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Title: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: 5PointOh on October 23, 2009, 01:34:37 AM
So I became really interested in the "Winter Camo" P-47d "Ole Cock", in talking to Peter Randall of "Little Friends" he sent me some pictures of this particular plane. So I thought I'd share them with you.  I think I may even try to replicate (even though we have no snow in AH yet).  It intrigues me enough to make it a project.  I hope you enjoy the pictures as much as I have.

Now my question for you gents, is the base color OD green, brown, or black.  I myself was thinking OD Green...

Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: lyric1 on October 23, 2009, 03:26:10 AM
Great pics looks like some one thought to take those for historical purposes.
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: Stoney on October 23, 2009, 07:34:30 AM
Its OD green.  Where's the winter camo?
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: 5PointOh on October 23, 2009, 09:09:44 AM
You didnt see the white paint on the wing tops, fuseluage top and ailerons? :confused:
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: Stoney on October 23, 2009, 12:37:47 PM
Sorry, need to learn how to use my scroll wheel apparently.  That's  a unique paint job for sure.  I've never heard of any snow camo on P-47s before.
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: 5PointOh on October 23, 2009, 12:52:27 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a US bird with camo like that. 

Here is a rough rough draft, you think I should go darker on the OD?
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: Stoney on October 23, 2009, 12:54:14 PM
Hard to tell with that neon material file...  Try knocking the specularity down low and repost the picture.
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: 5PointOh on October 23, 2009, 01:05:13 PM
how this?  To me I think I should go darker... :headscratch:
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: 5PointOh on October 23, 2009, 01:10:16 PM
Heres a darker color...
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: StokesAk on October 23, 2009, 01:49:27 PM
Personally i like the lighter one, cool skin.
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: 5PointOh on October 23, 2009, 05:05:01 PM
Now I stand at a delima, many book authors suggest that "Ole Cock" would have been grey and dark grey with a blue underside.  Yet most the of the 8AF had a metal finish on the underside.  Not sure which is correct and the right direction to go. :headscratch: :(
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: Plazus on October 23, 2009, 05:23:47 PM
Thats a tough decision, Copr. First, check the authors and see if they are "credible". If they seem like reliable sources of information, go with the blue underside. But if not, go for the baremetal underside.  :salute
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: 5PointOh on October 23, 2009, 07:10:23 PM
All come from Osprey Publishing... hmmm
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: Fencer51 on October 23, 2009, 08:16:40 PM
Yet most the of the 8AF had a metal finish on the underside.  Not sure which is correct and the right direction to go. :headscratch: :(

That's not entirely true.  Up until the M Models all the P-47s of the 56th had grey undersides and were varying schemes of OD with OD/Grey on later D models.
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: 5PointOh on October 23, 2009, 08:51:13 PM
Ah true I forgot about those, so which is correct? Azure blue, grey or metal underside? I cant tell from any of the pics in the PDF at the top of the page.
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: Plazus on October 23, 2009, 10:29:04 PM
Research those authors. See if they have valid claims and historical sources in their books. Osprey Publishing is dedicated to history and historical events. So that is a good start. Read at the back of the books and make notes of the sources that the author used. Then try to look up those sources and see if they are valid. Hopefully that will help you determine which colors you should use.
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: Stoney on October 23, 2009, 11:24:39 PM
Ah true I forgot about those, so which is correct? Azure blue, grey or metal underside? I cant tell from any of the pics in the PDF at the top of the page.

If its an O.D. painted scheme, it'll have a medium gray ventral fuselage paint.  The 56th had some more "custom" late-model D paint jobs, but I'd feel certain that this one, which appears to be a normal O.D./Gray scheme under the white, had a normal scheme.
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: fyvsix on October 25, 2009, 10:09:55 PM
My understanding was that the 56th got hold of RAF paint for their various camo jobs. I can't remember where I read it though.
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: AWwrgwy on October 25, 2009, 10:46:02 PM
Now I stand at a delima, many book authors suggest that "Ole Cock" would have been grey and dark grey with a blue underside.  Yet most the of the 8AF had a metal finish on the underside.  Not sure which is correct and the right direction to go. :headscratch: :(

The "Ole Cock" we have in game now is as you described as are the Osprey Publishing profiles I've seen.


wrongway
Title: Re: P-47D "Ole Cock" Winter Camo Project
Post by: bravoa8 on October 25, 2009, 11:10:44 PM
I think all of them look good. :)