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Title: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: Clone155 on October 23, 2009, 07:01:53 PM
I have no idea weather this has been wished for or not, but just hear me out.

Do you have thousands of bomber perk points and nothing to spend them on? Well why don't we create a way to add more bomber drones!

Now I'm not talking about your 2 regular drones, I'm talking about and extra drone for lets say 20 perks. This way we can have a flight of lets say six bombers (up to 10) for 60 perks, but the catch is, the extra drones do not drop bombs, they are only there for escort, and will shoot wherever you shoot. The drones won't drop with your regular 3 bombers because it would be too easy to kill HQs.

Same rules apply with the extra drones, if they get to far away they blow up, and you lose your perks if they die.

So what do you think?
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: trotter on October 23, 2009, 07:16:18 PM
I like the idea.

The formations would have to change in shape though, as if we keep the current triangle formation and extend it to, say, 10 drones, there comes a point of diminishing returns. Attacking the tail end charlies will leave the attacker far removed from the bulk of the drones, thus rendering the idea moot.

A box formation would be needed, all extra drones stacked.

I think this idea definitely has merit, but coding new formations may not be something HTC has time for right now.
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: FYB on October 23, 2009, 10:41:11 PM
Sorry, but it's useless. Drones never fire in your direct gun sight, always angled crossing. You'd have a giant burden trying to make a turn if you have all those unnecessary bombers.
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: Clone155 on October 23, 2009, 10:50:33 PM
Sorry, but it's useless. Drones never fire in your direct gun sight, always angled crossing. You'd have a giant burden trying to make a turn if you have all those unnecessary bombers.

I don't think that you would lose any drones when doing a nice easy turn like you have to now with 2 drones.

You are right about the guns, and it should be that way. It starts to get "gamey" when you can hit a plane with 50 guns (tail, top, and side, with 10 b-17s), but imagine what it looks like to see 50 guns shooting in your direction. Also I like to switch which plane I shoot from. If you had a box formation with 10 planes, you have 10 different vantage points on an attacking fighter that has no idea which bomber you are in.
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: Spikes on October 23, 2009, 11:12:07 PM
Or everyone should learn how to fly 234s....huh? huh? :D
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: jay on October 24, 2009, 01:07:18 AM
so basicly giving a single plane 10 kills?
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: Clone155 on October 24, 2009, 01:30:13 AM
so basicly giving a single plane 10 kills?

If he manages to, yeah. But remember, that's 140 perks, so i doubt the pilot will go silently in the night, or without escourt.
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: Rich46yo on October 24, 2009, 04:24:56 AM
Almost all of us have untold thousands of bomber perks. Even worse, none of us even care about having them.

The only perk bomber is the 234 and very few care about being able to fly that. So here I sit envisioning clouds of extra Lancs descending on CV groups. Most of all when someone is pissed off its ack shot down their favorite fighter.

And bomb and bailing? It will look like a mass cicada die off as all the bombers fall from the air after dumping their 14 thousand lbs X 20 onto a town.

Nope! The only sound method to get people to use their bomber perks is to introduce new perked bombers. Adding drones is a suggestion thats better then most but its still not the answer. Allowing a player with 20,000 bomber perks to upp 30 Lancs to bomb a CV would only increase the gaminess factor.
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: cobia38 on October 24, 2009, 06:03:58 AM

  if you set the price at about  1k perks then it would be reasonable   :bolt:
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: stroker71 on October 24, 2009, 06:35:21 AM
Any time you have more than 1 plane per 1 player it should cost perks.  I like that idea of adding bombers to a formation but you shouldn't get them for free...any of them.  And I am not talking alot of perks something like 10-15 perks per plane up to 6.  Or better yet perk bombs themselves on fighters too 500# and larger.  If it's classified as a bomber/attack  plane that doesn't apply.

DuHasst

PS this has been brought up before in the wishlist.
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: Bronk on October 24, 2009, 06:43:59 AM
I say perk the 2 drones we have now.  What? Two do overs isn't enough?
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: OOZ662 on October 24, 2009, 08:05:49 AM
Been asked for a few times in the past. I'm happy with the current system, but if a change HAD to be made, I'd say perk the current formations.
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: Yossarian on October 24, 2009, 12:58:25 PM
It's a good idea, but I can't see it working.  I'd guess that if it were implemented, HTC would have to up the hardness of objects like the HQ, CVs, hangars etc. to compensate for the added destructive potential.

Alternatively, we could just get an A-26  :D
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: SmokinLoon on October 25, 2009, 09:54:17 AM
Bomber perk points are EASY to earn, and likewise should be utilized a bit more.  Make bomber use a bit more serious, no more bomb-n-bail BS unless you're willing to throw away perks.

I've always believed that due to the offensive capability of certain bombers, there should be a slight perk on them regardless.  The three main factors when scoring a bomber perk wise, at least imo, should be offensive capability, flight performance, defensive capability/survivability.  The Lancs can carry far more than anything else, but is one of the worst climbers when fully loaded.  The B17 is not the biggest guy on the block, but it can soak up damage, deliver enough ord to wipe out 6 hangers, have a very favorable flight performance, and still bring a healthy dose of defensive firepower for defense.  On the other end of the spectrum, the Boston III only carries 2k ord and has no defensive capability to really make mention of, but yet it climbs like a banshee and has a level flight speed of 335 mph at 12k.  Since the bombers big play in the sim/game is its offensive punch, use that as its biggest measuring stick.         

This is just an idea for a starting point, not an absolute suggestion (perk points = per plane):

Lancs = 6
B24's = 5
B17's = 4
B26's = 2

Of course, most of us know the Ju88 can carry more weight of ordnance, but really only 4/550kg is note worthy of an offensive strike.  The 20/50kg bombs are good for raking a field of OBJ, and not of hangers or SB's, etc.  Speed/climb is lacking in a big way, too.  Add in the rather Hail Mary of a defensive package, and the Ju88 is barely just below the radar in needing to get perked, imo. 

Oh, and the Ar234's are best kept where they are at, imo.  Their offensive punch is veyr misleading.  It takes a very long time for the speed of it to stabilize, and its 3/550kg (x3) of ord is enough to take out 3 hangers, it is not the most user friendly bomber out there.  It is fast, and that is its best attribute, imo.   
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: mussie on October 25, 2009, 01:21:13 PM
Or everyone should learn how to fly 234s....huh? huh? :D

Ahhh the 234 my favorite plane..... kill DAR at three bases and then slame the Ratos on to play tag with the LA-7's that come after you.....
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: FYB on October 25, 2009, 02:29:55 PM
Ahhh the 234 my favorite plane..... kill DAR at three bases and then slame the Ratos on to play tag with the LA-7's that come after you.....
I like to slow down enough so that they have to line up exactly behind the tail so i can let rip the 20mm's. It's risky though; but fun otherwise.  :D
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: guncrasher on October 25, 2009, 11:00:15 PM
guys, you really should think before you type.  You really want 999 to have more drones  :furious?  as it is we can't kill him and he only has 3 planes in his formation, its the same as giving DR7 a bigger tank  :headscratch:. 

semp
Title: Re: A new way to spend your bomber perkies!
Post by: hammer on October 26, 2009, 07:22:29 AM
Any time you have more than 1 plane per 1 player it should cost perks.  I like that idea of adding bombers to a formation but you shouldn't get them for free...any of them....

Agree 100%.