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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Karnak on March 13, 2001, 05:13:00 PM
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I know this is a bit early, but I'm having a series of bad days and I wish to think of something fun. Just for fun, I'm going to throw some longshots in.
Here goes:
Spitfire F.Mk.21
HTC will surprise us by giving us the best Spitfire of the war (although not the prettiest; goodbye elliptical wings) as a perk plane. This fighter is to the Spitfire series what the Ta152 is to the Fw190 series.
Il2-M3
The most produced warplane ever and with gobs of loadout options. Great ground attack capability and damage sponge extrordanaire. This is one of the most needed VVS aircraft.
Ki-61 IIb
The late war, cannon version of the IJA's Ki61. It was used with some success to down B-29As. This would be a good aircraft to start the IJA planeset with.
Me410A
This is a unique looking (except for the Me210), versatile German fighter/bomber. It would be a first as no other sim has modeled it.
Tu-2
This would be a great tactical bomber. It is fast, carries a decent bombload and is reasonably defended. It outclasses the B-26A by far.
Ki67
This would give the IJA a fast bomber that would also shine in the tactical sense (if I got the number right). Another bomber that does the same job as the B-26A, but better.
F7F-3N
The first perk plane for the US will be the Navy/Marine's Tigercat. With its thin body and two huge radial engines it is a very interesting aircraft.
A7M2 Reppu
Japan's first perk plane will be Jiro Horikoshi's successor to the A6M as he intended it, with the Mitsubishi engine. With less than 10 production models produced it still manages to qualify as a production fighter in WWII.
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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!
Sisu
-Karnak
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My guesses
Spit II.
Fw 190A6
P47N
F4u4
P51H
B24J
B29
BF109K4(finally!)
ME262
Should be the Best release yet!
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Hope your not off at all. I like the whole list.
-Westy
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Our G10 = K4.
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Originally posted by Pongo:
My guesses
Spit II.
Fw 190A6
P47N
F4u4
P51H
B24J
B29
BF109K4(finally!)
ME262
Should be the Best release yet!
oh please not the P47N...we need the "M" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Karnaks list looks sweet (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Me 262A-1a -/U4, 2x 250kg, R4Ms and option for Mk 214A 50mm.
He 162A-2
Me 163
He 177
Me 410
Bf 109E-4
190F-8 with 250kg on wings, panzerblitz and panzerschrecks.
Ki.84 I ko
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Nath_____
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
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A captured Bolshevik pilot once stated, "In battle, the fighters with the green hearts are generally in the minority. But when they're there, things realy heat up. They're all aces!"
[This message has been edited by Nath-BDP (edited 03-13-2001).]
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P47-m
spit mk.ix late (non perk)
spit mk.xiv (perk)
ki-100
ki-61
il2m3
peggy (jap bomber)
thats my guesses
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My guess would be PTO planes.. any and all.
P-40N
Kate
Val
F4U-4
f7f or f8f(<G> )
Maybe the ETO guys will get one but I would wager more PTO than ETO this time (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
s!
Rocket
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My guesses are that we are getting the following:
*****
*****
*****
*****
*****
*****
*censored by the HTC insider trading police*
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Karnak I like your list, but F7F and A7M never saw combat (A7M was a turd too), and Il-10 is more appropriate for our planeset than Il-2.
I would dearly love to fly a Tu-2 though. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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This is guesses, not wishlists right?
Japan-fest!
Ki-84-Ib
P1Y1 or Ki-67
D4Y3
Ki-102b
And for other countries:
Il-2 Type 3
S.M.79-II
Oh, wait - that's a wishlist...
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Funked,
I don't go by "It saw combat." That panders to the Germans.
I go by "Production models were produced during the war."
Why do you say the A7M was a "turd"? Everything that I have read says that it would have been Japan's best fighter.
Given, the A7M1 with the Homare engine was a crap, just like Horikoshi said it would be. But once it had the Mitsubishi Ha-43.11 engine that he wanted, it was great.
Saburo Sakai praised it in his book.
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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!
Sisu
-Karnak
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Btw: Ki-61-II?! That's probably the least representative JAAF fighter. Only 69 could have even seen service. Another 30 were destroyed before delivery, and the other 275 had no engine and became Ki-100-Ia's. Besides that, is the fact that the Ki-61-II is slow, climbs like crap and is probably the worst-turning Japanese fighter. But yeah, it has (2) cannon. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Ki-84-Ib(4 cannon) plz. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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yay, more luthwacker planes..we just got 3 and now we need more?
<BARF>
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My Guess's:
Ki-61/100
Ki-67 Peggy
::Maybe:: B5N2 (Jill?)
IL-2
Pe-2
SB2C Helldiver
Perk:P-51H
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Sundog
VMF-111 Devildogs (http://www.devildogs.com)
MAG-33 (http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/M3.html)
'Criticism is always easier than craftmanship.'
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Jugs I'd like to see:
- P-47M-1 - fastest prop plane of the war, a great escort plane, which can run down any prop interceptor at hi alt, and light enough to scrap with the best of the German AF fighters. This is a sentimental favorite for my squad since it was historically a 56th FG only plane.
- P-47N - only slightly slower than the M, but with much greater range, and capable of carrying 3000 lbs of bombs
- P-47D-21-RA, serial SN: 42-25512, code LM*Q - late model razorback jug, less range, but lighter, better turning and better climbing than current AH bubbletops. This jug should have max manifold pressure of 72". A great dogfighter for the MA. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
- P-47C or D-5 - early model razorback jug for 1943 Air Force scenarios
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Sancho
63rd FS, 56th FG
"Zemke's Wolfpack"
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It's much easier and better to come home tired with a sore neck from looking constantly in every direction and from constantly skidding sideways to look behind and around you than it is to leave the thing you sit on over enemy territory.--Robert S. Johnson
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YAY - let's add some more 190 variants! I can't get enough of them. We simply don't have enough LW yet - I think there is some kind of conspiracy at work here.
