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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: PG monster on September 17, 2001, 02:28:00 PM
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the Yakovlev colors: The Yak-9 has not any number at fuselage or rudder, but such number were usual in Soviet military air services
[VVS, PVO, DBA(ADD), fleets].
And it would be nice to paint a nose of one the Yak's (the Yak-9T is better, an opponent will see the danger while head on attempt :-)
for example to red color.
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If you are able to see the color its already too late anyway :D
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Give the yak9T the colors of Marcel Albert plane ! (A Normandie Nieman pilot)
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I sure wish Pyro would give us the Yak-9UT he hinted that we would probably get a long time ago :)
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i thought ut didnt see service in ww2?
but it would be a pimpin plane. i might give up my g10-30mm for a while for it :)
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Nope it saw service. In small numbers of course, but it saw service.
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Yak-9UT - cooool, I want it too :)
3 cannons 37mm + 2x23mm 8-)
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Yakov 9,U,T has been used in late time of war
as well as LA5FN,LA7... but there was first prototype in 41
;)
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It seems a shame to hanker after an AC that had only 285 odd built and those that saw service, saw it litterally (s)days before the war ended. I s'pose the triple cannon is atractive (37 + 2x b20) but the Yak 3 would be far more representative of the latter war conflict.
Also the Yak 3 in Normandie Nieman colours would be appropriate.
Tilt
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How about a Yak-1 or a LaGG-3.
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Tilt, I believe the "want" for the Yak-9UT has to do with the fact that its would be one of the simplest varients, in AH. In other words take the least time to produce and implement into the game.
Many people like the Yak-9U but due to its anemic armament, its not a truely viable aircraft in the MA. Small clip and no effective snapshot.
True there were only around 300 -UT's, but I can point to several other aircraft/armament options that are common in AH that have similar production levels.
I haven't looked the numbers up lately, but I thought there were more Yak-9U's than there were Yak-3's ?
Regardless, its just an aircraft that I know I would like to fly in AH :) Plus it would be very easy to do
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S!
First we need a standard Yak-9D to fill in the missing '43-'44 Soviet Fighter planeset. After that, need the Yak-3 as the Soviet Perk. Then some early war planes, the best of that period was the Yak-1, but the Lagg-3 might be a better choice so we get more variety in design bureau types. Maybe even a Mig-3, although it was a pig in handling, it had a good high alt. performance for its time.
After all that, then bring in the Yak9UT.
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Why would the Yak-3 be a perk?! Overall, it really isn't any better than the Yak-9U.
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Juzz, He's probably thinking of the Yak-3 with the VK107 that did 448mph, instead of the much much more common Yak-3 with the 105 engine in it.
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The Yak chars at :
wio.boom.ru/tacftr/yak.htm
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MB fix yak-9 FM first?
Yak-9 never could dive over 800kmh(by VVS test reports 750kmh was max speed limit. In dives conrols stiffened up much and became overly heavy. If speed went higher pilots couldnt straighten up the plane)
Pilots flying yaks in the front(VVS test planes were in extreme good condition)
reported many structural failures in high speed dives. Such as cockpit or engine cover tearing off at 750kmh. Fast production had it's drawbacks.
Finnish Brewster and 109 pilots used fast dives to ground level to disengage from combat against yaks, because these rarely tried to follow. La-5 and p-39 were different. Especially finns found it sometimes hard to disengage from La-5(FN?)
In dive it could easily go to 950kmh and even over if its pilot was enough cold blooded.(book top divespeed was 950kmh, but it could usually go more)
[ 09-28-2001: Message edited by: illo ]
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Yes Illo u r right!
Yak must be poor diver.
But I still wanna Yak-9UT (2x23mm+37mm)
as a perk(?) plane :-)
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Yak-3 is awesome plane, good match against dora.
IMO AH needs yak-3 too.
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Verm.
I appreciate that it was a "wouldn't it be nice" rather than a "what we need" preference.
I see that it would be easy to model a Yak 9UT. I dont think it would be much harder to make a Yak 3.
Total Yak9U in service prior victory about 2500 total Yak 3 in service prior victory about 4100 (although 800 had to have faulty wings strengthened)
The Yak3 with the less powerful but more reliable 105PFT engine weighed under 2700kgs to the Yak 9U's 3200kg.
It (Yak 3) seems to be able to out accelerate the 9U and have better performance low down. Where as the 9U seems to have shone best between 13 and 20K (ft).
So MA wise the yak 3 is an la7 with less armament better turn and better e retention in manouvering. But would be the the most fragile AC in the arena. (maybe even prone to wing rip under high g)
Tilt
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LaGG-3... urghhh
This plane for some reason I hate the most... even if it was made in USSR...
Ugly....
I cant believe you Funked put it togethere with beutefull YAK-1...
I-16 what we need... old trusty I-16... the MOST advanced fighter at its time, nice dive, speed, and not a bad armament... Bring I-16 and we see how soon we hear whines of yet another "UBER" soviet killing machine :)