aok
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I play the PC version of MW modern warfare and EA sent me a preorder form for the PC version of MW2.
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http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw
Sign IT!
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Good thing I'm a console dweeb. I could care less. :noid
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omgzd i am so stoked
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If this means the hacking in COD will end its only a step for the better.
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no vac rarely updates and its super easy to bypass it with hacks.. my clan uses punkbuster / pbbans / other tools. and please dont start a flame war thank you
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Mrmeanie remember me? :joystick:
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Mrmeanie remember me? :joystick:
yes i do you big nublet :cheers:
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If this means the hacking in COD will end its only a step for the better.
Won't ever end as long as the game makers continue to maintain opengl hooks in the FPS games. I spent years chasing the hackers and their codes...punkbuster has done a good job of catching up but there are a lot of "private hacks" still running lose.
My understanding of this new thing with ModernWarfare2 is crossplatform console/pc online interconnectivity. The idea is supposed to allow console gamers to compete online with pc gamers on the same servers and the best way to control that is for the developers to control the servers. Turning the FPS world into the MMO type of envirionment where you have hundreds battling it out on the same server sounds like fun to a lot of people who enjoy the run n gun frag fest of game play. Also sounds like it could turn into a cash cow for the developers...pay for the game...pay for online access...and once people get used to having the massive online stuff, adding a "small monthly fee" won't be so difficult.
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I play the PC version of MW modern warfare and EA sent me a preorder form for the PC version of MW2.
DO NOT ACCEPT! Knowing EA they'll probably send you a very beat up version that barley works that they've been using as a frisbee, while they think up even dumber ways to create an absolute terrible game with the worst AI you've ever seen! Every EA game that I've ever tried has had the same problems that every game they've ever produced has. It's like they don't even try! I truly think that EA has never, let alone think of, updating their AI system since 1999. The only thing they care about is graphics. They probably think "if it looks good that's good enough". I'd rather have a game with the crappiest graphics you've ever seen but the absolute best gameplay, than a game with superb graphics and the worst gameplay, AI, button layout of anything you've seen in 20 years! Last EA game I bought was NHL 09 (hadn't bought 1 in 5 years) just to see if they even attempted to fix some of their issues, but instead it's even worse than ever! AI just....just.....it's not even AI, AI stands for Artificial intelligence and their "AI' has zero intelligence. If you even touch one other player you get a penalty for tripping even if it was clean, and the shoot and hit button (this really got me going wtf?) are the same button!
Sorry, for the rant, but I absolutly HATE EA!
As for CoD:MW2, I can't wait! I've pre-ordered the Prestige Edition for the PS3 of Amazon! For anyone who doesn't know what the Prestige Edition is, you get the Game Modern Warfare 2, Concept Art Booklet, Hard Cover Book, AND Military Grade Night Vision Goggles! :D :P :x
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No i wont pre-Order i know EA and have seen how the destroy a game, PreOrder means "we dont have the money to finish it so give us your money now and you'll get what you get", lol NO THANKS, look what happened when EA bought the rights to Airwarriors they killed it off within 6 months.
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Mrmeanie remember me? :joystick:
Me too!!!!
Wassup!
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please stay on topic thank you...
and ill be back this some time this week,
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http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw
Sign IT!
Signed! Crazy Bastar*s at Activision need to put down the crackpipe!
lo lHitler rants about the lack of dedicated servers on Modern Warfare 2!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FKty5Kpf4w&feature=player_embedded
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IW say no dedicated servers largely because of cheating? Wah? I wasnt aware of the correlation between online game cheating and dedicated servers :huh
I guess Infinity Ward must think the average PC gamer is too stoopid to work out how to connect to game servers...or all live in mainland US, or Europe with cheap, high capacity intardnets
Tronsky