More LW in AH please!
More LW in AH please!
More LW in AH please!
More LW in AH please!
More LW in AH please!
I like your list, Karnak. But why should we have the 410 and not the mossie?
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Originally posted by Dowding:
I like your list, Karnak. But why should we have the 410 and not the mossie?
Cause it will reduce the number of LW plane to an unsupportable level (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Sancho, you are da man!
P-47M is really needed to catch those doRUNs and aRUNdos. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
And how can we live without a Razorback? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Jugs, Jugs, and more Jugs. What red blooded male can say he doesn't want to see any more jugs? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Sean "Lephturn" Conrad - Aces High Chief Trainer
A proud member of the mighty Flying Pigs
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Check out Lephturn's Aerodrome (http://users.andara.com/~sconrad/) for AH articles and training info!
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juzz,
Ki-100 used Ki-61-II's airframe.
SF or NATE can make Ki-100 (Ki-61-II) easily after releasing Ki-61-II (Ki-100). (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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While Juzz is correct about the low numbers of the Ki61-II, I still believe that for our purposes of finding a JAAF aircraft that is competitive in the main arena, the Ki61-II is superior to the Ki-100. Sure the Ki-100 is a better turner, but you give up so much speed that it just isn't worth it.
I hope to eventually see the Ki84 and the Ki61-II.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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All we need is the late war variant of the Jack, talk about a screamer and a turner to boot. The Ki-84 would also be nice but it might be to much for this room. Add the P-40 and you will see a plane that will never see action.
Ki-67 a must have
Ki-102 a definate must have
Fiat G.55 Centauro You want an Italian plane that will kick the crap out of a lot of planes this is it.
Ju-52 we got the goon why not this one?
J2M3 the Jack
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Heya's,
I also want the hot-rod P-47 but I think the N would be a better choice.
1. It was just as fast as the M but was heavier because of an increased fuel capacity. But you don't need to carry extra fuel. So then it is just as fast!!
2. It had clipped wings that increased roll rate over prior Jug's and the M.
3. There really is no 3 except that it would have Pac marking's and fit in with the 1.07 theme of late war pac monsters ie.
F4U-4
Ki-84/100
F7F
F8F
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We'll probably see one or two brit planes, couple russian and couple jap planes in next version.
Probably maybe one more version of some US plane.
LW will probably see just one new version or a plane.. if even that.
(at least they could add those rockets and 1000kg/2000lb bombs for the planes!)
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Originally posted by Sturm:
Fiat G.55 Centauro You want an Italian plane that will kick the crap out of a lot of planes this is it.
Ah, dont expect too much from the G.55. It is a good 1943 high alt inteceptor with the max speed of a 109G-6 (less than 390mph TAS at 23K, that is). Quite deadly, tho, with her 3x20mm and *much* more maneuverable than a 109 with gondolas.
The DB603 engined G.55, called G.56 (a few prototypes built and tested), could be a nice perk indeed, with her 430-440mph TAS at altitude (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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GAT
4° Stormo Caccia - Knights (http://www.4stormo.it)
"The Eyeties are comparatively easy to shoot down. Oh, they're brave enough. In fact, I think the Eyeties have more courage than the Germans, but their tactics aren't so good. They are very good gliders, but they try to do clever acrobatics and looping. But they will stick it even if things are going against them, whereas the Jerries will run." (G.Beurling)
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Originally posted by Mitsu:
juzz,
Ki-100 used Ki-61-II's airframe.
SF or NATE can make Ki-100 (Ki-61-II) easily after releasing Ki-61-II (Ki-100). (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Yes, and they would both be outclassed in the AH arena. The Ki-84 is the only real choice for the first JAAF fighter in AH.
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Upon further notes on the G-56 After the fall of Italy," Heard 26 allied sodiers took Italy" The 56 was brought back and formed for the defense of the Reich, forming 1 or 2 squadrons, or staffels I will have to check not sure on exact number. But I know they were being used up to the point of the russians taking Berlin. It's heavy loadout of MG 151's is a nice outfit of guns IMO.
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What we need is more PAC planes. I would like to see the addtion of one of my favorite dweeb-mo-biles.....The B25H with the 75mm gun and the 8 .50's in the nose. Load outs would include 8 Rockets, 500 pound skip bomb capability and of course parachute bombs for those low level sorties. Now this is JABO-DA-HUT to the max. Would be great as an anti shipping ride. We would then have to have random supply shipping to straff....oh man I get a woody just thinking about it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
Oh and it would need loud speakers blaring "Flight of the Valkery" (sp) or Guns and Roses welcome to the jungle.
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"Little boy blue....cause he needed the money".....owwwww
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Originally posted by F4UDOA:
I also want the hot-rod P-47 but I think the N would be a better choice.
I meant to say I hope we get all of those jugs. 1.07 shall be remembered as "the P-47 version." (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
[This message has been edited by Sancho (edited 03-14-2001).]
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Hey Sancho, I think we Jug pilots are going to have to get a booze and pizza lobbying campaign going to HTC!
The solution to the problem of which version to model (M or N) is simply to model both. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Sean "Lephturn" Conrad - Aces High Chief Trainer
A proud member of the mighty Flying Pigs
http://www.flyingpigs.com
Check out Lephturn's Aerodrome (http://users.andara.com/~sconrad/) for AH articles and training info!
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M or N, lets get at least one of them.. I'll even take a D23 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) But the M is the Air to Air monster of them all. We Jug guys have our heads on straight.
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