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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: legoman on October 19, 2009, 01:57:41 PM
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I have not researched this topic much but i want something other than the lvt. i do recall the that the US did have a sea and land vehicle called the duck but idk
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they did have a duck.
It fits all of the requriments i think, but i doubt they will add it.
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DUKW
(http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/landing/DUKW01.jpg)
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I vote for the Higgins boat
(http://library.thinkquest.org/TQ0312174/higgins2/images/higgins2_gif.jpg)
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Junkers JU 52 would be nice too!
(http://www.championhillrelics.com/junkers-ju-52-04.jpg)
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JU 52 ftw and the DUKW or however you spell that :aok :aok :rock
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I vote for the Higgins boat
(http://library.thinkquest.org/TQ0312174/higgins2/images/higgins2_gif.jpg)
+1 we need more boats.
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I vote for the Higgins boat
(http://library.thinkquest.org/TQ0312174/higgins2/images/higgins2_gif.jpg)
Yay higgins boats!
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Junkers JU 52 would be nice too!
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The DUKW was not a true troop transport made for beach assaults like the LVT's were designed. The DUKW was made more for ship to shore movement of supplies and men after the beach was secured. However, it could work the same as the LVT for supplying by ship to shore. But I don't know if it would have any other benefit other than a little faster once on land.
BigKev
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Well hay-ul,
If the strat system is going to change, let's get bridges that matter, and glider troops to deal with 'em.
Ho yeah, you heard me: glider troops. Gotta have them gliders to transport the demo charges.
Can't use current game to tow? Coad baby, coad!
:bolt:
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they did have a duck.
It fits all of the requriments i think, but i doubt they will add it.
Blasphemy! Oink, I mean quack... :lol
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they did have a duck.
It fits all of the requriments i think, but i doubt they will add it.
Sounds like Pigs on The Wing have competition.... :noid
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LVT owns them all.
As for aircraft, I'd vote for the Curtiss Commando. It's basically a goon on steroids :t
Twice the troops, more power. By the way, that is 50 troops, the goon took 28.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Curtiss_C-46_Commando.JPG/800px-Curtiss_C-46_Commando.JPG)
Another option would be the Messerchmitt Giant
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-561-1142-21%2C_Grosseto%2C_Flugzeug_Me_323%2C_Verwundetentransport.jpg)
130 troops, or 12 tonne payload, oh, and 17 defensive guns. But it's sloooooow.
Or even the Horsa Glider.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Airspeed_Horsa.jpg)
Now this can be towed by various aircraft, down to even the goon, but was fequently towed by bombers. Carries about 3.5 tonnes, which would be 25 troops, and I also heard they carried GP's in them. The Gigant of course, also carried vehicles.
A good angle on the Horsa in AH would being towed with a heavy bomber that also has some payload :t
It would land on very small patches due to its special flaps.
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Then of course a tank-carrying glider. The Hamilcar:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/Hamilcar_landing.jpg)
It would carry this one for example:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/M22_Locust_light_tank_at_Bovington.jpg)
37mm gun and 40 mph.
Or this one:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Tetrarch_-_Light_Tank_Mark_VII.jpg)
It's ugly, but the gun is 40mm.
Both weight about the same as the M8 though, and the m8 is much faster...
The Gigant would of course also carry tanks...
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Horsa: you know you want it.
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Why so?
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Ah, sorry, no, Hamilcar is just as good, better I suppose due to gv loading, though I don't know how many were used that way.
"Hamilcar, you know you want it."
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Imagine the Gigant then. Carries an M8 AND a GP :D
But the Hamilcar, towed by i.e. a Lancaster, that's...evil :devil
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The two most commonly-used gliders in WW2 were the Airpeed Horsa and Waco CG Hadrian. Both could carry enough troops to capture the maproom, or carry a jeep and driver - enough for Aces High purposes, surely? If AH can model one glider, I vote for the Horsa.
[thinks - a Handley-Page Halifax or Short Stirling each with a towing option would be the perfect tugs]
Simba.
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If you want to ride in a DUKW head to Branson MO and the Ride the Ducks business. its kind of slow there since it got cold.
I think top speed on the water is 5 mph. on land 55 mph. but don't quote me on the water speed. I say skip em. getting stuck behind one on the street really stinks. they drive em slow. sorry for the thread hijack.
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The two most commonly-used gliders in WW2 were the Airpeed Horsa and Waco CG Hadrian. Both could carry enough troops to capture the maproom, or carry a jeep and driver - enough for Aces High purposes, surely? If AH can model one glider, I vote for the Horsa.
[thinks - a Handley-Page Halifax or Short Stirling each with a towing option would be the perfect tugs]
Simba.
They were the tugs since they were being replaced with better aircraft. That said, the Stirling would probably do okay in AH, and prompt a phenomenally big bomb-bay and bombing options not available today. 60 bombs I heard somewhere. But that is another issue. Bottom line, we already have fine "pullers".
On top of that...if AH were to feature tugged gliders, it would AFAIK be the very first Online sim ever to do so. ONE STEP BEYOND!!! Maybe an interesting challenge for HT. :rock
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How about a landing craft from a CV? :aok
(http://79thfg.low-ping.com/user/59132/Landing Craft image/gglc1.jpg)
(http://79thfg.low-ping.com/user/59132/Landing Craft image/gglc4.jpg)
(http://79thfg.low-ping.com/user/59132/Landing Craft image/gglc5.jpg)
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Well, if you can spawn a Shermie, why not. Finally the Panzers waiting at the beach would have a serious threat :devil
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that would be cool :O
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If you want to ride in a DUKW head to Branson MO and the Ride the Ducks business. its kind of slow there since it got cold.
