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Title: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: jay on October 19, 2009, 06:48:03 PM
since we got a new WWI arena coming in the next months maybe we can get some bombers just a thought??


german bombers!  :airplane:

Zeppelin Staaken R.VI
Date: 1917
Nationality: Germany
Engine: Four 260 hp Mercedes DIVa 6 cylinder inlines
Wingspan: 138ft 5in
Weight: 25,269 lbs.
Cruising Speed: 80 mph
Range: 8 hours
Ceiling: 12,467 ft
Armament: 4,400 lb of bombs, up to 7 machine guns

A.E.G. G-IV
Date: 1917
Nationality: Germany
Engines: 2x Daimler Mercedes D.IVa, 260 hp
Wing Span: 18.4 m (60 ft 4 in)
Length: 9.7 m(31 ft 10 in)
Height: 3.9 m (12 ft 8 in)
Weight, Empty: 2,488 kg (5,486 lb)
Weight, Gross: 3,664 kg (8,079 lb)
Cruising Speed: 145 km/h (90 mph)
Max Speed: 165 km/h (103 mph)
Rate of Climb: 1,000 m (3,280 ft)/5 min
Service Ceiling: 4,500 m (14,760 ft)
Range: 652 km (405 mi)
Crew: 2

Gotha G.V.
Date: 1917
Nationality: Germany
Manufactor: Gothaer Waggonfabrik AG
Type: Heavy Bomber
Wing Span: 77ft 9ins
Length: 40ft 9ins
Max Speed: 87.5 mph
Ceiling 21,325 ft
Range: 522 miles
Endurance: 4 hours
Max Load: 1,100 lb
Norm Load: 660 lb
Weight: 6,039 lb
Weight: 8,745 lbs.
Crew: 3
Armament: 1,102 lb of bombs, 3 machine guns

not found on wikipedia!!!


allied bombers  :noid

Airco D.H.4
Country: Great Britain
Manufacturer: Aircraft Manufacturing Co. Ltd.
Entered Service: March 1917
Number Built: 6295
Engine(s):
Rolls-Royce Eagle VII, 12 cylinder, 375 hp
Liberty 12, 12 cylinder, 395 to 421 hp (USA)
Wing Span: 42 ft 4½ in 12.92 m
Length: 30 ft 8 in 9.35 m
Height: 11 ft 3.35 m
Gross Weight: 3,472 lb 1,575 kg
Speed: 143 mph 230 km/h sea level
Ceiling: 23,500 ft 7,163 m
Endurance: 6 hr 45 min
Crew: 2
Armament: 2-4 machine guns 460 lb 208.7 kg of bombs


Breguet Br.14B2
Country: France
Type:
Bomber (B2) and Reconnaissance (A2)
Entered Service: Summer of 1917
Number Built: About 5,500 during World War I
Engine: Renault 12 Fox, 12 cylinder, 300 hp
Wing Span: 47 ft 1¼ in 14.36 m
Length: 29 ft 8.87 m
Height: 10 ft 10 in 3.3 m
Gross Weight: 3,892 lb 1,765 kg
Speed: 110 mph 177 km/h at 6,560 ft 2,000 m
Ceiling: 19,030 ft 5,800 m
Endurance: 2¾ hours
Crew: 2
Armament: 2-3 machine guns 661 lb 300 kg of bombs


Caproni Ca.3
Country: Italy
Manufacturer:Caproni
Type: Bomber
Entered service: summer of 1915
Engines: 3 Isotta Fraschini V.4B 180 hp
Length: 11.05 m
Height: 3.85 m
Empty Weight: 2,650 kg
Loaded Weight: 3,650 kg
Maximum Speed: 37 km/hr.
Wing Span: 22.74 m
Ceiling: 4,100 m
Endurance: 4 h 45 min
Crew: 3 Armament: 3-6 machineguns

Caproni Ca.42
Country: Italy
Manufacturer:Caproni
Type: Heavy Bomber
First Introduced: 1918
Number Built: 32
Engines: 3 Isotta-Fraschini, V-6, 270 hp
Wing Span: 98 ft 1 in 29.9 m
Length: 42 ft 11¾ in 13.1 m
Height: 20 ft 8 in 6.3 m
Gross Weight: 14,793 lb 6,710 kg
Speed: 78 mph 126 kmh
Ceiling: 9,842 ft 3000 m
Endurance: 7 hours
Crew: 4
Armament: 4 to 8 machine guns
3,197 lb 1,450 kg of bombs


Caudron R.11
Date: 1918
Nationality: France
Engine: Two 220 hp Hispano-Suiza in-line V's
Wingspan: 58ft 9in
Weight: 4775 lbs.
Cruising Speed: 114 mph
Range: 3 hours
Ceiling: 19,520 ft
Crew: 2
Armament: 265 lb of bombs, 5 machine guns

Sikorsky Ilya Mourometz V
Date: 1915
Nationality: Russia
Engine: four 150 hp Sunbeam V-8's
Wingspan: 97ft 9in
Weight: 10,117 lbs. Cruising Speed: 75 mph
Range: 5 hours
Ceiling: 9,840 ft
Armament: 1,150 lb of bombs, up to 7 machine guns


sort out the ones you like!


Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Strip on October 19, 2009, 08:55:37 PM
WWI arena will be a dueling arena.....no bombs allowed.
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: ImADot on October 19, 2009, 09:17:30 PM
Werd.

