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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: oboe on September 15, 2001, 05:51:00 PM
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Am I seeing butterfly combat flaps on this bird?
(http://www.geocities.com/tj_laven/raiden.jpg)
Crap, another image link problem. Well check it out yourselves at:web page (http://homepage2.nifty.com/amraam/ah/)
[ 09-15-2001: Message edited by: oboe ]
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Yes, you are. Most Japanese fighters had them(eg: only A6M and Ki-61 didn't afaik).
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?!! Is that a prototype J2M? I notice only 3 prop blades. :eek:
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prototype.
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Mitsu, would you happen to have any J2M2 paint shemes... or were they more or less similar to the J2M3 schemes?
Also did J2M3 carry 100 rouds per gun Type 99-1 and 2 or were the Type 99-2 increased to 120 like late A6M5s?
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Originally posted by -=Silo=-:
Mitsu, would you happen to have any J2M2 paint shemes...
No.
I don't want to cut my book anymore. :p
Also did J2M3 carry 100 rouds per gun Type 99-1 and 2 or were the Type 99-2 increased to 120 like late A6M5s?
J2M3 had 2 Type 99-1 20mm Cannon (Short Barrel; 210 Rds. each) and 2 Type 99-2 20mm Cannon (Long Barrel; 190 Rds. each).
Mitsu
[ 09-17-2001: Message edited by: Mitsu ]
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^^ Mitsu please dont cut any more books :) :)
Wow... so the J2M3 had a total of 800 20mm rounds.
420 type 99-1
380 type 99-2
Thanks for the info! <S>
I hope Aces High gets the J2M3 soon :)
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Yes, We want BEST Japanese Intercepter in Aces High! :)
J2M3 is good addition.
Mitsu
[ 09-17-2001: Message edited by: Mitsu ]
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There are just so many interesting Japanese aircraft to choose from!
I thought I read somewhere that the J2M Raiden was troublesome and a disappointment, so its production was phased out in favor of the N1K2. Less than 500 were produced.
I still like it though. Personally I think its an intriguing aircraft. It has a very high rate of climb and powerful armament. Since AH doesn't model engine reliability issues, I don't doubt it would be an effective interceptor!
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Originally posted by oboe:
There are just so many interesting Japanese aircraft to choose from!
I thought I read somewhere that the J2M Raiden was troublesome and a disappointment, so its production was phased out in favor of the N1K2. Less than 500 were produced.
I still like it though. Personally I think its an intriguing aircraft. It has a very high rate of climb and powerful armament. Since AH doesn't model engine reliability issues, I don't doubt it would be an effective interceptor!
Oboe, it would seem that there might have been over 600 produced. I believe that the 476 number was the total from the Mitsubishi factory.
J2M1 = 8 (9 less proto No.4 for J2M2 development)
J2M2 =131 +/-
J2M3 =307 +/- (Mitsubishi)
J2M3 =128 (Koza KK)
J2M4 = 2
J2M5 = 43
J2M6 = 2
Grand Total= 621 of all models
Source: USSBS Pacific War, Reports Nos.16 & 34
IHTH
Jim Lansdale
Still a small number, however when you factor in that the J2M was used only for home defense of Japan, it surely wasn't meant to be fighting on the front at all.
I would imagine the Japanese didnt consider the US bombing the Home Islands as a possibility at all. J2M might have been phased out in favor of the slower but more manuverable N1K if the B-29 raids didn't start.
The J2M was one of the few (Ki-44 was the other I believe) that was able to reach the height at which the B-29 operated at. So production was reinstated because of the B-29 threat.
I think that the J2M would probably be the only non-perk plane that could effectively bring 4x20mm at 30k+ since the 190s are really medium-low alt planes. Also the insane climbrate of the J2M series (and Ki-44 ;) ) would make it ideal for HQ/Resources defense.
(http://communities.msn.com/_Secure/0LgAlACYPvkrQO8PKV42ELW2DjEDwsts6V1oUdrU77ScvXzpyC7zn66UhrF5MP1l0fSjglYGxtqk/J2M3MAX1.jpg)
I really do love that neat little plane :cool:
[ 09-17-2001: Message edited by: -=Silo=- ]
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Silo,
Thanks for the corrections and additional information. My info was cited in Stewart Wilson's Aircraft of WWII. You are no doubt correct on Mitsubishi's 476 number.
My source also indicates a small number were sent to the Phillippines in late 1944. It does seem much more appropriate as a Home Islands defense interceptor though.
Please tell me that 3D model is from HTC and is waiting to be skinned for inclusion in 1.08! :eek:
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Mitsu,Correct me if i am wrong, were not some Jack's fitted with 4 type 99-2's?
Away from home again :( I miss my books....
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Brady, a handful of J2M3 had 4xType 99.
We know them were known J2M3a.
The Type 99-1s ere removed and a gunpod (yeck) conataing the Type 99-2 was fitted on the wing much like early the N1K1-J. As a result the J2M took a performance hit... and I believe these (J2M3a) were discontinued after about 30 or so planes.
Perhaps Mitsu could shed more light on this.
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brady,
Most of J2M3s had Type 99-1 and Type 99-2 cannon.
J2M3 couldn't select 4 Type 99-2 Cannon because IJN gave priority of Type99-2 to N1K2-J.
a handful of J2M3a's had 4 Type 99-2 cannon tho.
Mitsu
[ 09-18-2001: Message edited by: Mitsu ]
[ 09-18-2001: Message edited by: Mitsu ]
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I have had the Great Pleashure of Handeling both the Type 99 1 & 2. I made arangements with a local Museum(the Oregon Military Museum) to photograph some of their aircraft MG/Cannon collection,the examples they have of these cannons are in Beautifule condition (they look new), they are not all that heavy I easly picked up both cannons(one at a time)and moved thean across the room so I could photograph them,the pictures turned out just ok,I ment to go back and do a better job of it but work intervened, someday :)Their realy is no big diference betwen the 2 the type 99-2 has a longer barel and a bit bigger receaver, they fire the same projectile, just a bit bigger shell case on the type 2.
It was a good day :)
If i were home I would post a pic :)I will try to do it for u all to see in a weak or 2 when i finish my curent prodgect.