I think top speed on the water is 5 mph. on land 55 mph. but don't quote me on the water speed. I say skip em. getting stuck behind one on the street really stinks. they drive em slow. sorry for the thread hijack.
Just crossed my mind. The duck would probably be able to speed nicely on land.
I've seen them in action, and their landings were also much easier than the ones of the Higgins boat. Also took a ride in one but it was a post war "duck".
They are a bit high for the landing, you have to get of the sides. Still okay, and not as "open" as the Higgins boat. I was involved with loading people on stretchers on to a "duck", and while somewhat high up, it was no problem at all with a trained crew of 4 with others on the receiving end. I think we actually did it with only 2 people one time or another.
Anyway, a duck would carry enough troops, and be much faster than a tank in the world of AH
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Id like the ju52
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a proper LST
Id like the LST to work like this.. You make a mission and to 5-10 people can join the mission (however many tanks the LST's could fit). When the mission starts the LST moves to the desired point on the beach and those who joined the mission can drive off the ship. While you wait for it to hit the beach you can man the guns on it to attack stuff on the ground or protect from air attack. :aok
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Yeah!!! :aok
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Great photo's, to be able to drop a tank into a battle with troop transporter would be great, but I dont see it happening. :bolt:
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I vote for the Higgins boat
(http://library.thinkquest.org/TQ0312174/higgins2/images/higgins2_gif.jpg)
This would be kinda cool.... have the Higgins boat get the troops to shore quickly, but the troops need to run in the rest of teh way... I like it. :)
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" . . . to be able to drop a tank into a battle with troop transporter would be great . . ."
Hoho, the Hamilcar was intended to be able to carry a small tank into action. A light tank weighing about five tons was developed for it; first test-flight, the tank fell straight through the bottom from a few hundred feet up. Wheeeeeeeeeeee . . . . . !
I was present when the RAF and Army got their heads together in 1970 and came up with the idea of dropping heavy loads by deploying parachutes at ultra-low level to drag the load straight out of the back. First load they strapped onto the pontoon was a Land Rover, and away went the H.S. Andover to try it out. The aircraft roared low across Old Sarum airfield, down went the ramp, out came the load - and it dug nose-in, somersaulted once and then slid upside-down what seemed to be half the length of the airfield. Took the JATE boys a couple of hours to drag away the mess (the Land Rover was about two feet high when they got the pontoon upright) and rather longer to fill in the trench so we could continue flying.
The Boss' comment as the mud, grass and bits of Land Rover flew through the air was priceless: 'Hmmmm, doesn't work. And just look what they've done to my lawn.'
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WHY NOT THE C-46 NOT THE C-47 I KNOW WHAT I TYPED :airplane: :noid :furious
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How about a landing craft from a CV? :aok
(http://79thfg.low-ping.com/user/59132/Landing Craft image/gglc1.jpg)
(http://79thfg.low-ping.com/user/59132/Landing Craft image/gglc4.jpg)
(http://79thfg.low-ping.com/user/59132/Landing Craft image/gglc5.jpg)
It's an LVT! It's a boat! It's a troop and vehicle carrier! It's a loatergoontankarrier
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:airplane: No, I was talking about another troop carrier. :airplane:
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Could you then name that carrier...correctly?
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I saw in a book it said Commando 46.
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I saw in a book it said Commando 46.
C-46 'Commando' and not Commando 46.
ack-ack
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I tinks w3 n33dz 2 haz dis
(http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/sherman-tank-off-garapan-beach-saipan-90021.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Sherman-mired-normandy.jpg)
lol,imagine all the whines
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If you want to ride in a DUKW head to Branson MO and the Ride the Ducks business.
Nah... Go to the Wisconsin Dells for a DUKW ride to remember... Other things to do in the Dells too... Can't think of ANY reason to go to Branson... Except, maybe, to get my mobile home tuned up... :D
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(http://www3.telus.net/pongo/milipede.jpg)
Is there even any question?
20mm top turret? 13mm nose and 2 13mm in the rear.
10 000 lb of cargo in a huge bay. 2.5 times the payload of a C47.
Can carry two combat ready jeeps. and drive them off the back.
Take off and land on a dime.
The real perk transport. Its almost like it was designed to do the mission of a goon in AH.
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:O We gotta get that thing! nice find! <S>
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And it's part of the 1945 'Rafwaffe' sitting in front of a hangar at Farnborough, how convenient. Thank you for delivering it, Winkle.
:aok
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in D-day they had shermans designed to pilot like a boat to shore 34 (or something close to that) attacked in that way 32 sank before reaching shore and the last 2 were destroyed in battle
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Yes, most of the american Sherman DD tanks sunk as they were launched way to early in heavy seas, they were quite a bit more effective on the commonwealth beaches.
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in D-day they had shermans designed to pilot like a boat to shore 34 (or something close to that) attacked in that way 32 sank before reaching shore and the last 2 were destroyed in battle
this site has some pictures of one thats for sale (no longer works!)
http://www.armyjeeps.net/swimtank/1943_sherman_m4.htm
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Would like to see a tank carrier then maybe we could get tanks to the strats again but what I really want to see is a deuce and a half :pray
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M35_2-1/2_ton_cargo_truck :salute
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I add a tank carrier!!! :aok :) :salute It be awesome!!! :cheers: :x :banana: :airplane:
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(http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab325/Magnus1_2010/Aces%20High%20II%20-%20BB%20posts/LP0129.jpg)
(http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab325/Magnus1_2010/Aces%20High%20II%20-%20BB%20posts/higgins1yv1.jpg)
How about the LCVP Higgins landing craft, They could bring troops, jeep, tank to shore. Just a thought to expand the AH II.