Already enough places for people to bomb stuff and rush bases.
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Denholm on October 19, 2009, 10:02:54 PM
(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1125/hab.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Plazus on October 19, 2009, 11:53:56 PM
Hm... Id like to see the Zeppelin and the Handley Page.  :neener:
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: jay on October 19, 2009, 11:56:32 PM
would be funny as hell if we got zepplins
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Treize69 on October 20, 2009, 07:40:19 AM
would be funny as hell if we got zepplins

They were fun in DoA, though disappointing when killed.
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: LLogann on October 20, 2009, 08:20:47 AM
Funny how nobody listens to what HTC tells us.

Sounds real cute and all........... But NO.

WWI dogfighting only.  Read it over. 



Let them get it up and running, work the bugs out and then after a year of cleaning it up, ask for silly stuff like WWI bombers. 

Besides, in the early stages of the WWI weren't pilots throwing bombs out of the cockpit? 
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Westy on October 20, 2009, 08:23:52 AM
This is the wishlist forum corky. Nothing wrong with anyone expressing or
imagining things they would like to have added at some point .
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Greebo on October 20, 2009, 08:53:59 AM
I guess this is the WW1 equivalent of a B-29 thread?   :D
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: LLogann on October 20, 2009, 09:11:08 AM
As valid a point as it is.........  It's like wishing for a tweek to the damage model of the X-Wing.

This is the wishlist forum corky. Nothing wrong with anyone expressing or
imagining things they would like to have added at some point .

Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Denholm on October 20, 2009, 10:12:11 AM
Funny how nobody listens to what HTC tells us.

Sounds real cute and all........... But NO.

WWI dogfighting only.  Read it over. 



Let them get it up and running, work the bugs out and then after a year of cleaning it up, ask for silly stuff like WWI bombers. 

Besides, in the early stages of the WWI weren't pilots throwing bombs out of the cockpit? 
Do you mind showing me your HTC staff badge? Last I checked they didn't ask you to bark out at community members that this wish shouldn't be here.
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: LLogann on October 20, 2009, 10:20:12 AM
Hi pot, I'm the kettle.  It's nice to meet you.    Were you going to add something?

Last I checked they didn't ask you to bark out at community members that this wish shouldn't be here.
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: blkmgc on October 20, 2009, 12:17:52 PM
F2B carried bombs.
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Treize69 on October 20, 2009, 12:44:30 PM
So did the Camel for that matter...
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: jay on October 20, 2009, 03:10:16 PM
ok ok wasnt asking for these bombers in like the very new relaese but amybe later on when WWI planes are more popular and i guess i shouldnt have posted if it was going to get flamed  :noid
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: blkmgc on October 20, 2009, 06:19:54 PM
No worries man. The ones flaming are the same ones flaming every WWI thread out there. Just learn to skip over their posts.  :salute
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: StokesAk on October 20, 2009, 07:42:31 PM
WWI arena will be a dueling arena.....no bombs allowed.

This will be bad...now how will i get kills if there are no bombers!
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Shifty on October 20, 2009, 08:22:12 PM
Since none of you other guys are going to say it...


(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1125/hab.jpg)


OH THE HUMANITY!!!
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Treize69 on October 21, 2009, 09:56:59 AM
I thought about it, decided that it was a bad joke, even for me. :)  :neener:
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: horble on October 21, 2009, 05:42:21 PM
Zeppelins were fun in DoA.

Nothing like flying one for 80 miles into the middle of a huge furball  :lol
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: RipChord929 on October 21, 2009, 05:50:40 PM
Wasn't all Zepps... Gotha G5a...

Not that I want WWI bombers in the new arena... Just don't think they will serve any purpose...
Hell, they served no tangible purpose in the real war...

RC

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RipChord929/WW1%20Aircraft/GothaG5a.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: bravoa8 on October 21, 2009, 07:16:26 PM
Where'd you get that pic there Denholm was that in the H2H days did you make your own model? :confused:
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Treize69 on October 21, 2009, 07:34:06 PM
Where'd you get that pic there Denholm was that in the H2H days did you make your own model? :confused:

Its called 'photoshop'  :D
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: bravoa8 on October 21, 2009, 07:35:07 PM
Its called 'photoshop'  :D
Awwwww.
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Simba on October 23, 2009, 12:30:09 PM
"Not that I want WWI bombers in the new arena... Just don't think they will serve any purpose...
Hell, they served no tangible purpose in the real war..."

Really? The raids on the UK made by airships and aeroplanes led to RFC and RNAS squadrons being withdrawn from the Western front to fly Home Defence against them - and the unification of the RFC and RNAS into the RAF, the world's first dedicated air force separate from the Army and Navy. The RNAS's raids in Handley-Page 0/400s deep behind enemy lines kept the German troops awake when they badly needed sleep too . . .

The biggest killer in WW1 was artillery. If a combat flight sim is to make any pretence at reproducing the WW1 war in the air, it should include effective artillery bombardment and the ability of the two-seaters to direct that bombardment. The BE2c/e, RE8, Rumpler and Albatros C-series two-seaters that took the photos and directed the artillery fire were the primary targets for the lighter single-seater 'scouts' that evolved into the world's first fighters. Fighters then fought fighters so the two-seaters could do their work properly. The whole point of fighter aviation isn't to run up a cricket or baseball score, it's to gain and hold air superiority so the rest of the air force can do its job: in WW1 and in order of priority, photo recce, artillery observation, ground attack and strategic bombing.

Everyone enjoys the odd furball but it ain't the be-all-and-end-all of combat flight sims. The more variety, the better the sim.

Cheers!

Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: Eric122 on March 21, 2010, 12:42:04 PM
+1 for the gotha and zepplin
Title: Re: WWI bombers maybe???
Post by: jay on March 21, 2010, 12:48:32 PM
wow bump