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Title: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: Jebus on October 20, 2009, 07:27:53 PM
I dont feel so bad that I stink at Rock Band.  I mean if these guys cant do it... Must say something about the game  :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPzA4hqHj2s&NR=1
 :rock
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: CHAPPY on October 20, 2009, 07:50:28 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: allaire on October 20, 2009, 08:30:36 PM
I would agree with you except that playing GH and Rock Band is different than playing the real instruments.
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: Jebus on October 20, 2009, 08:39:50 PM
I was saying it more jokingly then being serious.  You have three guys at the top of the list of there respected instruments.  It just shows Rock Band and Guitar Hero are just games.  They give you nothing in terms of playing an instrument.
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: vonKrimm on October 20, 2009, 09:05:14 PM
I was saying it more jokingly then being serious.  You have three guys at the top of the list of there respected instruments.  It just shows Rock Band and Guitar Hero are just games.  They give you nothing in terms of playing an instrument.

Much as Aces High......
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: 1pLUs44 on October 20, 2009, 10:09:42 PM
Hate rockband, I'm alright at the guitar, can play it pretty good, and I can learn very easily, but never got any where past easy mode in guitar hero. I'd go to parties, and everyone would be playing it, and I'd either sit down and just watch, or leave.
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: Serenity on October 21, 2009, 03:15:56 AM
Much as Aces High......

And AH, much like guitar hero, is more difficult than the real thing (in some aspects, imho).
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: druski85 on October 21, 2009, 08:56:16 AM
And AH, much like guitar hero, is more difficult than the real thing (in some aspects, imho).

Errmmmmm.

Guitar hero is a whole lot easier than real guitar.  I got really, really good at that game in maybe 4 weeks.  4 years later, I'm still not really, really good at guitar.  And I know music already from playing trumpet for 9 years. 

Either way, that video is pretty good  :aok
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: Nefarious on October 21, 2009, 10:00:56 AM
I have no musical talent at all, except for maybe the ability to keep some kind of beat with drums. But I think Beatles Rock Band is fun and challenging.
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 21, 2009, 12:43:02 PM
Supposedly, playing the drums in Rock Band will actually teach you how to play the drums in real life. 


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Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: Serenity on October 21, 2009, 02:08:28 PM
Errmmmmm.

Guitar hero is a whole lot easier than real guitar.  I got really, really good at that game in maybe 4 weeks.  4 years later, I'm still not really, really good at guitar.  And I know music already from playing trumpet for 9 years. 

Either way, that video is pretty good  :aok

Really? I have no musical talent myself, but I have heard from friends who play both that the game is harder sometimes.
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: Spikes on October 21, 2009, 02:47:00 PM
Supposedly, playing the drums in Rock Band will actually teach you how to play the drums in real life. 


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Not even close, I've been playing the drums for 6 or 7 years now, got on the drum set at a friend's house and barely got through an easy song. I go to reach for the cymbal and it's not there :mad (And yes I know you were kidding)

I hate people who play these games and say they know how to play guitar, or drums, etc. Yeah anyone can play on a piece of plastic. ;)
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: Motherland on October 21, 2009, 02:50:58 PM
Really? I have no musical talent myself, but I have heard from friends who play both that the game is harder sometimes.
There's absolutely no comparison. The game adds extra crap sometimes to make things harder, which gives people the idea that it's actually easier on a real guitar, but there's about 25x as many possible inputs on the guitar just based on strings and frets, not to mention that expression actually means something :)
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: indy007 on October 21, 2009, 03:13:59 PM
Real instruments will always be much more difficult.

GH, RB, and all the clones are just glorified pattern memorization. No different from the Dance Dance Revolution series of games that preceded them, except now you get to sit on your butt and push the buttons.
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: Cougar68 on October 21, 2009, 03:26:17 PM
Not even close, I've been playing the drums for 6 or 7 years now, got on the drum set at a friend's house and barely got through an easy song. I go to reach for the cymbal and it's not there :mad (And yes I know you were kidding)

I hate people who play these games and say they know how to play guitar, or drums, etc. Yeah anyone can play on a piece of plastic. ;)

I run a recording studio and have played professionally for the last 17 years on both drums and guitar.  For an experiment I had a friend of mine come out and give it a shot.  He'd been playing Rock Band drums for a little over a year and never sat at a kit before in his life.  He wasn't going to win any music awards, but he was playing a consistent groove with decent feel within an hour of sitting down.  There were differences to work out, but he managed it and transitioned quite nicely.  Rock Band won't turn you into Neil Peart, but it definitely helped him learn the basics and coordination. 

The problem comes in transition from real life to Rock Band.  Your mind has to work a different way and I suck at it. 
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: Spikes on October 21, 2009, 03:32:09 PM
I run a recording studio and have played professionally for the last 17 years on both drums and guitar.  For an experiment I had a friend of mine come out and give it a shot.  He'd been playing Rock Band drums for a little over a year and never sat at a kit before in his life.  He wasn't going to win any music awards, but he was playing a consistent groove with decent feel within an hour of sitting down.  There were differences to work out, but he managed it and transitioned quite nicely.  Rock Band won't turn you into Neil Peart, but it definitely helped him learn the basics and coordination. 

The problem comes in transition from real life to Rock Band.  Your mind has to work a different way and I suck at it. 
I guess it was me going from real drums to fake drums that screwed me up. I'm sure if I wasn't used to the real set in any way I would do better with the RB ones...because I'd have nothing to go by...
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: druski85 on October 21, 2009, 03:37:40 PM
There's absolutely no comparison. The game adds extra crap sometimes to make things harder, which gives people the idea that it's actually easier on a real guitar, but there's about 25x as many possible inputs on the guitar just based on strings and frets, not to mention that expression actually means something :)

Nailed it.  16 spaces on a fretboard vs 5 buttons, 6 (or 12) strings versus one tab thinger.  Volume differential, slides, hammerons that involve more than pressing a button, bar chords...the list goes on.  Two different beasts.  

As for the drum set, you have a better chance sure..but it won't make you a drummer as is noted.  If you have natural rhythm you probably aren't going to make a total clown of yourself on either.  (In my opinion, anyway)  

On the plus side, if you can rock vocals in game...you can rock vocals :)  I personally enjoy playing bass and vocals at the same time in Rock Band, as guitar riffs are usually more tricky to look at while looking up for lyrics.  
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: Belial on October 21, 2009, 08:35:27 PM
These instrument games require proficiency in the ganja, get high and try once. :old:
Title: Re: Even Real Rock Band cant play it.
Post by: Enker on October 22, 2009, 07:29:06 PM
The only instruments I can play on Rock Band are the bass and vocals, because those are the two things I can play in real life. Of course, the bass is much easier than the keytar part, and I had practice from when I found out about Frets On Fire (would you believe that I had no idea what Guitar Hero was before then?). Of course, being able to sing from high tenor with falsetto to lower baritone helps with the vocal parts.